Question about Softcore

Kisa · 2008-12-16, 01:06 PM

I was just wondering if someone could give me the clear line between softcore and hardcore, especially concerning solo vids. Thanks-

Dollpix · 2008-12-16, 01:10 PM

As far as I know, hardcore is fucking and masturbating, with or without toys.

Softcore are nude models doing non of the above.

Fonz · 2008-12-16, 01:19 PM

I don't consider masturbating with a toy hardcore, but that's just me...

Kisa · 2008-12-16, 01:20 PM

But I read that it can include simulated acts of masturbation and intercourse so what is confusing me are the solo vids of models w/out toys and w/out insertion of any kind.... ???

Kisa · 2008-12-16, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz

I don't consider masturbating with a toy hardcore, but that's just me...

Okay, that's exactly where I'm getting confused...

Mateusz · 2008-12-16, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz

I don't consider masturbating with a toy hardcore, but that's just me...

Neither do I

hashbury · 2008-12-16, 02:25 PM

I Dont think there is a perfectly clear line between hard and soft porn.
I would count masterbation with a toy as hardcore. Thats just how i see it.

Softcore pornography may depict nudity, including exposed breasts, buttocks, and non-graphic representations of male and female genitalia. It may also represent simulated acts of sexual intercourse or masturbation. However, it draws a line at graphic depictions of penetration and other sex acts.

Tommy · 2008-12-16, 05:29 PM

I feel masterbation with a toy is softcore

its interesting to see that other webmasters dont think so

Cleo · 2008-12-16, 05:33 PM

Pretty much anything involving only one model including the model with some kind of a toy although if the model's toy is say a chain saw and they are using it to saw cut off their legs then I guess then it would no longer be softcore.

LD · 2008-12-16, 05:43 PM

Sticking something inside a pussy in a sexual manner is hardcore to me. Rubbing, etc could be hardcore, but softcore if no pink is shown. I tend to think of cable porn as softcore, with hardcore showing real sex that is obviously not simulated.

Fonz · 2008-12-16, 05:52 PM

So right now it's about 50-50

i hope that answers you question Kisa

Useless · 2008-12-16, 07:03 PM

My friend, Mr. Pedia, agrees with me, or rather, I agree with Mr. Pedia:

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wiki Pedia

Softcore pornography (often abbreviated to soft porn) is a form of filmic or photographic pornography that, while erotically stimulating, is less sexually explicit than hardcore pornography. Softcore pornography may depict nudity, including exposed breasts, buttocks, and non-graphic representations of male and female genitalia. It may also represent simulated acts of sexual intercourse or masturbation. However, it draws a line at graphic depictions of penetration and other sex acts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softcore

By the way, that is the first time I've ever seen the word filmic.

Star Man · 2008-12-16, 07:13 PM

It's a toughy as far as toy's are concerned.If I reviewed a site with a hot babe fucking herself with a dildo I would label it as softcore content but it really is hardcore and here's why - Say she starts off with a dildo and shes penetrating herself with it.Now the scene progresses and she sticks the dildo deep in her ass and periodically pulls out to lick it.Still softcore? mmmm...I guess.

It's now deep into the scene and the dildo in her ass just ain't doing the trick and she wants something bigger so she grabs a 16 inch rubber fist and sticks it really deep inside her ass and fucks herself with it....and yes this vile bitch decides to periodically pull the rubber fist out lick it.You can clearly see traces of shit on the fist and her asshole is gaping so wide you could toss a golf ball in her and she wouldn't even notice it.Still soft?I have a hard time calling it softcore at this point.

Sure that's an extreme example but it was just a girl with toy's.I guess it really comes down to the individual scene?

Like I said,it's a toughly.

Dollpix · 2008-12-16, 07:15 PM

The difference between softcore and hardcore adult content is
considered to be the lack or presence of penetration.

p3rlphr33k · 2008-12-16, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollpix

The difference between softcore and hardcore adult content is
considered to be the lack or presence of penetration.

agreed.

Dollpix · 2008-12-16, 09:14 PM

And that means dicks, cocks, machines, toys... etc..

Fonz · 2008-12-17, 06:03 AM

As long as no real flesh gets penetrated it's softcore, so when inserting a frozen steak, it's hardcore

LD · 2008-12-17, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollpix

The difference between softcore and hardcore adult content is
considered to be the lack or presence of penetration.

Something tells me ejaculation would be hard core, even if it didn't penetrate anything...but wtf knows...?

JustRobert · 2008-12-17, 11:23 AM

I agree with UW's quotation from Mr Wiki Pedia and what Dollpix has written as well, but I did not always see it that way.

It was when 2257 reared its ugly head a few years back that I changed. Masturbation with or without toys is considered explicit. Because of that I now view it as hardcore, or at least non softcore. Please speak to your own lawyer in regards to 2257.

Unfortunately if your building and submitting that becomes a different issue, especially if that LL or ??? does not have a masturbation/sex toy category. Most owners that have taken submissions for years (Tommy, Cleo, Fonz) see it as softcore, which is understandable.

Dollpix · 2008-12-17, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz

As long as no real flesh gets penetrated it's softcore, so when inserting a frozen steak, it's hardcore

Or inserting an egg beater, a spatula, or a shifter off of a '57 Chevy!

horndog · 2008-12-18, 07:34 AM

I always thought softcore was just a nude model or even if the model was using a dildo or masturbating, I would still think of that as softcore. Hardcore in my mind means penetration or two people fucking so the clear line I guess would be penetration. But I am not a porn scholar so this is just my opinion.

LD · 2008-12-18, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horndog

But I am not a porn scholar so this is just my opinion.

You inspired me to go to namecheap and try to get the domain "pornscholar (dot) com"...it is taken...

Dollpix · 2008-12-18, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LusciousDelight

You inspired me to go to namecheap and try to get the domain "pornscholar (dot) com"...it is taken...

That's funny right there, no matter who you are!

horndog · 2008-12-19, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LusciousDelight

You inspired me to go to namecheap and try to get the domain "pornscholar (dot) com"...it is taken...

To bad it's already taken!

Dollpix · 2008-12-19, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horndog

To bad it's already taken!

For a price, one could prolly buy it..... but taint worth it.

2008-12-16, 01:06 PM	#1
Kisa Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: East Bay, California Posts: 77	Question about Softcore I was just wondering if someone could give me the clear line between softcore and hardcore, especially concerning solo vids. Thanks-

2008-12-16, 01:10 PM	#2
Dollpix Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 119	as far as I know As far as I know, hardcore is fucking and masturbating, with or without toys. Softcore are nude models doing non of the above. __________________ Tools for Free Sites!

2008-12-16, 01:19 PM	#3
Fonz Former pr0n slinger. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 7,929	I don't consider masturbating with a toy hardcore, but that's just me... __________________ See how I abuse little trees on my Shumi no Bonsai Blog

2008-12-16, 02:25 PM	#7
hashbury My name is hashbury not assburry Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,125	I Dont think there is a perfectly clear line between hard and soft porn. I would count masterbation with a toy as hardcore. Thats just how i see it. Softcore pornography may depict nudity, including exposed breasts, buttocks, and non-graphic representations of male and female genitalia. It may also represent simulated acts of sexual intercourse or masturbation. However, it draws a line at graphic depictions of penetration and other sex acts. __________________ Sig Goes Here!

2008-12-16, 05:29 PM	#8
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	I feel masterbation with a toy is softcore its interesting to see that other webmasters dont think so __________________ Accepting New partners

2008-12-16, 01:20 PM	#4
Kisa Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: East Bay, California Posts: 77	But I read that it can include simulated acts of masturbation and intercourse so what is confusing me are the solo vids of models w/out toys and w/out insertion of any kind.... ???

2008-12-16, 05:33 PM	#9
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Pretty much anything involving only one model including the model with some kind of a toy although if the model's toy is say a chain saw and they are using it to saw cut off their legs then I guess then it would no longer be softcore. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2008-12-16, 05:43 PM	#10
LD wtfwjd? Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,103	Sticking something inside a pussy in a sexual manner is hardcore to me. Rubbing, etc could be hardcore, but softcore if no pink is shown. I tend to think of cable porn as softcore, with hardcore showing real sex that is obviously not simulated. __________________ Artisteer Wordpress Theme Generator Create Custom Themes! My Little Network

2008-12-16, 05:52 PM	#11
Fonz Former pr0n slinger. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 7,929	So right now it's about 50-50 i hope that answers you question Kisa __________________ See how I abuse little trees on my Shumi no Bonsai Blog

2008-12-16, 07:13 PM	#13
Star Man A boy without mischief is like a bowling ball without a liquid center Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: clevel.......don't make me say it! Posts: 436	It's a toughy as far as toy's are concerned.If I reviewed a site with a hot babe fucking herself with a dildo I would label it as softcore content but it really is hardcore and here's why - Say she starts off with a dildo and shes penetrating herself with it.Now the scene progresses and she sticks the dildo deep in her ass and periodically pulls out to lick it.Still softcore? mmmm...I guess. It's now deep into the scene and the dildo in her ass just ain't doing the trick and she wants something bigger so she grabs a 16 inch rubber fist and sticks it really deep inside her ass and fucks herself with it....and yes this vile bitch decides to periodically pull the rubber fist out lick it.You can clearly see traces of shit on the fist and her asshole is gaping so wide you could toss a golf ball in her and she wouldn't even notice it.Still soft?I have a hard time calling it softcore at this point. Sure that's an extreme example but it was just a girl with toy's.I guess it really comes down to the individual scene? Like I said,it's a toughly. __________________ good luck Last edited by Star Man; 2008-12-16 at 07:18 PM..

2008-12-16, 07:15 PM	#14
Dollpix Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 119	S vs H The difference between softcore and hardcore adult content is considered to be the lack or presence of penetration. __________________ Tools for Free Sites!

2008-12-16, 09:14 PM	#16
Dollpix Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 119	and... And that means dicks, cocks, machines, toys... etc.. __________________ Tools for Free Sites!

2008-12-17, 06:03 AM	#17
Fonz Former pr0n slinger. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 7,929	As long as no real flesh gets penetrated it's softcore, so when inserting a frozen steak, it's hardcore __________________ See how I abuse little trees on my Shumi no Bonsai Blog

2008-12-17, 11:23 AM	#19
JustRobert Bow Ties Are Cool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 9,393	I agree with UW's quotation from Mr Wiki Pedia and what Dollpix has written as well, but I did not always see it that way. It was when 2257 reared its ugly head a few years back that I changed. Masturbation with or without toys is considered explicit. Because of that I now view it as hardcore, or at least non softcore. Please speak to your own lawyer in regards to 2257. Unfortunately if your building and submitting that becomes a different issue, especially if that LL or ??? does not have a masturbation/sex toy category. Most owners that have taken submissions for years (Tommy, Cleo, Fonz) see it as softcore, which is understandable. __________________ Submit Your Galleries To The Porn Luv Network!

2008-12-18, 07:34 AM	#21
horndog Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 154	I always thought softcore was just a nude model or even if the model was using a dildo or masturbating, I would still think of that as softcore. Hardcore in my mind means penetration or two people fucking so the clear line I guess would be penetration. But I am not a porn scholar so this is just my opinion.