Join price in link texts?

OneWhoKnows · 2007-01-25, 05:31 AM

Hey everyone!

Just got a plain and simple question this time. Is it allowed to mention the join price of a site I link to on my freesites, for example if they have a cheap trial something like "Get instant access to all of her pics for only $3.95"? Or would this be a reason for a decline at LL's?

PS: And do you think it's worth trying anywayz?

OneWhoKnows · 2007-01-25, 05:59 AM

Damn, looks like I need new glasses

Could someone please move this thread to "Link Lists & Getting Listed"? Thanks!

JackDaniel's · 2007-01-25, 06:18 AM

As long as it isn't a blind link I don't see a reason for a decline.

Many webmasters include the price in their text links

Lemmy · 2007-01-25, 06:27 AM

No reason to decline here. I've tried with and w/o including trial price with no discernible difference in clicks.

ladydesigner · 2007-01-25, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemmy

No reason to decline here. I've tried with and w/o including trial price with no discernible difference in clicks.

Same here.

On a side note, make sure the link isn't blind (I would consider the example you provided blind) and you'll be fine.

Fonz · 2007-01-25, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemmy

No reason to decline here. I've tried with and w/o including trial price with no discernible difference in clicks.

Hmmm... I always thought this would give you less but more productive clicks. I guess that's why testing was invented

Jim · 2007-01-25, 09:11 AM

Nothing to do with getting listed but you also have to make sure that the program you are using has no problem with mentioning the price in a link. Not sure if they still do but Flashcash used to have a rule against it. Only because they changed the price from time to time.

MrYum · 2007-01-25, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim

Nothing to do with getting listed but you also have to make sure that the program you are using has no problem with mentioning the price in a link. Not sure if they still do but Flashcash used to have a rule against it. Only because they changed the price from time to time.

Trial price changes were one of the main reasons I stopped including trial prices a long time ago.

When I did include price, didn't notice any difference in conversions...though clicks were a bit lower.

KG Gary · 2007-01-25, 10:10 AM

I sometimes mention a trial price, but I haven't noticed any real difference in conversions.
I have had to go back once or twice to change a few freesites due to price changes or special offers running out, so be careful.

I'm starting to think that the only thing that really makes a noticable difference in income when bulding freesites is:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Lots of people, especialy newer webmasters get caught up on these silly theories that so-called experts love to throw around.... when in truth most of the fundametals are exactly the same..as they have always been.

Build
Build often
Keep building
Build some more
Link some shit together
Build
Link with someone elses shit
Build some more.....
.. and repeat

Believe me, no one ever got rich off exit links, and nofollow tags.... Lot of people got rich by building continuously..

...exacly as DangerDave says.

ronnie · 2007-01-25, 07:07 PM

Ya, putting in prices could make for lots of work in the future. I remember back some time when so many programs switchd from free to trial, SO many pages to change..

Licker4U · 2007-01-25, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows

"Get instant access to all of her pics for only $3.95"?

How is that blind?

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Originally Posted by ladydesigner

Same here.

On a side note, make sure the link isn't blind (I would consider the example you provided blind) and you'll be fine.

The surfer is told they will have to pay $3.95 to access all the pics. That's pretty straight up to me. |confused|

dareutwo · 2007-01-26, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U

How is that blind?
The surfer is told they will have to pay $3.95 to access all the pics. That's pretty straight up to me. |confused|

Where? Billy Bob's having fun with corn again?, or a sponsor site?

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KG Gary · 2007-01-26, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U

How is that blind?
The surfer is told they will have to pay $3.95 to access all the pics. That's pretty straight up to me. |confused|

To build on dareutwo's point...
The link tells the surfer what he gets, but NOT where he's going, thus it can be considered blind.

Licker4U · 2007-01-26, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dareutwo

Where? Billy Bob's having fun with corn again?, or a sponsor site?

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No, not Billy Bob but the place where you pay $3.95 to get access to all her pics.

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Originally Posted by KG Gary

To build on dareutwo's point...
The link tells the surfer what he gets, but NOT where he's going, thus it can be considered blind.

That's not telling the surfer where he's going? A site where he will have to pay to see her pics?

KG Gary · 2007-01-26, 04:51 AM

Not really, at least not in the eyes of a crazy-freesite-hardened reviewer.

It tells him he's going to A site but not the name of the site.
Some reviewers may let it slide but others want to see the name there every time, hence dareutwo's at, AT, @ comment.

Licker4U · 2007-01-26, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KG Gary

Not really, at least not in the eyes of a crazy-freesite-hardened reviewer.

It tells him he's going to A site but not the name of the site.
Some reviewers may let it slide but others want to see the name there every time, hence dareutwo's at, AT, @ comment.

I guess it's semantics. Why does the name of the site matter? A site where you pay is a site where you pay to get what you want. Remember, he's already said "to get all of HER pics" so the surfer knows he's going to get her pics and not going to a site for Viagara, discount air fares, etc.

OneWhoKnows · 2007-01-26, 07:39 AM

Thanks for all your replies so far ppl! Very helpful. I guess I'll leave out the price because of a lot of future work and your experiences that it didn't make much difference. Plus the certain sponsor I wanted to promote with such a freesite has geo-targeted billing, so people with an IP from within the EU will be billed in EUR, so the link would be really kind of misleading.

But about the "blind link" discussion... I don't see why that could be considered as blind aswell, and I actually find it really stupid to repeat the name of the promoted site over and over again - especially when the surfer probably doesn't even bother. But anwayz, you really made me think about that. Could someone please have a look at this freesite I want to submit today? I made a banner on my own for the first time (see thread about banners on the warning page) and I used the text "Wanna see all of her uncensored pictures right now?" together with "GET INSTANT ACCESS HERE" in the banner. Is that OK on the index page or would you already consider this blind/misleading? If you think it is a blind link, what kind of text referring to the girl's picture would you use? I don't want to just type some of the site features all the time, because this probably won't attract anyone to signup instantly, but that's what a entry page banner should do.

URL: http://www.russianrealitysites.com/f...orteenquickie/

ladydesigner · 2007-01-26, 09:00 AM

I wouldn't have a problem with that banner because the text directly under it has the paysite name. I guess though that I'm one of those "crazy-freesite-hardened reviewers" that KG Gary mentioned because I seem to be a bit of a blind link nazi.

Lemmy · 2007-01-26, 09:03 AM

I agree with Licker4You on this one. A statement that something costs money, that you'll have to whip out the CC to get access to the goodies, pretty much "un-blinds" any link to me even if the site name isn't specifically mentioned. "Get access to all her pics for only $3.95" works just fine.

Conversely it's possible to technically work in the name of a paysite in a link and it remains blind. "Click Here To Watch Bushy Beavers" (where bushybeavers.com is a paysite) just sounds like an invitation to look at some hairy pussy pics. I see a lot of this lately, and to me it's just sneaky.

ladydesigner · 2007-01-26, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemmy

I agree with Licker4You on this one. A statement that something costs money, that you'll have to whip out the CC to get access to the goodies, pretty much "un-blinds" any link to me even if the site name isn't specifically mentioned. "Get access to all her pics for only $3.95" works just fine.

I'm going to politely disagree with you here Lemmy.

Even though the price is mentioned in the link (which clearly tells the surfer they'll have to pay if they click), where's that text link go?? Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me and I'll be proved wrong and make adjustments on what sites I decline for blind links.

Useless · 2007-01-26, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ladydesigner

Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me and I'll be proved wrong and make adjustments on what sites I decline for blind links.

I think you're nuts. Would that be considered proof?

Honestly, some you ask too much from text links. I would almost expect to see a list of 2 or 3 acceptable text links, which your submitters must use, displayed on your submit page. I blame MadMax for most of this blind link insanity. Where is he, damn it?

Lemmy · 2007-01-26, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ladydesigner

I'm going to politely disagree with you here Lemmy.

Even though the price is mentioned in the link (which clearly tells the surfer they'll have to pay if they click), where's that text link go?? Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me and I'll be proved wrong and make adjustments on what sites I decline for blind links.

Hey LD

I don't think there's a right and a wrong here, different folks, different strokes, that's all.

Personally I'm fine if I think any reasonable surfer should understand that the link takes them to a place where they're expected to pay to see more. Of course that's a subjective judement, and on my LLs I'm the one who makes it, so submitters shouldn't push their luck.

My "nazi-ness" when it comes to blind links goes in waves. While I used to be a stickler for technicalities I'm much more concerned with sneakyness these days. If I feel the link is intentionally deceptive the site is out, regardless of whether it technically adheres to the rules.

All this said, I tend to play it safe with my own sites. I always include such terms as "Get Full Access to...:, "Click Here For a FREE Tour" or "CLICK TO JOIN" etc. etc. while including the paysite name either in the link itself or in supporting text.

JackDaniel's · 2007-01-26, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I blame MadMax for most of this blind link insanity. Where is he, damn it?

You mean this one ? http://greenguysboard.com/board/show...ht=blind+links

Preacher · 2007-01-26, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemmy

I agree with Licker4You on this one. A statement that something costs money, that you'll have to whip out the CC to get access to the goodies, pretty much "un-blinds" any link to me even if the site name isn't specifically mentioned. "Get access to all her pics for only $3.95" works just fine.

I agree 100%

If it costs them something, it costs them something... To me it doesn't matter where it costs them something.

biztro · 2007-01-26, 12:00 PM

No problem for me, makes the link even more "non-blind"

2007-01-25, 05:31 AM	#1
OneWhoKnows Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 29	Join price in link texts? Hey everyone! Just got a plain and simple question this time. Is it allowed to mention the join price of a site I link to on my freesites, for example if they have a cheap trial something like "Get instant access to all of her pics for only $3.95"? Or would this be a reason for a decline at LL's? PS: And do you think it's worth trying anywayz? __________________

2007-01-25, 05:59 AM	#2
OneWhoKnows Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 29	Damn, looks like I need new glasses Could someone please move this thread to "Link Lists & Getting Listed"? Thanks! __________________

2007-01-25, 06:18 AM	#3
JackDaniel's I like work, it fascinates me, I can sit and look at it for hours... Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,217	As long as it isn't a blind link I don't see a reason for a decline. Many webmasters include the price in their text links __________________ Submit Your Sites : Get Porn Links

2007-01-25, 06:27 AM	#4
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	No reason to decline here. I've tried with and w/o including trial price with no discernible difference in clicks. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2007-01-26, 04:51 AM	#15
KG Gary I can now put whatever I want in this space Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South East UK Posts: 744	Not really, at least not in the eyes of a crazy-freesite-hardened reviewer. It tells him he's going to A site but not the *name* of the site. Some reviewers may let it slide but others want to see the name there every time, hence dareutwo's at, AT, @ comment. __________________ Sponsors that used to convert with freesites Over 700 clean freesites

2007-01-25, 09:11 AM	#7
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Nothing to do with getting listed but you also have to make sure that the program you are using has no problem with mentioning the price in a link. Not sure if they still do but Flashcash used to have a rule against it. Only because they changed the price from time to time.

2007-01-25, 07:07 PM	#10
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	Ya, putting in prices could make for lots of work in the future. I remember back some time when so many programs switchd from free to trial, SO many pages to change..

2007-01-26, 07:39 AM	#17
OneWhoKnows Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 29	Thanks for all your replies so far ppl! Very helpful. I guess I'll leave out the price because of a lot of future work and your experiences that it didn't make much difference. Plus the certain sponsor I wanted to promote with such a freesite has geo-targeted billing, so people with an IP from within the EU will be billed in EUR, so the link would be really kind of misleading. But about the "blind link" discussion... I don't see why that could be considered as blind aswell, and I actually find it really stupid to repeat the name of the promoted site over and over again - especially when the surfer probably doesn't even bother. But anwayz, you really made me think about that. Could someone please have a look at this freesite I want to submit today? I made a banner on my own for the first time (see thread about banners on the warning page) and I used the text "Wanna see all of her uncensored pictures right now?" together with "GET INSTANT ACCESS HERE" in the banner. Is that OK on the index page or would you already consider this blind/misleading? If you think it is a blind link, what kind of text referring to the girl's picture would you use? I don't want to just type some of the site features all the time, because this probably won't attract anyone to signup instantly, but that's what a entry page banner should do. URL: http://www.russianrealitysites.com/f...orteenquickie/ __________________

2007-01-26, 09:00 AM	#18
ladydesigner ~Serving Up Sinful Sex ~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missouri City, Texas Posts: 1,928	I wouldn't have a problem with that banner because the text directly under it has the paysite name. I guess though that I'm one of those "crazy-freesite-hardened reviewers" that KG Gary mentioned because I seem to be a bit of a blind link nazi. __________________ Porn Pixie XxX ~ Looking for Link Trades

2007-01-26, 09:03 AM	#19
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	I agree with Licker4You on this one. A statement that something costs money, that you'll have to whip out the CC to get access to the goodies, pretty much "un-blinds" any link to me even if the site name isn't specifically mentioned. "Get access to all her pics for only $3.95" works just fine. Conversely it's possible to technically work in the name of a paysite in a link and it remains blind. "Click Here To Watch Bushy Beavers" (where bushybeavers.com is a paysite) just sounds like an invitation to look at some hairy pussy pics. I see a lot of this lately, and to me it's just sneaky. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2007-01-26, 12:00 PM	#25
biztro Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 71	No problem for me, makes the link even more "non-blind" __________________ Franks XXX Links Jacks XXX Links Pams Sex Links Zacks Porn Links