Whats the point of PR?

Brav · 2004-01-10, 12:48 AM

I have many sites and pages rankin anywhere from PR 4 up to PR 6. Yet I have found no benefit except to be able to say I have PR 4 to PR 6 rankings. PR has not altered the rankin in the SE's, has not improved in traffic recieved, so what does it do?

I have pages with no PR that recieve more SE traffic then pages with PR 4 and higher, so I am baffled as to the importance of this.

The reason I ask is because I have been rejected for link trades because the site I was finding trades for didn't have a high enough PR.

Anyone want to enlighten a long-time Newbie?

Regards
Brav

Cleo · 2004-01-10, 08:34 AM

IMHO about all PR is good for is inflating the egos of site owners.

mist · 2004-01-10, 08:51 AM

What I can understand from this page, http://www.google.com/technology/index.html all it does is to check how many important in links and then assign the page a rank depending on that.

But, there seems to be no advantage from having a high PR regarding to get traffic from Google, but maybe they someday will take the PR in calculation, who knows?

fraggle · 2004-01-10, 10:11 AM

page rank in isolation doesn't mean you will get a load of traffic

Optimised page for traffic benefit from having good page rank

How you work page rank through your site is important (i.e.: filtering it through various pages using good internal linking strategy)

The relevance of links is important too - the link text and relevance of the page you get linked from

Ramster · 2004-01-10, 12:59 PM

High PR will get spidered by google more often so do with that what you want.

Brav · 2004-01-10, 01:26 PM

Getting spidered more often is a good enough benefit for me. Would it also be safe to assume that if if I made 2 identical pages optimized for the same search term, the one with the higher PR would be listed higher in the search results?

fraggle · 2004-01-11, 07:42 AM

yeah but new pages get an initial boost now too.

if your index has good PR you can always filter this across to internal, optimised pages then they'll inherit pr get spidered fast and pull i traffic from there.

RawAlex · 2004-01-11, 09:02 PM

I think the goal is PR4. At that point, Googlebot tends to show you more love, visits more often, caches your page more often, and as a result, looks at pages you have linked from that page more often.

I have seen PR0 sites with good SERPS, PR5 sites with no traffic.

Take it for all it is worth.

Alex

Surfn · 2004-01-11, 09:06 PM

I don't pay that much attention to google PR. I have sites with PR rankings for pages from 3-5 on the same site. All I care about from google is traffic

eatapeach · 2004-01-12, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ramster
High PR will get spidered by google more often so do with that what you want.

i think this is the main benefit of pr besides the ego thing.

for instance, i have a pr5 site and a site with a pr4. they have about the same number of pages, optimized about the same. even though the pr5 site is newer than the pr4 it has 2 1/2 times as many pages spidered and indexed.

i also think that by paying special attention to the way you link internally and externally on your sites you can maximize the amount of pr you distribute.

take it easy,
michael

fraggle · 2004-01-12, 07:21 PM

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i also think that by paying special attention to the way you link internally and externally on your sites you can maximize the amount of pr you distribute.

This is very important...
also asides the ego thing if you have a high PR index, you can filter the PR through your site and maintain deep pages with a high PR meaning you can link off these to other sites (having opimised all pages for different term - you will benefit greatly from this). Its like building SE niched hubs

2004-01-10, 12:48 AM	#1
Brav Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 158	Whats the point of PR? I have many sites and pages rankin anywhere from PR 4 up to PR 6. Yet I have found no benefit except to be able to say I have PR 4 to PR 6 rankings. PR has not altered the rankin in the SE's, has not improved in traffic recieved, so what does it do? I have pages with no PR that recieve more SE traffic then pages with PR 4 and higher, so I am baffled as to the importance of this. The reason I ask is because I have been rejected for link trades because the site I was finding trades for didn't have a high enough PR. Anyone want to enlighten a long-time Newbie? Regards Brav __________________ <a href="http://www.thewebmastersrealm.com"> The Webmasters Realm</a>

2004-01-10, 08:34 AM	#2
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2004-01-10, 10:11 AM	#4
fraggle WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 44	page rank in isolation doesn't mean you will get a load of traffic Optimised page for traffic benefit from having good page rank How you work page rank through your site is important (i.e.: filtering it through various pages using good internal linking strategy) The relevance of links is important too - the link text and relevance of the page you get linked from __________________ ICQ:166-253-997 tim at ammediainc.com PerversionPays.com in testing, check it out

2004-01-10, 12:59 PM	#5
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,696	High PR will get spidered by google more often so do with that what you want. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2004-01-10, 01:26 PM	#6
Brav Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 158	Getting spidered more often is a good enough benefit for me. Would it also be safe to assume that if if I made 2 identical pages optimized for the same search term, the one with the higher PR would be listed higher in the search results? __________________ <a href="http://www.thewebmastersrealm.com"> The Webmasters Realm</a>

2004-01-10, 08:51 AM	#3
mist Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: EU Posts: 214	What I can understand from this page, http://www.google.com/technology/index.html all it does is to check how many important in links and then assign the page a rank depending on that. But, there seems to be no advantage from having a high PR regarding to get traffic from Google, but maybe they someday will take the PR in calculation, who knows?

2004-01-11, 07:42 AM	#7
fraggle WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 44	yeah but new pages get an initial boost now too. if your index has good PR you can always filter this across to internal, optimised pages then they'll inherit pr get spidered fast and pull i traffic from there. __________________ ICQ:166-253-997 tim at ammediainc.com PerversionPays.com in testing, check it out

2004-01-11, 09:02 PM	#8
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I think the goal is PR4. At that point, Googlebot tends to show you more love, visits more often, caches your page more often, and as a result, looks at pages you have linked from that page more often. I have seen PR0 sites with good SERPS, PR5 sites with no traffic. Take it for all it is worth. Alex

2004-01-11, 09:06 PM	#9
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I don't pay that much attention to google PR. I have sites with PR rankings for pages from 3-5 on the same site. All I care about from google is traffic