SpaCash worth a try?

[pelcito]

Ok,

We have been looking at this issue. Before posting here i wanted to talk with the affected affiliate. That's why the reply took a little.

1. Regarding the referrals that he claim we found that they were not paid at $150 because it wasn't specified on the link he sent the sales at. There are two options fee=flat and fee=commission. By default even if you don't put it is commission (8% commission) and that is what he gets. If the link was promoted with the fee=flat those $300 would appear. Those options are available at the SPAcash page where you get the links and banners for referrals.

2. About the sales is about the same situation. He made 117 trials but not all of them converted to PPS. SPAcash as many affiliate programs have a policy of getting the new member at least 4 hours to consider him a trial. To make it clear: a PPS sale is considered so after a member stays 4 hours and didn't cancel it. This is now new and something well-known for many of you.

When tony told him he got 117 trials he thought that he owe him the other part. But actually wasn't the case. Other programs would never tell you the real trials you actually made.

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Then we can discuss and talk about if the program was or not converting at that time. That's another talk and sure not the same that those "stealing" claims i read on the thread.

In any case we never took the money of anybody here.

Cheers!

[LD]

Originally Posted by pelcito

SPAcash as many affiliate programs have a policy of getting the new member at least 4 hours to consider him a trial. To make it clear: a PPS sale is considered so after a member stays 4 hours and didn't cancel it. This is now new and something well-known for many of you.



Cheers!

I'm curious, is this standard? Do other sponsors do this?

[HowlingWulf]

Originally Posted by LusciousDelight

I'm curious, is this standard? Do other sponsors do this?

First I've heard of it...

So if a surfer signs up for a trial, checks out the members area, decides to upsell to site X and cancel the trial within 4 hours, the sponsor makes money and the affiliate makes 0?

[pelcito]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

First I've heard of it...

So if a surfer signs up for a trial, checks out the members area, decides to upsell to site X and cancel the trial within 4 hours, the sponsor makes money and the affiliate makes 0?

It deppends if converts or not.

If you want a piece of every time a surfer spend money, the best is to promote rev share. PPS is a method to get fast money and create a balance between the sponsor and the affiliate.

[CrazySy]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

First I've heard of it...

So if a surfer signs up for a trial, checks out the members area, decides to upsell to site X and cancel the trial within 4 hours, the sponsor makes money and the affiliate makes 0?

Or, they join and find out the only thing in the members area is nothing but shitty content!


Yes, Pel and I had a chat on icq and as I mentioned, I am going to leave the webmaster referral issue alone as it was explained to me.

A few of the issues we talked about:

1- In his own words, Pel says he has made "dozens million dollars"

And I say, so did Bernie Madoff!

2- Pel told me I am accusing his company and he also told me I'm using extortion to get money from him.

Now, you can use all those legal words as much as you wish. They are neither scaring me, nor intimidating me and as you know, you can always take legal route and we can have it settled in the court of law.


3- He thinks he is not responsible for his employees action, and I think that's a shitty business. You hire them to represent your company and promote your product & services, and you are responsible for their action.

Now, I am going to skip the rest of what we talked about and jump into the numbers I was talking about.

They claim that all the sales I was not credited for were trials and didn't convert to monthly membership (which is a Pay Per Active program and not PPS), however, all this time, I have had issue figuring the following:

jan- 6 transactions, pps, all canceled with in trial
Why did I get paid for 5 if all 6 canceled?

feb- 21 tranactions, pps, 18 canceled within trial
Why did I get paid for 13 if 18 canceled?

march- 13 transactions,pps, 8 canceled within trial
Why did I get paid for 7 if 8 canceled?

april- 16 transactons, pps, 10 canceled within trial
I got paid for 6

may- 26 transactions, pps, 18 canceled within trial
Why did I get paid for 10 if 18 canceled?

june- 12 transactions, pps, 6 canceled within trial
I got paid for 3, what happened to the other 3 that didn't cancel?

july 15 transactions, pps, 10 canceled within trial
I got paid for 4, what happened to the other sale that didn't cancel?

aug- 8 tranactions, pps, 6 canceled within trial
Why did I get paid for 4 if 6 canceled?

I have asked a few of the reps including that useless Gerard, did all these cancel within 4 hours? and the answer was "We can not disclose those information" (actually Gerard didn't even fuckin' bother to reply to me). Honest people tell the truth while the dishonest ones hide it.

Nobody answered me when these questions were asked and numbers don't match. I don't trust SpaCash and I stand by everything I have said in the past and will continue to share my experience with anyone who asks about that program.

Time to get back to work now