Server questions

cam-amateurz · 2005-03-02, 08:36 PM

I have a duel 40 server running 2000 server. I have a broad band conection threw roadrunner.

how much tgp bandwidth could it traffic threw with out having the major tgps and mgps denigh me because the load times are two slow.

And as far as my eathernet card goes would a 10/100mbs card work or would i need a bigger eathernet card do tehy make them at say 100/1000mbs.

Any help would be nice as you can prabally tell i dont no to much about it.

chilihost · 2005-03-02, 08:54 PM

do not try to run a porn site from your broadband connection!!! first off, it probably violates your ISPs t&c. Secondly, you are prolly hooked up with a limited connection (upload speeds are typically a lot slower than download speeds, this is because the average surfer wants fast downloads when they surf) which would make your server very very slow and not able to handle the traffic. Finally you would be introducing a HUGE security risk to your own server unless you know how to manage things properly. Its just not worth it and it just won't work that well! Oh, and dont even get me started on using a win server on the internet, unless you know what you are doing win servers are extremely easy to hack and bring down.

Go get a cheap hosting plan, lots of places will give you starter hosting packages for $25 a month or less and that will give you WAY more bandwidth, security and server responsiveness. Plus you won't have to stress about being shut off by your ISP.

cheers,
Luke

cam-amateurz · 2005-03-02, 09:03 PM

Thanks luke for your reply apreciate it.

I understand the security stuff about protecting a members area. Im not doing that i jsut using it for a tgp posting and mpg posting. IF i went with a dsl plan where they offer the static ip address how much upload would i need to suport a gallerys on the major tgps each day?

or am i still thinking fucked up?

cd34 · 2005-03-02, 09:14 PM

I think what he was saying, which is usually the case is that your DSL or cable connection will normally have something like 256kb upstream, 1500kb/sec-4096kb/sec downstream.

This means that no matter what, one person downloading from your connection will easily max your upload capacity. They will only be able to download from your site as quickly as you can upload to a webserver.

Second, the security issues with running a windows based webserver are more than just protecting members areas. While you could run Apache and php & mysql, unless you know how to lock things down completely, you can run into problems. Even some of the larger IIS hosting companies have problems securing windows servers from time to time.

Besides the fact that one day, your DSL provider could just snip your line for violating the Terms of Service, I believe in 99% of the T&C for broadband providers is a provision for not running servers. I don't think they care about the guy running a few pageviews/day -- but, hosting galleries will easily get caught and probably clipped quite quickly.

With server/bandwidth prices where they are, buy yourself a cheap box somewhere.

RawAlex · 2005-03-02, 09:19 PM

More importantly, if you are doing that sort of thing and get your line cut off, it is much harder to every get service back. You could end up very quickly doomed to dialup only for the rest of your days at that address.

Servers are NOT expensive, bandwidth isn't a major deal anymore either. Either get serious and make it a business or give it up. Playing around like you are doing will just get you burned.

Alex

cam-amateurz · 2005-03-02, 09:22 PM

Thanks for the information apreciate it.
Other information sugestions or comments would be nice too

Need to catch up on the learning curve

cam-amateurz · 2005-03-02, 09:24 PM

Thanks alex

chilihost · 2005-03-02, 11:40 PM

Yes, like cd34 explained, I was talking about security in the sense of hardening your server to hackers and evil do'ers, without losing functionality or speed. If you do not know about how to run a server, I would highly suggest you signup for a managed plan, this will save you a lot of headaches and prolly a lot of downtime too. For starting a TGP you would not need a dedicated server unless you were also planning on submitting galleries off that server as well...or unless you can get yourself to the 50-100K visitors daily point rather quickly!

I don't feel like turning this into a sales pitch, so if you want to discuss your specific needs please hit me up on icq 118860760 or email sales@chilihost.com.

cheers,
Luke

raymor · 2005-03-03, 07:45 AM

Yeah you don't run porn sites on DSL
or on Winblows. That'd be like running a
taxi service with a skateboard.
Luke at chilihost posted,
he'll set up right.
If you really needed full control over your own
server you could get a server at EV1 with
1,000 times the bandwidth you'd get from DSL
for close to $100 / month.
However, if your plan was to use Windows and
DSL than that pretty well proves that you
absolutely positively have no business running
your own server and should get someone like
Luke to take care of that for you.

2005-03-02, 08:36 PM	#1
cam-amateurz A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: wisconsin Posts: 56	Server questions I have a duel 40 server running 2000 server. I have a broad band conection threw roadrunner. how much tgp bandwidth could it traffic threw with out having the major tgps and mgps denigh me because the load times are two slow. And as far as my eathernet card goes would a 10/100mbs card work or would i need a bigger eathernet card do tehy make them at say 100/1000mbs. Any help would be nice as you can prabally tell i dont no to much about it. __________________ <a href="http://www.jdsfilms.com/webmasters.asp">Submit your sites.</a>

2005-03-02, 08:54 PM	#2
chilihost Look at 'em. Watchin' my TV. Sittin on my couch. You better not be in my ass groove! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 465	do not try to run a porn site from your broadband connection!!! first off, it probably violates your ISPs t&c. Secondly, you are prolly hooked up with a limited connection (upload speeds are typically a lot slower than download speeds, this is because the average surfer wants fast downloads when they surf) which would make your server very very slow and not able to handle the traffic. Finally you would be introducing a HUGE security risk to your own server unless you know how to manage things properly. Its just not worth it and it just won't work that well! Oh, and dont even get me started on using a win server on the internet, unless you know what you are doing win servers are extremely easy to hack and bring down. Go get a cheap hosting plan, lots of places will give you starter hosting packages for $25 a month or less and that will give you WAY more bandwidth, security and server responsiveness. Plus you won't have to stress about being shut off by your ISP. cheers, Luke __________________ HunkMoney+BritishBucks+LatinoBucks=50+ gay sites!

2005-03-02, 09:03 PM	#3
cam-amateurz A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: wisconsin Posts: 56	reply to luke Thanks luke for your reply apreciate it. I understand the security stuff about protecting a members area. Im not doing that i jsut using it for a tgp posting and mpg posting. IF i went with a dsl plan where they offer the static ip address how much upload would i need to suport a gallerys on the major tgps each day? or am i still thinking fucked up? __________________ <a href="http://www.jdsfilms.com/webmasters.asp">Submit your sites.</a>

2005-03-02, 09:14 PM	#4
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	I think what he was saying, which is usually the case is that your DSL or cable connection will normally have something like 256kb upstream, 1500kb/sec-4096kb/sec downstream. This means that no matter what, one person downloading from your connection will easily max your upload capacity. They will only be able to download from your site as quickly as you can upload to a webserver. Second, the security issues with running a windows based webserver are more than just protecting members areas. While you could run Apache and php & mysql, unless you know how to lock things down completely, you can run into problems. Even some of the larger IIS hosting companies have problems securing windows servers from time to time. Besides the fact that one day, your DSL provider could just snip your line for violating the Terms of Service, I believe in 99% of the T&C for broadband providers is a provision for not running servers. I don't think they care about the guy running a few pageviews/day -- but, hosting galleries will easily get caught and probably clipped quite quickly. With server/bandwidth prices where they are, buy yourself a cheap box somewhere. __________________ SnapReplay.com a different way to share photos - iPhone & Android

2005-03-02, 09:22 PM	#6
cam-amateurz A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: wisconsin Posts: 56	Thanks for the information apreciate it. Other information sugestions or comments would be nice too Need to catch up on the learning curve __________________ <a href="http://www.jdsfilms.com/webmasters.asp">Submit your sites.</a>

2005-03-02, 09:19 PM	#5
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	More importantly, if you are doing that sort of thing and get your line cut off, it is much harder to every get service back. You could end up very quickly doomed to dialup only for the rest of your days at that address. Servers are NOT expensive, bandwidth isn't a major deal anymore either. Either get serious and make it a business or give it up. Playing around like you are doing will just get you burned. Alex

2005-03-02, 09:24 PM	#7
cam-amateurz A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: wisconsin Posts: 56	Thanks alex Thanks alex __________________ <a href="http://www.jdsfilms.com/webmasters.asp">Submit your sites.</a>

2005-03-02, 11:40 PM	#8
chilihost Look at 'em. Watchin' my TV. Sittin on my couch. You better not be in my ass groove! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 465	Yes, like cd34 explained, I was talking about security in the sense of hardening your server to hackers and evil do'ers, without losing functionality or speed. If you do not know about how to run a server, I would highly suggest you signup for a managed plan, this will save you a lot of headaches and prolly a lot of downtime too. For starting a TGP you would not need a dedicated server unless you were also planning on submitting galleries off that server as well...or unless you can get yourself to the 50-100K visitors daily point rather quickly! I don't feel like turning this into a sales pitch, so if you want to discuss your specific needs please hit me up on icq 118860760 or email sales@chilihost.com. cheers, Luke __________________ HunkMoney+BritishBucks+LatinoBucks=50+ gay sites!

2005-03-03, 07:45 AM	#9
raymor The only guys who wear Hawaiian shirts are gay guys and big fat party animals Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 178	Yeah you don't run porn sites on DSL or on Winblows. That'd be like running a taxi service with a skateboard. Luke at chilihost posted, he'll set up right. If you really needed full control over your own server you could get a server at EV1 with 1,000 times the bandwidth you'd get from DSL for close to $100 / month. However, if your plan was to use Windows and DSL than that pretty well proves that you absolutely positively have no business running your own server and should get someone like Luke to take care of that for you. __________________ Ray Morris support@bettercgi.com Strongbox/Throttlebox & more TXDPS #A14012