What's the point of opening your own pay site?

[papagmp]

If you don't have the $750 for VISA, how the hell you gonna pay for the content, hosting, legal, etc.....

And since the majority of my members pay with VISA, it's a must - not an option.

We spend a few grand every month on "talent", a decent chunk on production costs (camera, editing, etc..) a few hundred on hosting, and that leaves precious little (nothing) for me.

Starting your own paysite is no cheap undertaking - I'm still on the investing phase of a 5-year business plan but things are on track and we expect to start seeing a return in the next few month. My total investment is well into the five-figures (closer to six) so it may take a while for me to see a full return on the investment but I'm in this for the long run not the weekly paycheck.

[Beaver Bob]

yea, if you can't afford the $750, you shouldn't even think of opening a paysite.

[horndog]

Originally Posted by papagmp

Starting your own paysite is no cheap undertaking - I'm still on the investing phase of a 5-year business plan but things are on track and we expect to start seeing a return in the next few month. My total investment is well into the five-figures (closer to six) so it may take a while for me to see a full return on the investment but I'm in this for the long run not the weekly paycheck.

How much money does it actually take to get a paysite started and up and running? If it cost $750 just for the Visa fee how much could someone end up spending on legal advice, camera equipment, modeling fees, and other unforeseen expenses? I'm just curious?


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[Star Man]

Originally Posted by horndog

How much money does it actually take to get a paysite started and up and running? If it cost $750 just for the Visa fee how much could someone end up spending on legal advice, camera equipment, modeling fees, and other unforeseen expenses? I'm just curious?

I'm just guessing but if your doing gonzo/reality type stuff and your doing the fucking,directing,and editing on your own I bet it would be around 10 grand.Am I close papagmp ?

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by horndog

How much money does it actually take to get a paysite started and up and running? If it cost $750 just for the Visa fee how much could someone end up spending on legal advice, camera equipment, modeling fees, and other unforeseen expenses? I'm just curious?

Originally Posted by Star Man

I'm just guessing but if your doing gonzo/reality type stuff and your doing the fucking,directing,and editing on your own I bet it would be around 10 grand.Am I close papagmp ?

There are a lot of variables - the biggest being the cost of talent.

My major cash expenses include (not in order):

Talent - over >$70K for my three sites so far (I have about 65% of our "shot" content on the sites right now.)
Recruiting - shit - can I write every trip to the titty bar off? I would gess that it's over $600.00 per month.
Legal (including 2257) - $9K
Editing - $6K (I do all the images myself and about 1/4th of the videos)
Programing - $8K (PHP database management) I do most of the HTML and graphic design)
Hosting - $300 plus per month
Photographers/Videographers - $30.00 to $150 per shoot
Testing (STD) - $150.00 per month (models pay for their their own but I have to pay for mine.
No-show - unrecoverable expenses created by models scheduling and not showing or rescheduling shoots - $200 per month on average.

Things that I do that you may have to pay for if you can't do it yourself:

Fucking Teenagers (I'll be happy to do this for you for a very reasonable fee)
Recruiting - can you really do it?
Graphic design (OK - maybe I should pay someone to do this )
Marketing - FS's galleries, banners, affiliate correspondence etc
HTML coding
Affiliate "Love"

Equipment costs:

Location - varies per shoot - I usually shoot at my home or in the woods - there is some risk involved in this in many locations.
Video Camera(s) - $4k
Still Camera(s) - $6K (including most of my lenses)
Video Lighting - $1.5K
Studio Lighting - $2K
Misc - tripods, light stands, soft boxes, reflectors, etc. $2K
Editing Software - Sony Vegas for three machines 1K
Computer(s) - we use four - 2.5K (mine was a lot more but it's older and not worth much now)

I had some of the equipment before I started into adult - and it's sure as hell possible to get by with less but it ain't the equipment costs that will make or break you.

Do the math and figure out how many memberships you have to sell in a month with 60% going to the affiliates and an additional chunk going to your processor - then look to see if you're already selling that many memberships...




Every time I hear affiliates wining about how "filthy rich" program owners are - I have to laugh.....

[Star Man]

I didn't want to be rude and ask for specifics but I sure am glad you broke it down like this.Great Post papagmp!