I'm As Mad As Hell, And I'm Not Going To Take This Anymore!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by justbondage

Visa and Mastercard are making too much money to pull out, and even if they did find out (I am almost 100% certain they already know) unless it is illegal activity, they have far bigger things to be worrying about.

Visa proved a long time ago what it thinks about the adult industry and its willingness to say, "fuck you and your money and the headaches you've created." We'd be fucked without Visa - Visa would be fine without us.

[justbondage]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Visa proved a long time ago what it thinks about the adult industry and its willingness to say, "fuck you and your money and the headaches you've created." We'd be fucked without Visa - Visa would be fine without us.

Why, what did they do?

[Mr. Blue]

Funny when Toby posted this on another forum I asked if he got the Link List guys opinion on it. I figured you guys would have a lot more piss and vinegar then TGP guys and sure enough...lol

Originally Posted by bluemoney

My take! There is a line between “suggestive selling” and “sneaky selling”

blueeee, lol, it's not exactly an ideal scientific experiment you set up there. What I mean to say is if my father brought me to a porn page and asked me to signup I'd start questioning what the hell he was up to and I'd be expecting a behind the head. So I'm pretty sure he was more observant then he'd be in a real situation:

Real situation, hand on dick, trying to join quickly while typing with one hand. There's a good chance you might not notice pre-checked cross sales below the submit button, especially if he's a cheapskate and buying a trial. If someone is buying a trial, it essentially means they want something on the cheap, not an extra $80 in passes. That guy will never buy another membership after that experience.

With all that said though, I do support Toby, but at the same time realize the inevitability of the situation. Sponsors do this because they’re catering to what some affiliates want and they have to keep up with the Joneses. I personally think pre-checked cross sales below the submit is shady as shit, it hurts the business, but it just gets added onto the very long list of things that hurt the industry. I mean when you see a site like XNXX, a once fine traffic source, turning into a tube site giving away 30 minute videos…umm…yeah, you can see as an industry we don’t always do what’s best in preserving what we have.