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Old 2005-10-09, 08:57 AM   #1
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I have to disagree with you mist. I certainly don't want them showing the pics all over.
Sure, it’s rather disturbing and it would be very uncomfortable to see the truth in the news or the papers, for many people, but war is not comfortable.

I think it’s tragic that we first elect the people that gladly starts the war, but we refuse to the see the consequences it causes.

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Old 2005-10-09, 11:55 AM   #2
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Sure, it’s rather disturbing and it would be very uncomfortable to see the truth in the news or the papers, for many people, but war is not comfortable.

I think it’s tragic that we first elect the people that gladly starts the war, but we refuse to the see the consequences it causes.

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AMEN.. at least in Vietnam, we weren't "chicken" to show the pictures of what was happening. Remember the napalm naked little girl running across the cover of life?

the news media is so afraid to report either for being labled at "right winged" or "left winged" they forget we are "human winged".

and while i'm on my soap box..i'm so fuckign sick and tired of the "foxes" of this world justifying Abu Grave (or however the fuck it's spelled) by saying "at least we didn't cut their heads off".. WE are supposed to be BETTER than they.. WE are supposed to hold ourselves up to a higher standard then becoming the enemy we are fighting.. AND whatever happened to responsibility? The person with the least to lose (Linde England) took the fall for those who should have KNOWN what was going on. Why wasn't the head of the prison reprimanded at the very least.. She should have known what was going on inside her own prison.

I say let the world see the effects of war..maybe it will make someone somewhere think twice before rushing in to show 'Shock & Awe'...

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Old 2005-10-09, 04:20 PM   #3
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the news media is so afraid to report either for being labled at "right winged" or "left winged" they forget we are "human winged".
That may concern some media execs but I think we know they're afraid of something a little more dangerous then just public opinion.
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Old 2005-10-09, 05:28 PM   #4
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Old 2005-10-12, 02:53 PM   #5
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if i'm reading this right polk just thinks fisting is obscene not porn in general right?
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Old 2005-10-09, 08:46 AM   #6
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I love horror and even gore movies so I thought about taking a look at one of the pics and errrrr that was pretty damn nasty.DISGUSTING
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Old 2005-10-09, 09:06 PM   #7
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Old 2005-10-10, 05:26 AM   #8
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Some of sponsorchat's members seem to hang out there.

"Registered Users: 11444, 18890704, 657GVR4"

Serious now, that's one fucked up board...
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Old 2005-10-10, 10:36 AM   #9
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He wasn't on Bill Maher and yes, Anne Coulter and a lot of supporters are turning away from Dubya right now. Not even raising terror alerts can get his supporters back.
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Old 2005-10-10, 04:26 PM   #10
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ya know after thinking about this
I bet that sheriff or whoever arrested him has ideas of being mayor or something and figured this would be some easy and free publicity
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Old 2005-10-10, 04:47 PM   #11
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ya know after thinking about this
I bet that sheriff or whoever arrested him has ideas of being mayor or something and figured this would be some easy and free publicity
That very well could be. Politicians are very slick & slimy these days. They could care less about outcome as long as they come out looking better than when they went in
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Old 2005-10-11, 12:49 AM   #12
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Old 2005-10-11, 02:32 AM   #13
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I don't understand what any of you are talking about

What is wrong with our great nation led by our trustworthy and wise leaders spreading the gospel of democracy around the globe at gun point?

Then, of course, censoring the news so that us free democratic people don't have to bother with truth and other nasty bits.

I hope all the fucking lyers burn in hell.
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I don't understand what any of you are talking about

What is wrong with our great nation led by our trustworthy and wise leaders spreading the gospel of democracy around the globe at gun point?

Then, of course, censoring the news so that us free democratic people don't have to bother with truth and other nasty bits.

I hope all those fucking lyers burn in hell.
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Old 2005-10-11, 07:41 AM   #15
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I'm on the wagon of believing that every person in America should have photos of their dead and dead Iraqis thrust in their faces every day as they have their morning coffee. Maybe they should actually check out the ragged bloody bodies of blown up children that they dismiss as some kind of unavoidable little hassle of war. I don't understand how people can so vehemently support something, and have no clue as to what it actually means.

I've been to SE Asia, and just being around Vietnamese people is enough to show anyone what war means. It means that 30 years later, little kids are still blowing their legs off on the landmines that the US left there, and that some decent chunk of the country's population has some sort of noticeable deformity or injury, either from direct injury or chemical warfare. I once watched a man on the street who was missing everything from the waist down who had a section of car tire around his stump-torso to protect it from dragging, scooting himself along with his hands like a long-armed ape. There is a museum in Ho Chi Minh City which has some of the most horrific photos of Napalm and other chemical effects, and even bottled deformed fetuses, it's something you don't forget seeing.

Millions of people are living with the effects of Agent Orange, but the companies involved in making it are still around and profitable, and in the case of Monsanto, are coming to control the world's food supply. (The majority of what Americans eat from grocery stores are GE foods, many of which which are created and patented by the creators of Agent Orange, without being warned that no one has *any idea* what the long-term effects of screwing with the genetics of everything are. Despite the fact that every poll ever conducted indicates that most Americans are for GE food labeling, the US government knows to not screw with a big company like Monsanto by questioning the safety of the foods they create for its citizens.)

Or, a lesser-known tragedy with chemical warfare is more recent: the effects of the dust from depleted uranium ammunition from the first gulf war. Here's a page I Googled, something everyone should have to ponder as they bitch about how we need to get cheaper gas: http://www.web-light.nl/VISIE/extremedeformities.html Look at those babies, and then tell me, "Oops, shit happens, what can ya do?"

All one really has to do is look 10 years in the past, 30 years in the past, and ask, "How did it turn out last time we went to war?" But, Americans have only as much of an attention span as their TV-fried brains allow, which means that anything that hasn't happened to them personally in the last week doesn't have any bearing on anything. It's all just a movie or something.
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