I need a site critiqued

[LD]

I like the idea of a real warning page too, but I feel I am putting myself at a disadvantage it I use one. People will just go to the next site it they don't see porn immediately.

[Kisa]

Originally Posted by LusciousDelight

I like the idea of a real warning page too, but I feel I am putting myself at a disadvantage it I use one. People will just go to the next site it they don't see porn immediately.

Yeah- this is a tough one isn't it... I agree with what UW said on another thread that it will actually be the porn industry demanding that there be laws requiring warning pages and memberships! The tubesites have made it so you pretty much have to have something on that first page.... MySpace has made it so we must all offer something straight up front. It's ridiculous. I don't ever want to hear some faux moral authority squawking about porn when their own kids are stripping down and posting their own photos all over social networks. At least the porn industry must adhere to 2257. Where's MySpace's 2257?

Anyway, as far as the freesites go, (this is for Dollpix) the surfers going to the link lists seem to understand the format so I don't think it's an issue. Now this is from one newbie to another. You probably actually know much more about the industry than I do but I'll just give you my newb advice. I was so confused about the structure and format of a freesite. Like you, I would look at what was out there and it didn't seem to jive with what I was being told. In addition, my crappy non-freesite formatted pages were actually being accepted on some sites which just confused me even further. But thanks to some very patient people on this board, I finally figured it out

I really recommend doing what I did which is to go as simple simple simple as possible. Many of the freesites that seem to push the rules boundary etc, could very well be long-term submitters who have earned 'exceptions' from certain sites, etc. I don't know but it doesn't really matter what they do. It only matters what we as newbies must do to get listed. Remember, we are the lowest on the totem pole so like anything else, we just have to do what we have to do to earn spot.

So I offer you the basic freesite formula I'm currently following and it may seem too simple or even insulting to your intellect heh But it's what I had to do to get past my confusion:

1. Warning Page with:
a:Header (freesite name w/ description)
b:One banner or ad that is not explicit.
c: your list of recips
d: your warning text
e: your enter button (linking to your main freesite page)
f: your 2257

2. Main page
a: Header again
b: another banner or ad of some sort
c: your gallery entrance buttons (gallery one gallery two, etc)
you can put brief descriptions of each gallery or tm's
d: one more ad if you so desire

3. & 4. Your Gallery Pages
a. These are pretty straight forward. This is obviously where your content goes, either pics or movies. And it appears that most sites do not want you putting anymore than two links to sponsors on this page. I just put one. Also, most sites have pretty standard requirements for the movie clips. Most want a minimum of 20 second clips with no less than 3 clips per gallery. And no long trailer intros at the beginning or end of the clips. I have a sponsor who does that and I hate it because no one wants to see that. They're only hurting themselves with that crap. So just go by the rule of how much content is actually visible. If it's 8 seconds of content and 12 seconds of flash logos scrolling in and out, then it's not okay. I'm very new to this world but not new to the game of marketing and I've never in my career had a focus group go, 'gee, seeing all those flashing banners and swirling logos really made me want the product!' Nope. The product sells the product. Don't try to trick the consumer. It only pisses them off. (not saying you are.... just speaking in generalities)

Just build what you would want to look at within the context of the rules-

So-not sure what it's worth but that's my newbie advice. Hope at least some of it was helpful

[Licker4U]

Originally Posted by Kisa

3. & 4. Your Gallery Pages
a. These are pretty straight forward. This is obviously where your content goes, either pics or movies. And it appears that most sites do not want you putting anymore than two links to sponsors on this page. I just put one.

Most sites? I've been building free sites for seven years and have never run into that. If I did back in the day they didn't get on my submit list. In the rules at the 65+ link lists I submit to (27 of the "big boys" and most from here at the board) it says no more than three outgoing sponor links/page. I only get about 5% of my sales from gallery pages but if I'm allowed three/page, that's what I'm putting on my pages.

Just my .02

[Kisa]

Originally Posted by Licker4U

Most sites? I've been building free sites for seven years and have never run into that. If I did back in the day they didn't get on my submit list. In the rules at the 65+ link lists I submit to (27 of the "big boys" and most from here at the board) it says no more than three outgoing sponor links/page. I only get about 5% of my sales from gallery pages but if I'm allowed three/page, that's what I'm putting on my pages.

Just my .02

It's probably easier for you since you've been doing it for so long. If there is one site that has a specific rule, then you're probably familiar. For me, I'm so new and was kind of all over the map in my understanding so my advice to Dollpix was to just go uber-simple at first as this approach is helping me. Maybe I wasn't clear but basically, my approach is to start with nothing and then slowly add to it once submitting becomes normal and comfortable with few mistakes. It doesn't really matter how many ads or links are on my freesite if no one is accepting them That's really my only point. Dollpix has been struggling with getting her new freesites accepted as was I, so I thought starting out basic was an effective approach but I'm sure it's not the only or best one... just mine

I am fascinated by your and Fonzi's stats concerning sales on the first two pages.... thanks for that! Very helpful-