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Old 2009-03-09, 05:50 PM   #1
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Now there's a message meant to inspire every affiliate to choose the no console option. Or maybe it's going to be another pop-under along with that goddamn feeds one we already get when we make the mistake of viewing our TopBucks' stats. Please find more ways to disrespect me. I'm unworthy of professional honesty and treatment.
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Old 2009-03-09, 07:59 PM   #2
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Now there's a message meant to inspire every affiliate to choose the no console option. Or maybe it's going to be another pop-under along with that goddamn feeds one we already get when we make the mistake of viewing our TopBucks' stats. Please find more ways to disrespect me. I'm unworthy of professional honesty and treatment.
Hi Useless Warrior,

At TopBucks we always appreciate feedback whether positive or negative. We need to know how to make things better. In regards to the pop-under on TopBucks.com, yes it is annoying and we had that removed. We had that up there to promote our leased feeds that many of our webmasters and affiliate programs utilize.

As for the consoles on our program. We have them, we will always have them and that's why we offer a non-console program as well as a handsome revshare option that has a no-console option.

We can't make everyone happy and we try. So we had the one on TB removed and there isn't much of an option to remove the ones from our paysites.

If you have any other feedback to give, we are open to hearing it.
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Old 2009-03-09, 09:59 PM   #3
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Do you folks realize that when webmasters see the console/no console options, we often assume that the consoles must be in-network consoles/last ditch efforts to make the sale? In other words, we quite fairly assume that you are popping those annoying buggers on your tours in order to make us money, not steal the sale away from us. I mean, why would we voluntarily send traffic to a site that is deliberately working against our own best interests? The sole reason for this confusion is that sponsors, such as TopBucks, never explain what the purpose of their consoles are.

By the way, I've complained about the feeds pop-under before and it was removed then too -- very briefly. It'll be back.

Also, in my opinion, it's sleazy to advertise such a thing on a webmaster board. Why not whore for such things at the conventions when all the sponsor reps are chatting amongst themselves rather than networking with affiliate webmasters?
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Old 2009-03-09, 11:05 PM   #4
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Do you folks realize that when webmasters see the console/no console options, we often assume that the consoles must be in-network consoles/last ditch efforts to make the sale? In other words, we quite fairly assume that you are popping those annoying buggers on your tours in order to make us money, not steal the sale away from us. I mean, why would we voluntarily send traffic to a site that is deliberately working against our own best interests? The sole reason for this confusion is that sponsors, such as TopBucks, never explain what the purpose of their consoles are.

By the way, I've complained about the feeds pop-under before and it was removed then too -- very briefly. It'll be back.

Also, in my opinion, it's sleazy to advertise such a thing on a webmaster board. Why not whore for such things at the conventions when all the sponsor reps are chatting amongst themselves rather than networking with affiliate webmasters?
So you just have a problem with non-in network exits and it stealing your money, gotcha.

The pop-under won't be back and posting about an exit opening is only sleazy to you because you don't believe in how we do our exits.

You in WNY too? The cold weather can make one grumpy. : )
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Old 2009-03-11, 12:58 AM   #5
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...The pop-under won't be back and posting about an exit opening is only sleazy to you because you don't believe in how we do our exits...
If you 2 paid attention to the board you spam, you'd know that this board is full of very honest webmasters that, for the most part, don't use or endorse consoles/popups.

So his posts are not based on anything other than what most of us here on the board feel & believe.

PS - I'm in WNY - he's in Central NY
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Old 2009-03-12, 11:51 AM   #6
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Money over morals ...
Who the fuck are you to say that to anyone, especially while considering the SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD? You came here to advertise the fact that TopBucks steals sales from their affiliates via consoles and you're pulling the money over morals card on someone else. Amazing.

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So you just have a problem with non-in network exits and it stealing your money, gotcha.
How many webmasters do you think would use console links if they knew that the consoles were competing with them for the sale? Are you really surprised that anyone would be aggravated by having their potential sales stolen by the sponsor they are attempting to promote? You couldn't possibly be that ignorant.

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The pop-under won't be back and posting about an exit opening is only sleazy to you because you don't believe in how we do our exits.
It's sleazy because you are waving a sales stealing device in front of your affiliates and basically saying, "if you don't like it, go screw." I'm shocked that your every post isn't, "let them eat cake."

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You in WNY too? The cold weather can make one grumpy. : )
I'm grumpy because I'm tired of dealing with incompetent reps who can't see things from the point-of-view of the affiliate webmaster.

FYI: With few exceptions, I've always been a revshare/no console guy.
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