TGP2 Question

gel · 2003-09-24, 03:25 PM

There have been a few posts lately concerning TGP2. I've been thinking about doing TGP2 again.

If I remember correctly the original concept of TGP2 meant 5 clickable thumbs not just 5 thumbs total. You could have 12-15 total thumbs but only 5 of them could be linked.

In my mind the model using 12-16 thumbs with only 5 clikable thumbs is far more of a tease than just having 5 thumbs.

Why wouldn't TGP2 owners accept galleries with 12-16 thumbs with only 5 being clickable.

DangerDave · 2003-09-24, 05:12 PM

gel,

I believe the standard now is just the 5 clickable thumbs... linked to big pic HTML pages...

One of the TGP2 guys should be able to give you a more solid answer tho..

DD

gel · 2003-09-24, 05:46 PM

I think your correct as to the 5 thumbs as the current standard.

I just wish someone could explain the reasoning behind the change.

zeus1962 · 2003-09-24, 06:07 PM

I'm just starting out with tgp2 and after researching its history, the consensus seems to be that having so many non-clickable thumbs does tease the surfer. However, many early TGP2 people found that it pissed them off to the point that, instead of getting frustrated to the point of signing up with a sponsor, they just left the site never to return. i.e. no bookmarkers. Also, arguably, only 5 thumbs gives more room for creative advertising without the page becoming overly huge. And, it's also a bit easier to review a gallery without having to check which of the 5 thumbs actually have a link.

As a new surfer many years ago, thats why I personally hated to visit this kind of gallery. Then again, there is a compromise being made between being a little surfer friendly by having all 5 thumbs actaully go to a full size pic and limiting the content with more adds.

There are still a few sites around accepting galleries in the original format, and I too would be interested in their opinion and how their productivity fares in comparison to the current model.

gel · 2003-09-24, 06:45 PM

Zeus, your point about having non-clickable thumbs pissing off the surfer too much makes some sense. Though I would suspect very few surfers bother visiting a TGP2 more than once or twice. I would think most surfers would end up at a standard TGP and never look back.

zeus1962 · 2003-09-24, 07:27 PM

>>Though I would suspect very few surfers bother visiting a TGP2 more than once or twice. I would think most surfers would end up at a standard TGP and never look back.<<

I agree to the extent that they would prefer a large non-CJ TGP1, which is why the site/gallery rules prohibit links to these sites.

However, many CJ's with extremely high % skims are still managing to move considerable traffic and using similar traffic techniques can still work with TGP2's.

Also, I believe a surfer may still prefer a daily updated niche specific non-CJ TGP2, provided it had a fair number of 5 thumb galleries, over a TGP1 CJ with high skimming. And, it would still be bookmarked alongside the hun, for example, if it was a micro-niche.

The key may be to develop extremely focused underpromoted micro niche galleries of 5 thumbs, where 10 or more would be hard to come up with especially in a series, from the larger purchased and sponsor provided content sets and locate relevant sponsors with at least one of those specific types of pics on their tours.

gel · 2003-09-24, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zeus1962
>>Though I would suspect very few surfers bother visiting a TGP2 more than once or twice. I would think most surfers would end up at a standard TGP and never look back.<<

I agree to the extent that they would prefer a large non-CJ TGP1, which is why the site/gallery rules prohibit links to these sites.

However, many CJ's with extremely high % skims are still managing to move considerable traffic and using similar traffic techniques can still work with TGP2's.

Also, I believe a surfer may still prefer a daily updated niche specific non-CJ TGP2, provided it had a fair number of 5 thumb galleries, over a TGP1 CJ with high skimming. And, it would still be bookmarked alongside the hun, for example, if it was a micro-niche.

The key may be to develop extremely focused underpromoted micro niche galleries of 5 thumbs, where 10 or more would be hard to come up with especially in a series, from the larger purchased and sponsor provided content sets and locate relevant sponsors with at least one of those specific types of pics on their tours.

Good idea, I suspect you'd have to build a fake TGP2 using only your own galleries. It might be a good way to market a tiny niche.

Snowone · 2003-09-24, 11:23 PM

TGP2 got rid of the extra unlinked thumbs EONS ago. Close to 18 months to be exact.

The current rules can be seen HERE

Those rules are pulled from a central location by a active tgp2's.

gel · 2003-09-24, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snowone
TGP2 got rid of the extra unlinked thumbs EONS ago. Close to 18 months to be exact.

The current rules can be seen HERE

Those rules are pulled from a central location by a active tgp2's.

Yes but why the change?

StacyCat · 2003-09-25, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zeus1962

And, it would still be bookmarked alongside the hun, for example, if it was a micro-niche.

The key may be to develop extremely focused underpromoted micro niche galleries of 5 thumbs, where 10 or more would be hard to come up with especially in a series, from the larger purchased and sponsor provided content sets and locate relevant sponsors with at least one of those specific types of pics on their tours.

I thought about that, the only galleries that Ive seen on sites were niche galleries (specifically, BBW and balloons)

ive also looked into the Gallery pool, anyone have any ideas on how that works, or is working out for them?

OzKaNoz · 2003-09-25, 03:16 AM

Hi Gel
The non clickable thumbs were drop because it was a bit confusing to surfers and tgp2 site owner. Thet really did not help the productivity anyway. It just more or less just pissed surfers off. Since the rule was changed about 18 months ago conversion rates have gone up.

Now someone said that why would anyone bookmark a tgp2 site over a tgp site.
Tgp2 sites are highly bookmarked by surfers. Tgp2 sites not being bookmarked is just misinformation.
First thing is a surfer is Not going to click every thumbs on a tgp gallery. That's not what they are looking for. What they are looking for is good porn, fast loading stuff they like. With tgp2 thats what they get. Why wouldn't you bookmark something that gives you what you want.

Now on the Tgp2 Gallery Pool.
You can submit up to 10 Tgp2 galleries a day.
Use different descriptions for each gallery
Try to not submit more then 5 galleries to one niche.
There are over 60 niches to submit to so you shouldn't have a problem finding what is right for your gallery.

A added plus of submitting to the Gallery Pool is that after the galleries are reviewed, your galleries will be pull into the http://Tgp2traffic.com gallery rotator data base.
You say "So big deal, who cares"

Well what it means to submitters is they will get traffic.
The gallery rotator is seeing between 20k to 30k of gallery views a day. This are galleries pull from the Tgp2 Gallery Pool.

The traffic at Tgp2 Traffic is growing at a pretty fast rate.
There are over 70 plus Tgp2 sites using the rotator right now.

And don't forget, Tgp2 galleries can convert 30 times better then standard tgp galleries.

Hope this helps

Oz

2003-09-24, 03:25 PM	#1
gel Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Way up north, but at least not in Canada Posts: 25	TGP2 Question There have been a few posts lately concerning TGP2. I've been thinking about doing TGP2 again. If I remember correctly the original concept of TGP2 meant 5 clickable thumbs not just 5 thumbs total. You could have 12-15 total thumbs but only 5 of them could be linked. In my mind the model using 12-16 thumbs with only 5 clikable thumbs is far more of a tease than just having 5 thumbs. Why wouldn't TGP2 owners accept galleries with 12-16 thumbs with only 5 being clickable.

2003-09-24, 05:12 PM	#2
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	gel, I believe the standard now is just the 5 clickable thumbs... linked to big pic HTML pages... One of the TGP2 guys should be able to give you a more solid answer tho.. DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-09-24, 06:07 PM	#4
zeus1962 Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 10	I'm just starting out with tgp2 and after researching its history, the consensus seems to be that having so many non-clickable thumbs does tease the surfer. However, many early TGP2 people found that it pissed them off to the point that, instead of getting frustrated to the point of signing up with a sponsor, they just left the site never to return. i.e. no bookmarkers. Also, arguably, only 5 thumbs gives more room for creative advertising without the page becoming overly huge. And, it's also a bit easier to review a gallery without having to check which of the 5 thumbs actually have a link. As a new surfer many years ago, thats why I personally hated to visit this kind of gallery. Then again, there is a compromise being made between being a little surfer friendly by having all 5 thumbs actaully go to a full size pic and limiting the content with more adds. There are still a few sites around accepting galleries in the original format, and I too would be interested in their opinion and how their productivity fares in comparison to the current model. Last edited by zeus1962; 2003-09-24 at 06:17 PM..

2003-09-25, 03:16 AM	#11
OzKaNoz Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 21	Hi Gel The non clickable thumbs were drop because it was a bit confusing to surfers and tgp2 site owner. Thet really did not help the productivity anyway. It just more or less just pissed surfers off. Since the rule was changed about 18 months ago conversion rates have gone up. Now someone said that why would anyone bookmark a tgp2 site over a tgp site. Tgp2 sites are highly bookmarked by surfers. Tgp2 sites not being bookmarked is just misinformation. First thing is a surfer is Not going to click every thumbs on a tgp gallery. That's not what they are looking for. What they are looking for is good porn, fast loading stuff they like. With tgp2 thats what they get. Why wouldn't you bookmark something that gives you what you want. Now on the Tgp2 Gallery Pool. You can submit up to 10 Tgp2 galleries a day. Use different descriptions for each gallery Try to not submit more then 5 galleries to one niche. There are over 60 niches to submit to so you shouldn't have a problem finding what is right for your gallery. A added plus of submitting to the Gallery Pool is that after the galleries are reviewed, your galleries will be pull into the http://Tgp2traffic.com gallery rotator data base. You say "So big deal, who cares" Well what it means to submitters is they will get traffic. The gallery rotator is seeing between 20k to 30k of gallery views a day. This are galleries pull from the Tgp2 Gallery Pool. The traffic at Tgp2 Traffic is growing at a pretty fast rate. There are over 70 plus Tgp2 sites using the rotator right now. And don't forget, Tgp2 galleries can convert 30 times better then standard tgp galleries. Hope this helps Oz __________________ Sex Toy's Sale!

2003-09-24, 05:46 PM	#3
gel Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Way up north, but at least not in Canada Posts: 25	I think your correct as to the 5 thumbs as the current standard. I just wish someone could explain the reasoning behind the change.

2003-09-24, 06:45 PM	#5
gel Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Way up north, but at least not in Canada Posts: 25	Zeus, your point about having non-clickable thumbs pissing off the surfer too much makes some sense. Though I would suspect very few surfers bother visiting a TGP2 more than once or twice. I would think most surfers would end up at a standard TGP and never look back.

2003-09-24, 07:27 PM	#6
zeus1962 Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 10	>>Though I would suspect very few surfers bother visiting a TGP2 more than once or twice. I would think most surfers would end up at a standard TGP and never look back.<< I agree to the extent that they would prefer a large non-CJ TGP1, which is why the site/gallery rules prohibit links to these sites. However, many CJ's with extremely high % skims are still managing to move considerable traffic and using similar traffic techniques can still work with TGP2's. Also, I believe a surfer may still prefer a daily updated niche specific non-CJ TGP2, provided it had a fair number of 5 thumb galleries, over a TGP1 CJ with high skimming. And, it would still be bookmarked alongside the hun, for example, if it was a micro-niche. The key may be to develop extremely focused underpromoted micro niche galleries of 5 thumbs, where 10 or more would be hard to come up with especially in a series, from the larger purchased and sponsor provided content sets and locate relevant sponsors with at least one of those specific types of pics on their tours.

2003-09-24, 11:23 PM	#8
Snowone Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 20	TGP2 got rid of the extra unlinked thumbs EONS ago. Close to 18 months to be exact. The current rules can be seen HERE Those rules are pulled from a central location by a active tgp2's.