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2004-07-05, 05:28 PM | #1 |
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Freesite Review Request
Hi
I'm almost done building my first freesite, and I was wundering if you guys could help me out by reviewing it. I probably missed a lot of details, but I've tried to apply all the stuff a learnt so far. That's the link: http://www.livechat4free.com/freesit...5/warning.html The site is not finished [need the other LL recips, mirrors, the pix in the galleries, etc] but i'll finish it up quick later on. I also have about 2.5 million questions, but I'll keep trying the search feature for most of 'em. Here are a few really quick ones though: - Are thumbs without links used as publicity considered blind/misleading links? If they don't link anywhere, what harm can they do? - Is it better to submit the above site to LLs in amateur section or webcam section? - Do I have more chances of being accepted on a link list if i put banners instead of only links? thanks in advance, and sorry for the newb questions. I hope my freesite isn't hopeless...
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2004-07-05, 09:48 PM | #2 |
Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer?
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Your warning page should be index.html
I would add a few more recips on the warning page. Some reviewers might have a problem with the 2 unlinked thumbs on the warning page. The ads on the main page are a bit misleading. Is it me or are there no thumbs on the galleries??????? |
2004-07-06, 04:37 AM | #3 |
Former pr0n slinger.
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There are also to many outside links on your main.html page.
Most LL owners only allow 3. |
2004-07-06, 07:28 AM | #4 |
Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer?
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I was so eager to look at your freesite I missed you question.
Yes unlinked thumbs will cause you to be rejected by some reviewer. The category you submit under will really depend on the content you add to the galleries. For the last question I'm guessing you referring to the recips. In that case it shouldn't matter. Please don't be afraid to ask questions you can't find the answers to. |
2004-07-06, 09:31 AM | #5 |
24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think NOT!
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On your entry page:
http://www.livechat4free.com/freesit...5/warning.html While I don't have a problem with unlinked thumbs... the text that accompanies them would be considered a blind link. "Click here to visit her page now" Something like "Take the low cost trial now" might be better I would suggest at least 6+ recips to link lists there... but I assume that is in development http://www.livechat4free.com/freesites/040615/main.html I would suggest you move your gallery links higher up this page and have a think about your sponsor links... you have too many there for most LL's http://www.livechat4free.com/freesit.../gallery1.html The banner link with the 2 kissing girls would be considered as a thumb that leads to a sponsor and so would be seen as a blind link. I am also assuming that you intend to have at least 10 thumbs on that page leading to full pics. http://www.livechat4free.com/freesit.../gallery2.html Could be the same issue with that top sponsor image... although i see at the moment its not linked Also your title bar on gallery 2... says gallery 1 As far as which category to submit to, if you don't actually offer web cams on the free site then I think you should be submitting to amateurs, but this will depend on what content you are intending to use. It is always best to select a category to submit to based on content rather than the sponsor you are promoting. Good Luck with your site K |
2004-07-06, 06:42 PM | #6 |
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Thanks a lot for the review, its very helpfull. I'll modify the site according to your suggestions.
and yes, pics in the galleries and recips is all work in progress So, what if i decide to take the whole table with the thumb and the text, like in my first gallery http://www.livechat4free.com/freesit.../gallery1.html or on my main page, and make a banner with it ... without modifying what it looks like that is. So that instead of being an html table it would be an image. Would that escape being percived as a blind link? or is it really the size and shape that influences the decision? i'm off to re-work on my site ... thanks again
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2004-07-06, 08:31 PM | #7 |
The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep
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Why the fuck would anyone have a problem with those 2 thumbs with text between them on the 1st page? It's obviously a small bit of promo/preview for the coming pages.
I'd get rid of the webmasters link on the pages as well - how many webmasters do you think will be looking at this site? Get the thumbs & other recips up & I'll take a look at the other pages |
2004-07-06, 09:46 PM | #8 | |
Eighteen 'til I Die
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I consider a blind link to be a hyperlink, either text or image, that misleads the surfer into going somewhere they were not intending to go. I think of it as being deceptive. For example, "FREE PICTURE ARE HERE" and instead of taking the surfer to a gallery, it goes to a pay site's tour or join page. In the case of French Canadian's warning page, I can not see the blind link. The text between the two thumbs is a definite pitch for the pay site and no mouseover is used to hide the url in the status bar. If I clicked on the "Click here to visit her page now" I would know that I was going to the paysite. |
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2004-07-06, 09:58 PM | #9 |
24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think NOT!
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Fair enough I guess its all a matter of personal opinion. I saw that as the first link on the page... and it suggested going to a "page" rather than a "site"
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2004-07-07, 05:49 PM | #10 |
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good point ... so i'll leave the text the way it is but will change 'page' for 'site'.
it'll be all done soon... hopefully thanks, i'll repost soon
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2004-07-08, 10:08 AM | #11 |
24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think NOT!
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So how is that site going? Got those gallery pages up yet?
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2004-07-08, 08:20 PM | #12 |
The poster formally known as NOCHEXContact
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Everyone seems to have covered the design, IMHO I think you need to look more closely at your text. Its something am trying to do myself and if this your starting point I would suggest you get it into your thinking patterns early.
You have this; You like Lesbian Teens kissing? This site has the greatest content you will ever find! Click here for FREE sample pictures, or click here for their main page and more free smaple pictures Try something like this; We all love the thought of two lesbian TEEN girls kissing and to prove it we have over 460 Lesbian Photo Stories & Over 140 Amateur Lesbian Videos take a look now at hot teens kissing.... Or this The sweet sight of two blonde teen babes fully kissing one another and slowly undressing each other before my very eyes ever wondered what that look like - take a peak I wont tell xx I dont claim these to be the best solution to what you are trying to acheive though thats what the pictures on your site say though the wording fails to sell me on wanting to click. a couple of other things which are easily resolved - You have Talk live with this extreamly hot teen & many more Amateur Girls Click here! Sultry stylish amatuer models are waiting now to provide very sexy private 1-2-1 entertainment step inside for your ride xx As I said at the start of mypost, I am only just realising the importance of the text, one guy sends me sites whichmostpeople would not list for toffee though people mail me asking for more off him cause to be honest you can get off on his sales patter. Im no jedi knight of this whole adult world and in terms of design and development Im as green as you I would go far as to say Im a greenguy when it comes to porn - pardon the punt Mr GG. What I have learnt however from trade shows and dealing with people online is that the text is 80% of getting the sale. At AOE this year I listened to one guy get up and speak about this very subject, EVERYTHING else he said I disagreed with but not this. Remember to send me your work to list dude :-) |
2004-07-17, 12:20 AM | #13 |
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Sorry about not posting sooner, but I was away for a few days.
I modified my freesite according to all your helpful comments. http://www.livechat4free.com/freesit...708/index.html I read a post somewhere on this board that talked about how most of the sales come from the warning page. So I thought i'd try and put my best publicity on it... if you guys disagree and think another one of them is better, please feel free to let me know. NochexContact: Sorry if my text really resambles your suggestions, but I thought they were pretty good. If you're not OK with it, let me know I'll change the texts. But your post really made me think ... i'll put more efforts next time into my text links. thanks. I also have a few other quick questions... - The keywords i put on top of the page... makes sense? worth it? Should I add more? - Should i have more publicity on my index page? - How about the size of the pix/thumbs and their resolution? can I decrece it even more? - Should I submit to every link list and search engine i come across? or would that just kill my bandwidth limit? Thanks a lot again! btw the old version is still up, at the same URL ... in case you need it.
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2004-07-24, 11:09 AM | #14 |
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Was my freesite so bad that no one dared commenting again?
Kezza? Greenguy? anyone else? http://www.livechat4free.com/freesit...708/index.html Thanks
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2004-07-24, 01:12 PM | #15 |
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Hey French Canadian, I'll try to review your site
http://www.livechat4free.com/freesit...708/index.html first, you're missing some meta tags and alt tags. I agree with nochex regarding the text, instead of using "click here" try something like, 'come inside the exclusive area to see this hot amateur in action with her friends' or something, but link all the text. Also, make the text stand out more, you want the surfer to stop there in their process of scanning the page Personally, i think it's best to list below or just above your 2257 info, sites like cybernanny for parents, don't actually link them, just provide the url for cut and paste On your titles, vary them slightly and target slightly different keywords. The titles for your first two pages don't have one word the same. On your gallery pages, the "48 free pictures" goes to your sponsor? Might be considered a blink link. You have one image(3rd row) that is just kind of floating off by itself, add it to the bottom row or underneath it and center the banner. Here http://www.livechat4free.com/freesit.../gallery1.html the light blue bg in your cell draws my attention well, try using more bg colors and contrasting font colors to attract the eyes throughout your site. Especially on your mainpage when promoting perfect paz, the pics will catch my eye , but nothing draws my attention into the middle where the ad is. There ya' go, hope it helps, ---chris
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2004-07-27, 08:58 AM | #16 |
24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think NOT!
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Sorry it took me so long to reply.
Site looks good I dont see a problem with the text on the top of the pages. As others have said you need to make better use of your alt tags and perhaps make them a couple of descriptive keywords describing each thumb, rather than "click to enlarge" I always like to use mouseovers to hide the sponsors code (especially CCBill) so use http://www.sapphicerotica. com/ it makes the surfer feel more comfortable in my opinion. good luck |
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