Eulogy for America from Russia

Linkster · 2004-11-08, 08:26 PM

Pravda - new out of Russia - amazingly perceptive and well thought out article about the state of affairs in the US
one small pop-under(not malicious)

http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/...5_euology.html

Useless · 2004-11-08, 11:25 PM

"To those in other nations who read this eulogy, who are still mystified by how swiftly a once great nation was transformed into a neo-fascist nightmare, and how easily a man as hateful, hypocritical, venal, bloodthirsty, warmongering, sadistic and deceitful as George W. Bush was converted into a paradigm for "moral values," all I can say is that millions in the late United States are pondering these same questions."

Why don't we have journalism like this here, where it it needed?

Bill · 2004-11-09, 02:37 AM

A chilling article, which almost perfectly captures my feelings about what is happening to the US.

A shame it's in Pravda, which has become pretty much the National Enquirer of publications in Russia.

But it was a beautiful rant, and I loved it.

Mishi · 2004-11-09, 03:52 AM

It sums up my feelings as well, but I would like to know more about the author (David R. Hoffman). A brief Google search shows nothing more than his Pravda.ru articles (let's face it, the front page looks a lot like Weekly World News) and a brief mention that he was once a Professor of Communications (no alma mater given).

He has a long history of profoundly pessimistic anti-Bush articles. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that - just trying to figure out what his cred is. Because if he doesn't have any, I want to be next in line for an editorship at Pravda.ru, so maybe people will start listening to me.

Sarah_Jayne · 2004-11-09, 06:58 AM

I used to have people send me copies of Pravda for me to collect. From what I understand it has been fighting for its life lately.

GunnCat · 2004-11-09, 07:36 AM

Hit the nail on the head.

spazlabz · 2004-11-09, 09:29 AM

very good article. But while I agree with the many points lined out in it, I disagree that it is a euology. I don't think those virtues which have made America great are lost forever, just hidden and pushed aside for 4 more years. This country is resiliant, and so are her people. The national attitude will tire of the half truths and lies of this administration and I believe that their party will suffer a backlash in the next mid term elections and then the following presidential race.
But with as many Americans that voted for Kerry or Nader I believe we are still a strong, even if strongly divided, country

spaz

GunnCat · 2004-11-09, 10:49 AM

I like Bill Maher's idea about letting the south secede and taking Texas with them

(though 140 years late, but better than ever).

Useless · 2004-11-09, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GunnCat
I like Bill Maher's idea about letting the south secede and taking Texas with them (though 140 years late, but better than ever).

I think it would be better to squeeze them all in the middle of the U.S. We should take both coasts and the northern row of states as a bridge between coasts. They can have the midwest and Texas.

MadMax · 2004-11-09, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GunnCat
I like Bill Maher's idea about letting the south secede and taking Texas with them (though 140 years late, but better than ever).

Watching Bill every Friday night has kept me sane through the campaign/election. I loved Politically Incorrect, and Real Time is even better. It's nice to have at least one popular figure that I can agree with 95% of the time.

Pazz · 2004-11-11, 09:32 AM

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2004-11-09, 09:29 AM	#7
spazlabz You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bluegrass State Posts: 963	very good article. But while I agree with the many points lined out in it, I disagree that it is a euology. I don't think those virtues which have made America great are lost forever, just hidden and pushed aside for 4 more years. This country is resiliant, and so are her people. The national attitude will tire of the half truths and lies of this administration and I believe that their party will suffer a backlash in the next mid term elections and then the following presidential race. But with as many Americans that voted for Kerry or Nader I believe we are still a strong, even if strongly divided, country spaz __________________

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2004-11-09, 02:37 AM	#3
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	A chilling article, which almost perfectly captures my feelings about what is happening to the US. A shame it's in Pravda, which has become pretty much the National Enquirer of publications in Russia. But it was a beautiful rant, and I loved it.

2004-11-09, 03:52 AM	#4
Mishi I want to live. I want to experience the universe, and I want to eat pie. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain Posts: 661	It sums up my feelings as well, but I would like to know more about the author (David R. Hoffman). A brief Google search shows nothing more than his Pravda.ru articles (let's face it, the front page looks a lot like Weekly World News) and a brief mention that he was once a Professor of Communications (no alma mater given). He has a long history of profoundly pessimistic anti-Bush articles. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that - just trying to figure out what his cred is. Because if he doesn't have any, I want to be next in line for an editorship at Pravda.ru, so maybe people will start listening to me.

2004-11-09, 07:36 AM	#6
GunnCat You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 547	Hit the nail on the head.

2004-11-09, 10:49 AM	#8
GunnCat You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 547	I like Bill Maher's idea about letting the south secede and taking Texas with them (though 140 years late, but better than ever).