The Gop is gonna steal the nov elections again - Page 3

Tommy · 2006-07-07, 10:23 PM

the USS Cole was not a terrorist attack

a terrorist attack is an attack on innocent civilians according to bush

the USS Cole was/is a military target

juggernaut · 2006-07-07, 10:28 PM

When I see logic like that, that's when I can say bush is an idoit. He needs to keep his mouth shut. But as far as running this country he is no worse then anyone else. Hell the first president had slaves. Let start bashing him now lol.

Mr. Blue · 2006-07-07, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy

the USS Cole was not a terrorist attack

a terrorist attack is an attack on innocent civilians according to bush

the USS Cole was/is a military target

Bush can't pronounce the word nuclear...I'm not going to use his definition of terrorism.

Clinton said, ""If, as it now appears, this was an act of terrorism, it was a despicable and cowardly act. We will find out who was responsible and hold them accountable""

Clinton is so savvy with words that he accurately used the definition of sexual intercourse and argue that blowjobs don't count. So, I'm going to go with his definition of terrorism on this one.

juggernaut · 2006-07-07, 10:39 PM

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Clinton said, ""If, as it now appears, this was an act of terrorism, it was a despicable and cowardly act. We will find out who was responsible and hold them accountable"

Even when I read them to myself I felt safe and secure in our country, but another part of me knew it was a lie.

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Clinton is so savvy with words that he accurately used the definition of sexual intercourse and argue that blowjobs don't count.

If blowjobs dont count then can't the FSC use that in court against 2257?

Ramster · 2006-07-08, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

When I see logic like that, that's when I can say bush is an idoit. He needs to keep his mouth shut. But as far as running this country he is no worse then anyone else.

Actually he is worse than most. I am not big on politics but from what I understand Bush has put the US in huge debt and he is running that debt up daily. Bush has killed the US dollar compared to the rest of the world and I'm sure that's gotta hurt imports and exports, hense hurting the economy.

Clinton surely had issues as does every president but they did not do what Bush is doing to the deficit, dollar and long term budget of the US.

On that note I'm going golfing for the day. hehehe

ecchi · 2006-07-08, 08:22 AM

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Bush has killed the US dollar compared to the rest of the world and I'm sure that's gotta hurt imports and exports

In the short term it HELPS imports, which is why he did it. But in the long term it leads to galloping inflation and (eventually) a recession or even a depression.

This is one case where George W. is not actually stupid. At the moment it makes things look good in the economy, but it a few years time the shit will hit the fan. So people will look back and say "He must have been a good president because while he was in office we had a good economy, but after he left and another president took over we had galloping inflation ($10 loaf of bread anyone?) and finally went into another depression."

This is the one reason your 2 term max is not a good idea. George W. knows he cannot stand again, so to look good in history he has to make his term look better that the next. Over here, our prime minister knows that there is a risk that he will be re-elected every time (he is now on his 3rd or 4th term) so cannot afford to do the same shit George W. is doing to you guys.

juggernaut · 2006-07-08, 09:32 AM

Bush did not kill the US $$. The EU is killing the US $$. That's the fact. There will be roughly 30 countries in the EU by 2007 and that's how many it takes to weeken the US dollar. Foreign investors over the last 5 years have pumped more money in with the EU then the US. Reason being the countries that have and are entering the EU over the next few years have great deals at bargin basement prices. Would you like to own a 10 floor apartment building in the center of a city for 200k, hold on to it till the country is in the EU and you now own a 2 million dollar apartment building. No governemt purposly kills it' own curency I think GW is smart enough to figure that out. It's world economys that kill them.

ecchi · 2006-07-08, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

Bush did not kill the US $$. The EU is killing the US $$. That's the fact.

Oh I so wish the EEC had that much power. But you are wrong. And it would be a stupid thing for the EU to do. The EU (and the Euro) was originally founded to help combat America's Economic dominance. The idea was for member countries to be able to sell more to America and other non-European countries. The weak has the OPPOSITE effect. It makes it hard to sell to the US because it means European goods are more expensive in the US (would you pay $10 for something made in Europe when you can buy an American version for $6?). It also makes it somewhat harder to sell to other countries, because they can buy the same thing from the US cheaper.

So no, I am afraid the EU is not responsible for the wear dollar, if they could change anything they would make it stronger.

ecchi · 2006-07-08, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

No governemt purposly kills it' own curency.

Every western country spends a lot of time and money 'killing' their own currency. Bush is just doing what everyone does. It is just that he has gone too far. The system is this:

Very strong Currency - Recession Today.
Slightly weak Currency - Economic Stability.
Very weak Currency - Economic Stability, but Recession in a few years time.

Bush should be aiming for the middle one, but he is aiming for the bottom one. It makes him look good today, and even better in the future when the shit hits someone else's fan.

T Pat · 2006-07-08, 11:16 AM

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another terror arrest

FBI disrupts New York City tunnel plot

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060707/...kxBHNlYwN0bQ--

funny how there werent any arrests for years

all of a sudden there are all these weak terror arrests

They are trying to show the voting public
that they should still be very afraid and only the GOP can protect them

I'm sure your right on this Tommy Mexico just used the same tactic with their presidential election by arresting former President Luis Echeverria and some of his PRI cronies on the charges of Genocide two days before the elections, to remind voters that they had just gone through 71 years of corruption under the PRI party and it's looking like PRI still managed to grab the majority of seats in the senate to once again keep the presidents hands tied.

On a side note Mexico estimated that there are 10,000,000 million Mexicans in the United States that were eligible to vote via mail and they were counting on them to vote logically and clean the leftists and PRI out of the government, only 41,000 bothered to register. The right guy won by a narrow margin we allmost had a clone of Venezuela's president as our next door neighbor.

SirMoby · 2006-07-08, 11:45 AM

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In the short term it HELPS imports, which is why he did it. But in the long term it leads to galloping inflation and (eventually) a recession or even a depression.

That's why I keep saying that we will have a difficult time around 2008 to 2010. He planned this when he took office and immediately removed pay as you go government. The huge deficit always leads to a weak currency. No debating that. Other factors may have some effects as well but the deficit is the biggest factor.

I'll say it again.

In 2008 the republicans don't want to win the Presidency because the next President doesn't have a chance of fixing the mess. The plan is to fuck things up as much as possible, blame the next President for it and then run brother Bush. That's when the Tom Delay's and Daddy's CIA friends will remove the power of the supreme court and rewrite the constitution.

2000, 7% of all tax dollar went to pay interest on loans taken when Dubya's daddy was in the administration. Today it's 15%. By the time someone gets control over it again it may be 20% to 25%.

Also our debt is currently about 30% of GDP. That will be 50% by the time it's curbed.

We're fucked but as long as there's hate the admin stays in power.

Jim · 2006-07-08, 02:38 PM

Have you ever noticed that if something good happens, it's because of Bush. If something bad happens, it's because Bush had to deal with Clinton's screw ups.

I know it's all politicians but I would love to hear a President say, "I screwed up and I entirely take the blame".

SirMoby · 2006-07-08, 03:11 PM

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I know it's all politicians but I would love to hear a President say, "I screwed up and I entirely take the blame".

Didn't he kind of do that with Katrina?

Bill · 2006-07-08, 03:24 PM

You guys keep talking like Bush is actually doing a presidents job.

The evidence is against it.

All he does is exercise and give good old boy speeches. He intentionally does not read the information prepared for the president, so that he can claim plausible deniability if his speeches are questioned.

This has been covered in the media a number of times, most recently in the PBS frontline special about Cheney's hugely expanded role, as a vice president, in planning the war in iraq.

And in Susskinds book "The One Percent Doctrine".

Cheney and Rove are the real president.

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juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	When I see logic like that, that's when I can say bush is an idoit. He needs to keep his mouth shut. But as far as running this country he is no worse then anyone else. Hell the first president had slaves. Let start bashing him now lol.

2006-07-08, 09:32 AM	#57
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Bush did not kill the US $$. The EU is killing the US $$. That's the fact. There will be roughly 30 countries in the EU by 2007 and that's how many it takes to weeken the US dollar. Foreign investors over the last 5 years have pumped more money in with the EU then the US. Reason being the countries that have and are entering the EU over the next few years have great deals at bargin basement prices. Would you like to own a 10 floor apartment building in the center of a city for 200k, hold on to it till the country is in the EU and you now own a 2 million dollar apartment building. No governemt purposly kills it' own curency I think GW is smart enough to figure that out. It's world economys that kill them.

2006-07-08, 02:38 PM	#62
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Have you ever noticed that if something good happens, it's because of Bush. If something bad happens, it's because Bush had to deal with Clinton's screw ups. I know it's all politicians but I would love to hear a President say, "I screwed up and I entirely take the blame".

2006-07-08, 03:24 PM	#64
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	You guys keep talking like Bush is actually doing a presidents job. The evidence is against it. All he does is exercise and give good old boy speeches. He intentionally does not read the information prepared for the president, so that he can claim plausible deniability if his speeches are questioned. This has been covered in the media a number of times, most recently in the PBS frontline special about Cheney's hugely expanded role, as a vice president, in planning the war in iraq. And in Susskinds book "The One Percent Doctrine". Cheney and Rove are the real president.