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Old 2005-04-23, 01:05 PM   #26
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Pssshh... I think I'm on the highest resolution of everyone else:

1680x1050

I have fairly good vision, and have no trouble seeing fonts. The downside is reviewing sites in a non-native 800x600 resolution.
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Old 2005-04-23, 01:06 PM   #27
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i use still the 800x600 i have tried 1024 but all is sooooooo smallll , i will stick with the 800x600
You think 1024x768 is small? |shocking|
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Old 2005-04-23, 02:51 PM   #28
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Pssshh... I think I'm on the highest resolution of everyone else:

1680x1050
What video card? God that's sounds like a great resolution...I hit the highest res. my video card could go to.
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Old 2005-04-23, 02:58 PM   #29
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New 17" Powerbook and the G5 towers support 2560x1600 on Apple's 30" monitor.
http://www.apple.com/displays/specs.html
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My editing system is a two screener (actually 3 if you count the video monitor) so on that one I am running 2560 X 1024 over to screens, and my main system here runs 1024 X 768. I could run higher resolution, but I find it just leads to me using bigger fonts and graphcis on pages... most of my other systems are 1024 x 768 or 800 x 600 depending on age and monitor size.

I think that it will soon be time to start accepting sites fitting into 1024 X 768 screens, as less and less people have the 800 X 600 as standard anymore.

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Old 2005-04-23, 03:14 PM   #31
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RE: "as less and less people have the 800 X 600 as standard anymore" My stats don't show much of a drop off. Although most people have better monitors, the largest share seems to go to 800X600.
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Old 2005-04-23, 03:18 PM   #32
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How many actually surf with the browser set to full screen?

I know that I don't. Even if I did I would still have my Dock taking up part of the screen.
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Here is someone who did some pretty intensive hashing of info on the subject - however, their sample was a bit small (under 1k)

http://evolt.org/article/Real_World_...at_II/20/2297/

The number of 800 X 600 browsers has been overtaken by the number large, the whole thing has tipped over (probably last two years) to bigger sizes. As people upgrade pcs and move to newer systems, I think you will see this number move up.

Also, LCD screens tend to be a bit sharper than tubes, and most of them have a native bet mode around 1200 X 800 or so. My LCD 17 inch monitor can display upwards to 2500 X 1600 very sharp, but I can't read it!

Just when you thought you had enough of screen resolution issues, remember that your TV is being revamped too! It isn't getting better, it's getting worse!

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Old 2005-04-23, 03:31 PM   #34
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You could also get the "google answer" on the subject:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=341264

Again, they are seeing the trend to higher resolutions (640 X 480, example, is all but extinct) but that 800 X 600 is still the seeming default for design.

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Old 2005-04-23, 03:43 PM   #35
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1024x768 here, browse and work at full screen then check my sites at 800 and adjust if needed
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Interesting reading. While my initial thoughts about a much higher percantage of webmasters using higher resolutions appears to be correct there have been a couple of things mentioned that I had not considered. Browsing at less than full screen size, and other programs or utilities occupying portions of the screen.

What this all tells me is that I can design the site for optimum use at 1024x768, but it needs to still be viewable at 800x600 without having a horizontal scroll.
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Old 2005-04-23, 07:25 PM   #37
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1152 x 864 is mine... Any bigger and I need my reading glasses for everything. But since I have a colour monitor (~1990) I have never used anything under 1024x768.

I'm still designing for 800 width, though (stupid as it seems).
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Interesting reading. While my initial thoughts about a much higher percantage of webmasters using higher resolutions appears to be correct there have been a couple of things mentioned that I had not considered. Browsing at less than full screen size, and other programs or utilities occupying portions of the screen.

What this all tells me is that I can design the site for optimum use at 1024x768, but it needs to still be viewable at 800x600 without having a horizontal scroll.
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1280x1024 19" .. until I started to make free sites I used 1600x1200 :>
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1152x864 on my desktop, but check pages in 1024 (I do check in 800, too but wow that just hurts my eyes)
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Old 2005-04-26, 12:51 AM   #42
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I can run 1600x1200 on my 22" when I am doing developement with multiple helper windows open. Nice to be able to move them out of the active design space.

Generally I run 1024x768 with multiple browser windows set around 800x600. Then you hit all these sites that resize to maxWidth/maxHeight and they have no ideal what their sites look like at those resoulutions!
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Interesting reading. While my initial thoughts about a much higher percantage of webmasters using higher resolutions appears to be correct there have been a couple of things mentioned that I had not considered. Browsing at less than full screen size, and other programs or utilities occupying portions of the screen.

What this all tells me is that I can design the site for optimum use at 1024x768, but it needs to still be viewable at 800x600 without having a horizontal scroll.
Yep, that's what I've found too. I view @ full screen, always have - and I have mine set to 1024x768. I didn't realize that many webmasters do NOT view @ full screen so they can layer their windows. But when we did some site re-designs awhile ago for our message board, webmaster blog and main dot-com for the magazine, we received a lot of - well, let's just call them "constructively critical" emails and notes from webmasters. I was even told that sites should be designed @ about 750 width to completely rule out "threat" of a sideways scroll - which I guess really pisses off these small-screener folks.

But now these are WEBMASTERS so I wonder if we are designing for surfers, if the resolution needs to be different. I hear a lot of complaints on my surfer sites from people saying that an 800x600 design is "too big" and that they would prefer it be designed for the 1024 majority... just not sure which way to go, and I don't like how the 100% thing messes with your design. I want it to look the way *I* want it to look, you know?

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19 inch flat screen here...native is 1280x1024...which is where I'm at most of the time.

When building, I resize every page to make sure it looks decent at the most common sizes. Since I work in FF almost exclusively and have the developer tools installed...I can switch to 800x600...or 1024x768 at the click of a button

That said, pages that are specifically for webmasters, 1024x768 becomes the primary choice with 800x600 secondary.
As I told Toby in another forum I run 1600 X 1200, but I use FrontPage which also has the built in previewer that allows you to lauch whatever browser you want in whatever size to see how it appears.
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RE : "sites should be designed @ about 750 width" This is to allow for the scroll bars and window frames. By the same token, if you are designing for 1280x1024, the screen should be no wider than about 1230 etc.

If you are designing your own website then use whatever resolution you like, it is your site after all. But if you are designing for someone else and they don't specify resolution, ALWAYS keep screen width below 750 or be ready for the work to dry up when clients with 800X600 screens start to put the word round that you are no good. It will make no difference to them that you designed a kick ass site, if their clients cannot see the entire thing on their crappy old monitors then they are going to start putting the wrong kind of word out about you.
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You know, thinking on this topic, But not necessarily Toby's topic, it occurs to me that when I was a wee nipper on the web, Cnet had some "training" course that suggested the best way to design was for a maximum of 700 Pixels.
'course that was quite a while ago......

Back in the "old days" of the web.....Which I know Toby, who is MUCH older than me, remembers......
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...Back in the "old days" of the web.....Which I know Toby, who is MUCH older than me, remembers......
Hey now, not that much older, but I *was* there when Al Gore invented the Internet.
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