is there any way to tell if one of your sites has been penalized

[DangerDave]

Tommy,

... do a site:yourdomain.com search to see if your site is truly "removed" from Google..

Then if it is.. look at doing a re-inclusion request..

Info here - http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=35843

Mat Cutts view here - http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reincl...request-howto/



DD

[Bill]

Being truly removed isn't all that common tho.

Discovering you've dropped into the netherworld of "below the first hundred or coupla hundred results" is much more common.

Which feels like a penalty.

[Tommy]

Originally Posted by Bill

Being truly removed isn't all that common tho.

Discovering you've dropped into the netherworld of "below the first hundred or coupla hundred results" is much more common.

Which feels like a penalty.

thats what happened :-)

its a little fake tgp, in fact most of my fake tgps went south in google

the webmaster tools thingy shows it was number 6 for the keyword in January but nows its on page 28

thanks for the info Dave :-)

[Bill]

Used to be, things like this would happen, but then you would come back.

Nowadays, coming back from the netherworld seems less common, particularly for porn sites.

Why? Who the fuck knows, really. I got my theories, and they are all probably wrong.

I'd say the thing most likely to pull it up from the bottom are some true oneway links from 'outside' - from either someone who hasn't been pushed down, and with whom you do not already trade, or links from the sites that are in the "authority circle" - which is basically the famous non-adult-BUSINESS sites.

But true oneway links from almost anywhere outside have a chance at least of making it bounce up.

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Still, if it just happened, it's usually too early to tell that it WON'T bounce back up on it's own.

Which puts one in a catch22. You could wait, and maybe it bounces up on its own with some future update. Or try to fix it, and maybe make it worse, or use up resources that you'll wish you had later.