AFF (A possibly productive thread)

[Tekster]

I have to agree with PG on this, not that like AFF but what anybody does on their own site is their business, I have my own sites with my own rules and if you don't like it well, there is a lot out there to chose from.

Second point I don't think the owner of Smut Gremlins ever came around to say anything about AFF and then promote them, at least not that I remember.

MHO - Not that I know anything.

[hashbury]

For everything greenie has to say about AFF its not banned a LOR. Some people have been promoting AFF for years and making good cash. If they didnt see a drop in sales when zango hit, Why would they stop promoting them. When I first came to this board, I was promoting AFF and making very good cash for a newbie. But I did find it rather hard to get link trades and make friends here while promoting them. So I stopped promoting them.
Just my measily 2 cents

[Bobc01]

I hate AFF with a passion, all the shit they're associated with like viruses, trojans and especially spam that they obviously know about but again, don't give a fuck.

As far as promoting on illegal tube sites, fling do the same and many webmasters on here promote those too.

For me it's upto an individual to promote who they like whether i like the sponsor or not, if they're making money and happy then it's upto them and nothing to do with me.

[Twiceshy]

I was about to post the same thing Tek

[Greenguy]

I'd also like to say that every time I see Emmy, which is rather often, I bash her by asking if she's still doing business with AFF

[WildChyld]

You are all perverts
Like you needed me to tell you that.

I can promise you this much. If anyone has problems with them while I am working here I'll do what I can to fix it. Thats all I can do.

I've worked with companies before that had some questionable shady past dealings. A certain bay area kinky site in particular and before I left I was able to make a few changes there that stuck including insuring the models safety through insurance, training & safety measures that didn't exist before I got there.

Who knows. Maybe I'll get frustrated and bail after a week. Maybe not. Either way you'll get the inside scoop.

[Bobc01]

Can yer kick LARS in the bollocks? or is that what keeps his ears apart.

[WildChyld]

i haven't even seen Lars.
I think they make him hang out in a very quiet room far, far away from me

[shunga]

Have you stopped the fake profile ads on the tube sites?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by shunga

Have you stopped the fake profile ads on the tube sites?

Of course not. Stolen content/copyright infringement means NOTHING to AFF.

[WildChyld]

I don't do ad buys but I have the ad list in front of me and I don't see anything like that. I work only with business development, affiliates & partners.

I know that they do buy on tube sites (mainly to counter sexsearch's buys) but the banners they all just look like the other friend finder banners. I hate the tube sites but let's face it, ff is a big massive business. They only care about the financial and legal sides of things, which is one of the reasons they wanted me on board, I am better at keeping people happy.

You should see how strict they are on what I can make creatives out of. It's super corporate in the way things are done. They are all about covering their asses.
AFF being corporate & doing business with people who kind of suck. Definitely.

AFF being not trustworthy? That I haven't seen any evidence of. Trust me I'm looking.

My job isn't to do day to day work on accounts but I can take them on if I choose to.
If anyone has accounts they want me to look into or SPECIFIC complaints they think will change my stance I'd be more than welcome to look into them. I can also take on an account if you'd just rather have it optimized better or want me to keep an eye on things for you. Just catch me at hpowers@ffn.com.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by WildChyld

...I know that they do buy on tube sites (mainly to counter sexsearch's buys)...

That's not a legit reason for buying ads on a site! And, if you're saying it is, that means that AFF would buy ads on CP, beasty & r4pe sites if Sex Search did first.

[LeRoy]

off topic but I will say that my previous post is uncalled for.

I apologize for lashing out about my thoughts on other members domains domain . I have no excuse

Emerald I hope you will find it your heart to forgive me

On another note. I will gladly fight the fight with you wildchild. Lets do this

PM me for any additional help that is needed . With pay of course

[WildChyld]

I'm not saying thats the decision I would have made Greenie.
Its just how often are at larger companies. They make decisions based upon the bottom line. You should see the insane amounts of money people make promoting AFF.

I must say that it is nice being able to go home at the end of the day and not care what happens at a company over the weekend. Usually I get so emotionally invested in the places that I work that it totally eats my brain even on my days off.

This weekend I played rockband2, worked on my novel & started looking into my nonprofit without even the slightest concern over work. That in itself is a first for me.

[shunga]

Not too long ago your fake profile ads were all over tubes. Now I see Fling ads, which might well be pulling the same geo targetting trick.

[MadCat]

Just because AFF is a larger company doesn't mean they have to completely abandon their morals or ethics -- I can point out many a larger corporation that will still have some idea of what's right and what's wrong.

The fake ads: grey area. Fake ads on tube sites: wrong. Anything that deals with essentially advertising on sites that have illegal content: wrong.

From the adult webmaster point of view that one seems fair. If AFF doesn't want to go that route, then I can't blame anyone for going off at them the way they have been in the past few years.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by WildChyld

...You should see the insane amounts of money people make promoting AFF...

So because other scumbags do it - that makes it ok?

YOU are too good to be associated with AFF. I feel really bad that you felt the need or had to take a job with them, because I know you are a good & decent person.

You're not going to solve any problems around here - AFF has chosen to do business in an uber greedy fashion & most of us think that's wrong.

[Greenguy]

You are the lipstick on the pig that is AFF.

Timely

[WildChyld]

ZOMG ... I don't wanna be lipstick

[Bobc01]

Wildchyld, if there's any good you can do, you could atleast cut don't on their spammers..
all-women-dates.com/mainindex.html

[BuZzZ]

cuttttttt the b

[WildChyld]

Bob.
All Im getting is a redirect.
If you have a piece of spam send it to me and I can have them banned.

[Bobc01]

I deleted it unfortunately but the same loser is spamming google groups if that's against the TOS...

groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.motorcycles.trailriding/browse_thread/thread/595bd55d33a5f250/4530413e73e74e3c

[WildChyld]

I'll take care of it

[Bobc01]

Originally Posted by WildChyld

I'll take care of it

That arsehole is still active so i take it you didn't take care of it.

I guess i must be dumb enough to think they would.