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Old 2007-02-25, 12:52 PM   #1
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Cool Unusual recips. May I?...

Check out this free site (not finished yet):
Raven Riley nude
What do you think? I mean the recips. Will I have any problems with getting listed?
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Old 2007-02-25, 01:23 PM   #2
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Ok...those recips (if you can call them that) don't look good !

I think that is a very stupid idea you had there
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Old 2007-02-25, 01:39 PM   #3
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Ok...those recips (if you can call them that) don't look good !
ok, that's why i'm here
can you be a little more specific?
why you say they're looking bad?

i can explain why i did it like that. but first i'd like to hear the opinion of the others.
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Old 2007-02-25, 02:14 PM   #4
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I actually think that they look pretty damn cool. I have no idea what a reviewer would think of it though. I'm not sure why you are putting the index on the root of your domain...You would be better off building multiple freesites and galleries for her and linking to them from there I think.

You need to correct your grammar...

You probably have seen me before. In case you haven't, I'm Raven Riley.

Scroll down to enter my site and see all of my photos where I am absolutely naked.
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Old 2007-02-25, 03:01 PM   #5
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Ok they definitely didn't looked like that when I saw them first (some tables were broken)

I don't know what the big LL owners think about them but I don't see them as category recips but as general recips !

I've noticed you've build them using 2 gif's , the one linked to the main site and the other to the category site but they seem to me confusing.

Maybe I'm wrong ... let's see what the big guys think
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Old 2007-02-25, 03:08 PM   #6
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I'm by no means a FS reviewer, but I think those look pretty cool. Now lets see what the big guys think.
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Old 2007-02-25, 03:11 PM   #7
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Very cool looking recips. I'd list a site with recips like this even though it is general and not a niche recip just because they are different and eye catching.

Edited * I guess it depends on where you link it as for being general or a niche recip but I have no problem with it either way.
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Old 2007-02-25, 03:12 PM   #8
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I like them
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Old 2007-02-25, 03:39 PM   #9
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I like them
Ditto, and I'd allow them.

I just wouldn't want to spend that much time making those recips, but they do blend into the page well.
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Old 2007-02-25, 04:39 PM   #10
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I'd list 'em, I prefer single recips straight to my index Does seem like a lot of work to go through though.
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Old 2007-02-25, 05:23 PM   #11
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I think that you made very good looking recips. I have really no idea what big LL owners think, but I'm sure that many LL owners should appreciate great design and visible placement of these recips
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Old 2007-02-25, 05:39 PM   #12
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I like them. I'd accept them no problem.
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Old 2007-02-25, 06:10 PM   #13
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They are different, but I think they might really blend in, even too much. With most LL's their recips are different and stand out, or try to. Not in this case. I also think they would probably get less clicks. Just my opinion.
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Old 2007-02-25, 07:09 PM   #14
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Are they pretty? Sure.

Would I accept them? No.

Why? (Other than the blind category links...)
Est Domains and Fedora-Hosting. A grand combo.
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Old 2007-02-25, 07:17 PM   #15
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Why waste your time on that kind of BS when your site wont get listed - youre on a dot org which we wont list, youre on fedora which wont get listed, youre on the same IP with other domain names that rip off LL names and there area few "undesirable type" names shared there and then you waste your traffic by linking to a .uk domain intermediary page that is probably gonna get used to redirect SE traffic later instead of directly to ravens paysite?
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Old 2007-02-25, 07:42 PM   #16
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I'm Wondering what Jayman will think of you using the name "Raven Riley" in your domain ... even tho you are promoting her .. I still think its a bit shady.

In regards to the recip .. they are fine but like others stated.. your on shaky ground being with EST and Fedora , .org isnt one of our favorite extension etc. (I dont like to have submissions from dot anything unless its .net or .com just my personal preference)

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Old 2007-02-25, 07:43 PM   #17
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Thanks guys for your answers.
Now let me tell you my vision of the ideal free site.
I assume that free sites should be mainly made for SE's. Instead of making another one piece of a "garbage.net", you should build a good place for surfers and a search engines. And if you want your new site to not become a part of "one of a... something", it should be as much unique as possible. And what we have on an average free site today? Same warning text, same copied descriptions, same recips, etc.
not good, isn't? and google think so too when put the most of free sites into supplemental results.
So i just think, what can i do? I can write my own unique description. a warning text can be done in the original way too, or i can just make the "standart" warning message as a JPG - so google can't read it.
but what about the recips? they are usually the same on every free site on the net |confused|
i can make them as an image too, but all link lists require you to link to them with an anchor text they need. but google count the alt="" tags as a part of your page. so i use the title="" tag - it is counted as a part of site to which refer. so finally my free site is good enough for me and for LL's in a SEO context.
but, as many of you have noticed, the recips doesn't look good because it seems like they have no visible text (but actually there is a text when you point the mouse over) and seems like there is only one link (but there is two!).


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I'm not sure why you are putting the index on the root of your domain...You would be better off building multiple freesites and galleries for her and linking to them from there I think.
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I think it's much better to have 10 links from 10 different domains than 10 links from one domain.

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You need to correct your grammar...
Thanks! But the text you suggest is less unique. So i've made some corrections. Hope it's ok now.

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I don't know what the big LL owners think about them but I don't see them as category recips but as general recips !

I've noticed you've build them using 2 gif's , the one linked to the main site and the other to the category site but they seem to me confusing.
yes, they actually are a category recips,... and they are confusing
that's why i came here for asking what you see.

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I just wouldn't want to spend that much time making those recips, but they do blend into the page well.
that's not so hard actually.
especially when you do one site a month or so, like i do

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they would probably get less clicks
a good LL owner should think more about own traffic from SE's and less about counting clicks from recips
and actually i disagree. i guess that usual recips are less noticeable because people have seen them many times already.

well, apparently the most of you would accept it. that's ok
i'll try. even if someone will reject it, i can always replace his link with another one to get as much links to this domain as i can.
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Old 2007-02-25, 08:30 PM   #18
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that's not so hard actually.
especially when you do one site a month or so, like i do
Well, even though it's not hard you can save yourself from building one from me, I have a rule against EST registered domains. Sorry.
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Old 2007-02-25, 08:39 PM   #19
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(Other than the blind category links...)
so you the one of those who count a recip-clicks. keep it going

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Est Domains and Fedora-Hosting. A grand combo.
and what's wrong with that?
does anyone else think so?

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Why waste your time on that kind of BS when your site wont get listed - youre on a dot org which we wont list, youre on fedora which wont get listed,
thanks for the warning. i'm not going to waste my time and your LL's won't get listed on my site. now how about that?
btw, what's wrong with the .ORG's ?!

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then you waste your traffic by linking to a .uk domain intermediary page that is probably gonna get used to redirect SE traffic later instead of directly to ravens paysite?
i should disappoint you, but... you have no clue what i'm doing (or planning to do) and why
i'm not going to redirect anything at all
but if you're so interested, i'm going to do with that .uk the same as with my other one - http://www.brookeskye.org.uk/ - it's now on top by "brooke skye" and "brookeskye"

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I'm Wondering what Jayman will think of you using the name "Raven Riley" in your domain ... even tho you are promoting her .. I still think its a bit shady.
i'm sure it's ok
this site exist to send a visitors to the original ravenriley.com, so what's the problem?

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your on shaky ground being with EST and Fedora , .org isnt one of our favorite extension etc. (I dont like to have submissions from dot anything unless its .net or .com just my personal preference)
all domains are same, no matter where they're registered or hosted!
i feel fine on estdomains and don't really want to pay 2-3 times more on other registrars.
And i'm not going to play russian roulette guessing which registrar you will like and which dislike. if you don't like estdomains, well fine, you won't get a links on my site, someone else will recieve it.

and how about the 3th level .UK domains? what is your personal preference regarding this?
and what hosting you prefer?

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Old 2007-02-25, 08:43 PM   #20
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perhaps we're all expecting too much from someone advertising a counter for freesites in their sig
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Old 2007-02-25, 09:25 PM   #21
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Hmmm...let's see here...

Estdomains...strike one...

Fedora hosting...strike two...

Ask for help, then have a pissy "I'm gonna change the world" attitude when some of the larger link sites tell you what's wrong...errr, that would be STEEERIKE THREE, you're outta there!

In case any of that slipped through your cracks, add me to the "i'm not going to waste my time and your LL's won't get listed on my site. now how about that?" list. Thank you...thank you very much...buh bye now
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Old 2007-02-25, 09:33 PM   #22
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Im happy that you think that you willl get listed and thats fine - Im telling you that you would not get listed because you arent a partner, and you are breaking just about every rule of almost all of the link lists out there - not just mine

If you dont want recommendations, then dont ask for them - and I can guarantee that no one cares one way or the other whether you "allow" them to be on your recip list
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so you the one of those who count a recip-clicks. keep it going
Will someone please translate that from Garbled Nonsense to English for me? I've no idea what he's saying.
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Old 2007-02-25, 09:46 PM   #24
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Yeah, I just looked at the recips, didn't even look at the url.

So blacklist me from your evil empire as well
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Old 2007-02-26, 12:56 AM   #25
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Is there something in the water lately?
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