Katherine Harris: Separation of church and state 'a lie'

[Cleo]

People like this frighten me and I place them in the same class as fanatics that fly planes into buildings.

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"...if you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," she says in interview.

By Jim Stratton
Orlando Sentinel
Posted August 25 2006, 11:30 AM EDT

U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris said this week that the separation of church state is "a lie," that God did not intend for the United States to be a "nation of secular laws" and that a failure to elect Christians to political office will allow lawmaking bodies to "legislate sin."

In an interview with the Florida Baptist Witness, the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention, Harris described her faith, saying it animates "everything I do," including her votes in Congress.



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She warned that if voters do not send Christians to office, they risk creating a government that is doomed to fail.

"If you are not electing Christians, tried and true, under public scrutiny and pressure, if you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," she told interviewers, citing abortion and gay marriage as two examples of that sin.

Doing so, she said, "will take western civilization, indeed other nations because people look to our country as one nation as under God and whenever we legislate sin and we say abortion is permissible and we say gay unions are permissible, then average citizens who are not Christians, because they don't know better, we are leading them astray and it's wrong..."

Harris said that Americans "have internalized" the "lie" that church and state must not be mixed. In reality, she said, "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will.

Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," Harris said. "And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women," then "we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our founding fathers intended and that's (sic) certainly isn't what God intended."

Harris, a Republican from Longboat Key, is running against Orlando attorney Will McBride, retired Adm. LeRoy Collins and developer Peter Monroe in the GOP Senate primary. McBride and Collins also did interviews with Florida Baptist Witness. Monroe did not.

Both Collins and McBride, a lay minister and son of a pastor, say their faith is an important part of their lives, but Harris' responses most directly tie her role as a policy maker to her religious beliefs.

[eman]

God save us from religious fanatics!

[Jim]

Besides fixing the election in 2000, she isn't going to do anything. Her own party has asked her to stop campaigning. You would think being the person behind stealing the election from Gore would get her points with these cocksuckers but, I guess even they draw the line someplace.

[Torn Rose]

She’s desperate and grabbing what few straws she has left, she is going to lose not only the primary on 9/5, but the $10 million her dad left her.


Bummer.....

[Tart]

Absolutely agree with the fanatic part (and intolerent as most "Christians" in this area are.. something I don't remember in the new testament). I have some relatives who send their kids to a private baptist school and they are so brainwashed it is depressing. Makes me that much more determined to raise my kids to think for themselves.

Oh and don't forget Tom Gallagher.. the guy who became a born-again Christian after admitting he smoked dope and cheated on his wife. Of course, the christians LOVE him now that he's "seen the light"

[Torn Rose]

Originally Posted by Tart

Oh and don't forget Tom Gallagher.. the guy who became a born-again Christian after admitting he smoked dope and cheated on his wife. Of course, the christians LOVE him now that he's "seen the light"

lol... yeah this guy is a classic one... He's throwing more mud then all the others combined and has a real hard on for fellow GOP candidate Crist who I think will win the GOP and odds are FL.

[SirMoby]

What a sick woman. I hope she gets help one day but she'll probably start working for Tom Delay.

[Linkster]

Too bad she forgot to mention that the "one nation under god" got added in to everything in the 1950s - about the time the John Birch Society was extremely active in her parts (and she does have some good parts) - seen the pics of her riding a horse in a way too tight top?

[Erick G]

Time to take this country back.

[docholly]

What do you expect from someone in a state where has come back and reincarnated himself as a Puerto Rican living in a multimillion dollar house in Miami??

http://www.growingingracespanish.com/apostle/

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

[Mr. Blue]

She's always scared the crap out of me. Completely weird in every sense of the word.

[sue-fl]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

She's always scared the crap out of me. Completely weird in every sense of the word.

I agree Mr Blue, just look at her when she talks you can tell she's not all there. She's been a crook since she first took over the Florida Lottery. I also think she's doomed....

[Torn Rose]

Here is some “what if” wishful thinking…

The GOP refused to endorse this nut job, and she used all of the $10 million her dad left her to run a doomed campaign and when she loses the primary by double digits in 10 days…

WHAT IF she snaps and realizes how she was left out to dry by the party she put in power and finally tells the whole truth in regards to 2000 as revenge?

[spacemanspiff]

I just want to pull my hair out and light myself of fire when I hear people spouting God's Will. That nutjob doesn't know what God's Will is. As a matter of fact, I ran into God the other day at the Stop and Go. He was getting a chili dog and a diet coke (ha) and I asked him about it. His response:

"That bitch is wack yo! I don't care what ya'll do wit cho laws and shit. I gave you mo-fo's free will, so if you screw it up, don't go blaming it on me. The only thing I ever told you was Be excellent to each other. Everything else was made up by you dumb fucks."

Then he asked me where he could score some blow. Of course that may not have been the same God as Katherine was talking about. There are so many Gods it's hard to keep track.

[spacemanspiff]

Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," Harris said. "And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women," then "we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our founding fathers intended and that's (sic) certainly isn't what God intended."

http://skeptically.org/thinkersonreligion/id9.html

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by spacemanspiff

I just want to pull my hair out and light myself of fire when I hear people spouting God's Will. That nutjob doesn't know what God's Will is. As a matter of fact, I ran into God the other day at the Stop and Go. He was getting a chili dog and a diet coke (ha) and I asked him about it. His response:

"That bitch is wack yo! I don't care what ya'll do wit cho laws and shit. I gave you mo-fo's free will, so if you screw it up, don't go blaming it on me. The only thing I ever told you was Be excellent to each other. Everything else was made up by you dumb fucks."

Then he asked me where he could score some blow. Of course that may not have been the same God as Katherine was talking about. There are so many Gods it's hard to keep track.

[virgohippy]

Originally Posted by spacemanspiff

Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," Harris said. "And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women," then "we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our founding fathers intended and that's (sic) certainly isn't what God intended."

The logic just kills me:

God chooses our rules for us because God wants us to be religous. Therefore, we should choose religious rulers so we can be religious...

What does it take to convince someone they're insane?

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by sue-fl

I agree Mr Blue, just look at her when she talks you can tell she's not all there. She's been a crook since she first took over the Florida Lottery. I also think she's doomed....

LOL, honestly one look at her and you think "Prozac - Please take some"...she doesn't even have to open her mouth for you to realize she's a headcase.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by virgohippy

The logic just kills me:
God chooses our rules for us because God wants us to be religous. Therefore, we should choose religious rulers so we can be religious...

Whenever someone tries to convince me that their god needs our help, I sort of figure their god must be some kind of real pansy wimp, giving us free will just so he can shirk the responsibilty that comes with really being all-powerful, and then continue to nag us via his 'representatives on earth' in some passive-aggresive attempt to conceal his actual impotence.

...but that's just me.

[virgohippy]

Originally Posted by Simon

Whenever someone tries to convince me that their god needs our help, I sort of figure their god must be some kind of real pansy wimp, giving us free will just so he can shirk the responsibilty that comes with really being all-powerful, and then continue to nag us via his 'representatives on earth' in some passive-aggresive attempt to conceal his actual impotence.

...but that's just me.

LOL! That's a brilliant connection, Simon!

[Tommy]

Harris, 49, faced widespread criticism for her role overseeing the 2000 presidential recount as Florida's secretary of state.

State GOP leaders _ including Gov. Jeb Bush _ don't think she can win against Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson in November. Fundraising has lagged, frustrated campaign workers have defected in droves and the issues have been overshadowed by news of her dealings with a corrupt defense contractor who gave her $32,000 in illegal campaign

more of the same from the C.C.C.
(Crooked Christian Conservatives)

you live the way my god tells you to live........ but that never applies to them

[ponygirl]

Originally Posted by Tommy

you live the way my god tells you to live........ but that never applies to them

but you see - it's ok if you're doing it in God's name, to further God's work.

not that we're much better here, but what a bunch of hypocrites