New Link O'Rama Rules

[TinCan]

Originally posted by Cleo
I find using my Analog stats for daily stats and AWStats for everything else gives me far more info then I ever got from any of the free counters.

Damn well I guess Im going to have to start learning how to use my server stats too...I have a question though...I see an Analog and an AWStats option on my server stats too...Can anyone tell me what is the difference between the two?? And to switch back and forth between the 2 options could take up to 24 hrs?? WTF?? Anyone wanna school me on this??? Thanks.

[xfalmp]

Originally posted by Cleo
Personally I would love it if someone wrote a bit of code to remove PayCounter from all of my pages. Between all my domains I have PayCounter code on probably about one million or so pages. I stopped using them close to a year ago now I think.

http://www.editplus.com/

I really like this program, it's like a Notepad improved. It'll let you open hundreds of files at once and search/replace all the opened files. The string being searched can have regular expressions, so it should do exactly what you want. I'd give it a try... if you don't know about regular expressions, leave me a PM and I'd be more than happy to help you with it.

This is not a offfer for Cleo specifically, anyone can feel free to PM me if needed.

[Cleo]

If I had to choose I would go with AWStats.

Much better reports and much nicer to use.

Analog stats looks like something from an old terminal interface that only a geek could love.

[JanTM]

I have AWstats on my server as well. But is there a way to:

1. Have it update automatically every day?
2. Have information from all domains at one place (like Paycounter)

I kind of like being able to see all my domains at once. As it is now I have to go to a specific URL on each domain and manually update the AWStats every time I want to see what is going on... and that is only on that domain. Then I have to do the same thing on all my domains.

[Cleo]

Not cheap but looks like all that and even better than sliced bread.
http://www.x3scripts.com/x3tracker.html?

[JanTM]

Hehe... OK I have to admit it. What I had in mind was a lot closer to "free" than it was to "$750"

[ladydesigner]

Does anyone know anything about this?
http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/

That's the stats that my server has. Seems ok except like other people mentioned, if you build free sites off of a domain, you can't see where the traffic's coming from to that particular site, gallery or whatever.

[MrMaryLou]

Counters we dont need no stinking counters I count checks

[stuveltje]

Counters we dont need no stinking counters I count checks

still i love all the info a counter gives me........... me go for awstats thing i think

[thrillho]

Originally posted by ladydesigner
Does anyone know anything about this?
http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/

That's the stats that my server has. Seems ok except like other people mentioned, if you build free sites off of a domain, you can't see where the traffic's coming from to that particular site, gallery or whatever.

I'm not sure if this is what you're referring to, but if you mean the list of referral url's are all from your domain, webalizer can be configured to ignore those. It will then only list url's from other domains. I emailed my host about this, and they took care of it for me.

Not long ago, I posted the url for a free program I use that analyzes downloaded log files on your pc--
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...&threadid=8497

[ladydesigner]

Thanks thrillho. I'll e-mail my host about this. :-)

[burunduk]

hi!
I have a next questions:
1) I usually make thumbs for all sets of pictures => for my future free-sites, and 2 weeks ago I made thumbs for all sets pictures which I have (600pics => 30free-sites). And now for optimization my free-sites on 800*600 I must remake all thumbs ??? or I can change only width & height in src teg for thumbs??? e.g. I have thumbs 145*217, whether I can write in src teg width=100 & height=150 ??? if all thumbs remake = this is VERY big work!..

2)With what help browser the reviewers my sites look ? if I optimized my site 800*600 & in my browser (without various panels or toolbars e.g. google, yahoo tollbars, etc.,) I see my site without scroll, but if reviewer have in his browser google toolbar or any other - he will see with scroll => and my site will be declined! pls, explain!

thanks!

[abe]

Burunduk.
1. I think making 600 thumbs would take me about 5 minutes. Are you making them manually? For the case: here you find a free thumbnail program: http://www.fookes.com/ezthumbs/index.php?1.8c
Changing the size in the scr always cost loading time.

2. I think they only care about horizontal scrolling. Vertical scrolling will not be a problem I think.

[JanTM]

Originally posted by abe
2. I think they only care about horizontal scrolling. Vertical scrolling will not be a problem I think.

Yes. Its the sideways scrolling that is a problem... not up and down.

[SlickRick]

Originally posted by Greenguy

Now, with the no counter rule - we will be going thru sites starting on July 19th (over 3 weeks from now) & sites that are currently listed & have counters will be pulled at that time.

Hey GG

Question You say your removing sites with counters on them out of your database.

What trouble would someone get if they removed your return links off the pages they may have with counters?

[stuveltje]

marker of premium sex links, was so sweet to install the awstats script thing , so me save now with stats, well untill i have removed all my counters and make the folders for all my domains, but its a nice replacement THANK YOU MARKER!!!!!

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by SlickRick
What trouble would someone get if they removed your return links off the pages they may have with counters?

None We figured that would happen so if there's a counter & no recip to me, the link will just be pulled.

[SlickRick]

Originally posted by Greenguy
None We figured that would happen so if there's a counter & no recip to me, the link will just be pulled.

I was thinking last night after I posted my question. but you would prod get to the sites with counters before I would on my end. Anyhow Ill try to pull the counters off the pages. but I doupt i'd get them all before you got to them.

[Greenguy]

No one that has counters on their sites when we go thru them will be blacklisted - the sites will just be removed.

Sorry I wasn't clear on that in my 1st post

[xfalmp]

Originally posted by thrillho
Not long ago, I posted the url for a free program I use that analyzes downloaded log files on your pc--
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...&threadid=8497

How big are the files you are analyzing? I gave it a try and I didn't have luck trying it on some big files.

[xfalmp]

Originally posted by JanTM
1. Have it update automatically every day?

I have mine on crontab.. ask your server support to add it to your crontab for you.

[thrillho]

Originally posted by xfalmp
How big are the files you are analyzing? I gave it a try and I didn't have luck trying it on some big files.

My log files are generally between 1 and 2 1/2 megabytes (in the compressed .gz form that I download--unzipped, they're probably anywhere from 15 to 40 megabytes). Depending on the size, it's taken between 10 minutes and an hour for a file to be analyzed. Xlogan's decompression function is really slow--it's a little better if you unzip it and then have Xlogan analyze it that way. But it's still really slow. The first couple of times I tried to use it, I thought it had frozen on me. But, as I said in the other thread, if I have the time to start it up and let it run while I do something else, it gives the stats for every hit, every file, every request, etc.
Also, from the download page you can get to a forum moderated by the guy who wrote the program. He'll answer questions and take suggestions.

[Greenguy]

I had to make an adjustment to the "no counter" rule:

24. No sites with 3rd party counters will be listed. Get some stats on your server.

The rule should have stated this in the 1st place - sorry for any problems this causes.

[stuveltje]

I am slowly getting inline to removing all my counters n( i have an holiday and as soon i am behind my puter my hubby and kids pull me by my hair away from it), i have (like suggested earlier in this thread) awstats i like that one too, and i have to say counters will always be a traffic leak so there is a good thing at the end of this.

[Mike@MS]

Hello, guys!
I was just told about this anti-counter thread, please let me introduce the other side. Not to promote or anything - just to clarify things.
I know these days people do worry about the malicious activities.

I'm a programmer of the masterstats.com counter, so this would be pretty technical.
We use plain and simple Javascript code for our counter, that anybody who can read - can read.
We don't use <script src=URL> - so, after you got your counter code nothing could be changed and your user will not download and/or execute nothing you are not aware of.
Looking at the code (I can send an example in case you're interested) you can see that we don't collect any "more personal" info about the user's system - or you can take my word on that. Actually we don't collect any info about the users' OS, plugins, browser type, screen resolution etc.

Right now this Javascript code is being executed about 12 mln times/day on different systems, browsers etc. - without any complains. Or if something is wrong - we fix it.

Next - the redirections. First of all, if the user clicks the MS counter image he opens a pop-up, so, he actually won't leave your page (target=_blank in the counter code). Then, our stats says that only 1-2 visitor of 1000 clicks the counter icon, which means 0.1-0.2%. They are all taken to the ranking pages of the appropriate category, so all adult/erotic sites will redirect to http://erotic.masterstats.com/

This is probably a subject to change - but webmasters will be notified as they always are in case of any changes on our side. The part of the new targeting will be the storefront - plane and simple, no any downloads, dialers or whatever was mentioned.

The counter is affiliated with Proadult.com, so you could be sure, no malicious things will ever happen.

And the last thing - it was mentioned that you can use your server logs. Sure you can. In case you have it, in case you have purchased the proper sofware, in case your server is powerfull enough to analyse the huge logs. If you have all these things you better run your own logs and have more precise data than we can ever give you, no doubt.

But if your site is hosted at some regular hoster's old busy overloaded servers you probably don't have all these things or don't want all the hustles.

Or if your servers already are busy with the regular jobs, or if you don't want to invest in customary log analysing sofware.

We keep stats plain and simple, easy to switch from site to site, easy to compare, easy to see all kinds of summaries. Right now we're preparing the new 2.2 GHz AMD64 Opteron Quad servers for this project together with the huge disk arrays. (Oops, I'm sorry, I'm actually not the hardware guy - it shows
processor : 3
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 5
model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 848
stepping : 10
cpu MHz : 2193.624
cache size : 1024 KB

I think they are in fact 2.4GHz, the latest 64bit ones). Here we have our little soapbox

Our counter plain responce time is in most cases 0.07-0.08sec (from the server in the same colocation), when it grows above 0.3s my cell rings

Here you can see a fresh example of the internal counter speed (1000 hits stats per each Apache child before the proxy stage)
[Sun Aug 1 19:49:45 2004] [notice] Child 3153 stats:
0.01 0.02 0.03 0.04 0.05 0.06 0.07 0.08
99 749 98 33 10 4 6 1
[Sun Aug 1 19:49:47 2004] [notice] Child 3162 stats:
0.01 0.02 0.03 0.04 0.05 0.06 0.07 0.08 0.09
88 720 123 39 16 5 7 1 1

(1st line is timing in sec, 2nd line - number of hits)

Well, guys, I'm just a leader programmer of the project, and may be we're not the very best counter out there (please, let me know if we're not). I just want to say, IMHO it's not all bad in using counters.

Thanks!

Mike Blazer
Programmer at MasterStats.com