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Old 2009-06-17, 10:56 AM   #1
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What the heck? Is this English, or am I dense?

I'm sorry for being so green here.............. but, I don't understand the whole fraud thing? I know there are webmasters that don't accept galleries, links, etc, due to cheaters............... but, I don't really understand how the cheating happens? Or how the fraud happens? WHAT?

After reading this, I'm even more confused.

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I am not positive but fraud for example he is talking about is fraud against affiliate programs.

So a webmaster signs up and uses stolen credit cards and epassporte as payout (or wire) but not check as it takes too long to receive and cash. With the stolen credit cards they sign up to PPS sites using their OWN affiliate code and make $500 (or whatever) and get the epassporte payout before the charge back or credit is processed by the credit card companies to the affiliate program itself.

That is one type of fraud run by webmasters.
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Old 2009-06-17, 11:10 AM   #2
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I am not positive but fraud for example he is talking about is fraud against affiliate programs.

So a webmaster signs up and uses stolen credit cards and epassporte as payout (or wire) but not check as it takes too long to receive and cash. With the stolen credit cards they sign up to PPS sites using their OWN affiliate code and make $500 (or whatever) and get the epassporte payout before the charge back or credit is processed by the credit card companies to the affiliate program itself.

That is one type of fraud run by webmasters.
This is the exact type of fraud we were seeing, But we only pay by check so it was easy to catch.
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Old 2009-06-17, 04:44 PM   #3
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I am not positive but fraud for example he is talking about is fraud against affiliate programs.

So a webmaster signs up and uses stolen credit cards and epassporte as payout (or wire) but not check as it takes too long to receive and cash. With the stolen credit cards they sign up to PPS sites using their OWN affiliate code and make $500 (or whatever) and get the epassporte payout before the charge back or credit is processed by the credit card companies to the affiliate program itself.

That is one type of fraud run by webmasters.
This is nothing new though. Fraudsters have been scamming this way for years. Its part of the reason many programs don't pay via epassporte anymore or went invite.

Is there more to the original post then just that? I have to admit I am having a hard time deciphering it.
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Old 2009-06-17, 05:07 PM   #4
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Same here.
I get bits and pieces, but would really like a good english translation.
We just caught a few frauders the other day. Our damage was min though.
good jobs

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I am not positive but fraud for example he is talking about is fraud against affiliate programs.

So a webmaster signs up and uses stolen credit cards and epassporte as payout (or wire) but not check as it takes too long to receive and cash. With the stolen credit cards they sign up to PPS sites using their OWN affiliate code and make $500 (or whatever) and get the epassporte payout before the charge back or credit is processed by the credit card companies to the affiliate program itself.

That is one type of fraud run by webmasters.
Yes
have a lot frauders.cheat about stolen card or a lot ,....
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This is the exact type of fraud we were seeing, But we only pay by check so it was easy to catch.
Good Idea,But If you can know all frauders used stolencard ,
if you can learn methods of operation of frauders you can pay with different methods

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Wow! How calculated! I would have never thought of something like that. How difficult is it to send these guys to jail?
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very difficult,only banned all frauders

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This is nothing new though. Fraudsters have been scamming this way for years. Its part of the reason many programs don't pay via epassporte anymore or went invite.


Is there more to the original post then just that? I have to admit I am having a hard time deciphering it.
Good Idea!
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