Gay Traffic Advice

xxxjay · 2004-01-20, 01:51 PM

Are there any gay webmaster that can help me out with this:

My gay links section has grown so large that I am thinking of breaking it down some so it can be a better experience for the surfer. Ok, so say I was going to take my gays links and break them like 5 ways...what do you think the 5 best subcategories would be?

Also, does anyone have any sponsor advice for niche specific gay stuff?

urb · 2004-01-20, 01:57 PM

I am not a "gay webmaster" but you might wanna try...

Hunks
Hardcore
Twinks
Bears
Fetish

Greenguy · 2004-01-20, 02:15 PM

Oddly enough, you can use most of the straight niches in the gay categories.

I'd say this list will give you some good ideas

Amateur
Asian
Anal
Black
Bondage
Chubbies
Big Cocks
Cumshots
Bears
Fetish
Hardcore
Hunks
International
Latin
Mature
Movies
Muscle
Porn Stars
Softcore
Uniforms
Voyeur
Twinks

2004-01-20, 02:19 PM

Yes, breaking it down into sections would be better.

I suggest the following categories:

Amatuer Guys
Asian Men
Latino Men
Black men
BDSM
Bears
Hunks
Twinks
Uniforms

I have gay sponsors listed with galleries provided by each sponsor or you can just sign up and get the links your self.. See my signature..

urb · 2004-01-20, 02:44 PM

Like I said, I'm not a "gay webmaster" ....... I may be a "schizo webmaster"

but I think if you wanna narrow this down to 5 categories, then see if you can find good solid sponsors with hosted galleries/sites which are gay niche specific, like "Bears" for example. A general gay sponsor will be harder to convert than a specific gay niche one.

Does that make sense?

XPorn · 2004-01-20, 04:01 PM

Obviously check GG&Js sponsor list first....but I use one that isn't listed right now.

I just ICQed Jay with this link....but here it is for anyone else.
They are one of the top gay sites out there right now. Converts pretty good for me...since I know nothing about gay niche...I use them as a good catch all.

BlueLoot

XPorn

xxxjay · 2004-01-20, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urb
I am not a "gay webmaster"

Me neither - LOL - I'm also a webmaster that does not like leaving money on the table.

Thanks for the lists everyone - gives me something to work off of.

jhussher · 2004-01-20, 04:11 PM

I agree with Greenguy's list of categories. I wouldn't bother with "Hardcore" because it is almost meaningless. I specialize in gay ebony/interracial myself. Ethnic gay sites seem to be doing well, I just started a GayBoysofIndia and GayArabBoys sites and am getting traffic.

BlueLoot only has 2 sites that I can see and they are pretty generic gay sites.

James
http://blackhotboyTGP.com

Nickname · 2004-01-21, 07:33 AM

im neither a gay webmaster

but i do own a gay domain and 1 gay niche that seems to convert good for me is "gay bigcock"
also gay movies convert good!

xxxjay · 2004-01-21, 11:47 AM

cool - thanks for the advice

lol - this cracks me up how every webmaster has to state that they are not gay

i've had people hit me on icq that all said the same thing - hilarious

2004-01-21, 01:53 PM

I'm not straight, but, I'm Gay!!

urb · 2004-01-22, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
lol - this cracks me up how every webmaster has to state that they are not gay

Straight men always do that for some reason.

As for me, I am a straight guy who also does not like to leave money on the table.

Cruise Patrol used to be a big money spinner for me, until I removed my htaccess selective redirect after the Florida update.

Greenguy · 2004-01-22, 06:57 AM

"No, we're not homosexual, but we are willing to learn." ~Stripes

AcidMaX · 2004-01-22, 09:24 AM

I would say the best gay categories are:

Amateur
Twink
Hardcore
Hunks
Bear

I would say those are probably the most popular ones.

And I would have to say that General Gay sites DO convert well if you have the right one. The guys that run Randy Blue have the best converting gay site out there and its a General site. They are also coming out with some new sites here soon

They have gay sites locked down no one else converts like they do period!

-Andy

Cleo · 2004-01-22, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
lol - this cracks me up how every webmaster has to state that they are not gay

Hmmm, I'm bisexual, I'm so confused.

amber438 · 2004-01-22, 10:07 AM

Hmm..
ok..I'm female..
Best niche is gay..
I LOVE men..
So..am I gay at heart?

back to phpadsnew....

|goodnight

T Pat · 2004-01-22, 10:58 AM

This thread has given me the best laugh I’ve had since the last Green Guy and Jim Radio Show. I worked for a trade exchange 5 or so years ago and sat comfortably in the top salesman position. Then my boss asked for my advice on adding two gay men to the sales force to go after the gay market, I was against it, didn’t even want to be in the same room with any gay men. The Owner hired them my introduction to them was “ here’s Pat he’s our top salesman and a Homo Phob”. I wasn’t to worried about losing my position as top dog because there was no way in hell a fairy was going to beat me out in sales. The following year my income fully doubled, the company’s growth went up six times, I was second salesman all but a couple months and I added several gay men to my list of friends.
After my Homo Phobia wore off the two gay salesmen told me that I literally looked down at my hand after shacking there’s. I learned a sales term for the gay market “DINK’s” (Double Income No Kids) I also learned they make stiff drinks in gay bars. I was shit faced in a gay bar one night and this gay guy told me that he was such a good kisser that one kiss from him and I would want more, I kissed him twice to make sure and guess what? I didn’t want any more. Gay isn’t catchy, it doesn’t make you sick and there’s money to be made in the gay community.

Cleo · 2004-01-22, 11:09 AM

Quote:

I learned a sales term for the gay market “DINK’s” (Double Income No Kids)

I live in the east side of Fort Lauderdale right next to the beach. Being as everyone who comes to Florida wants to live by the beach the area that I live in has become very exclusive. It has also become mostly gay and lesbian. The house next store to me is owned by two older gay guys who have turned it into a beautiful two story mansion. Almost all the houses that have been bought by same sex couples have been beautifully remodeled. This has caused property values to go insane and guess what basically the only couples that can still afford to buy in this area are same sex couples.

Guess I'm luck that I bought a long time ago when things were more affordable or this Single Income Bisexual Bitch would have never been able to buy a home on the east side of town.

xxxjay · 2004-01-22, 07:02 PM

OMG this thread has taken a turn - lol.

romeoboi · 2004-01-25, 06:45 PM

Hey everyone-
I am gay so maybe that makes a professional in this subject

Its like queer eye for the straight porno guy!

In regard to niches, which Jay may want to take into account:
- The twink is overpopulated with free, AVS and paysites. However for a linklist, you will get a lot of sites so it may be good for you as you will get an abundance of submission for this category. However, as a webmaster I usually dont build twink sites unless they are ethnic twinks. As a side note for those paysite owners, I think a twink's first time themed site could still do well. Naked twinks with a little hardcore action is over populated and I wouldn't get into it! For those of you who dont know twinks are gay teens with a kind of lanky, skinny body type.

- Bears and asian gay I think can be a bit tricky to convert as the surfers tend to have highly refined tastes. Webmasters who arent well versed in these niches may have trouble. If you are interested in these niches, I would go with Bears. I have done some gay asian freesites, AVS and TGP pages and havent had great results in conversions even with some specialized gay asian traffic.

- Hardcore would be a good category for a link list - a lot of free sites and AVS sites out there just have posing or softcore, and from the few things Ive read the gay adult surfer tends to be interested in either or. I heard somewhere that gay surfers arent that interested in hardcore, which is total bull! However, if you are going hardcore with your site go all the way. Make it HARD and HOT!

- Latin is still a small niche and I havent had much luck in finding many paysite sponsors out there with the gay latin niche. I think this is a really underdeveloped niche that has a lot of potential, however I havent built for this niche yet so I dont know!

- Gay fetish is hard too because it seems to be split into a more softcore, leather sex kind of thing and then the really hard stuff with S&M, bondage, etc.. I think gloryhole is a good area though as its kind of in between and there is a big fantasy component to it.

- Ebony is a good niche which Im still exploring. I would go for it! Its a fairly sizeable niche and you can combine it with interracial which is supposedly supposed to be the hot niche this upcoming year.

Okay.... well ive totally rambled and gotten off topic. Jay I would reccomend the following niches:
Twinks
Hunks
Hardcore
Ethnic (for Asian/Latin/Ebony/Interracial)
Bears

I think fetish tends to be more specialized and I dont know if the traffic is there, so you could lump it in with Hardcore. I think its a fair enough match and the surfers who wanted fetish would find it.

if you have any questions about the gay niche or what good sponsors are out there, please PM me and we can chat! Im happy to help

xxxjay · 2004-01-25, 06:49 PM

romeoboi - very nice post - exactly what this thread needed. thanks my man

romeoboi · 2004-01-25, 09:05 PM

Hey everyone-
I also wanted to add that I would reccomend Top Bucks for a sponsor. They have a lot of different gay niche websites which make things easy, as opposed to just having one site from sponsor A and another site from sponsor B. I have had good luck with the following sites: His first huge cock, Gay Facials XXX, Gay Ebony XXX, Muscle Men XXX, Gay Bear XXX and Gay Videos XXX. The other ones are pretty good too. Their new tour for Gay Big Cock Sex looks promising.

And just for a shameless plug in niave optimism, if you havent signed up for Topbucks why not do so and give me a cut

at Topbucks

thanks!
-romeo

xxxjay · 2004-01-26, 01:52 AM

romeoboi - yeah man - i love topbucks - a lot of people say that they are burnt out, but i still do well with them

Lee · 2004-01-26, 01:56 AM

You could always try asking on one of the gay market resource sites or forums such as www.rockmehard.com www.gayaw.com or www.gaywidewebmasters.com if you have any further info needed

Regards,

Lee

xxxjay · 2004-01-27, 04:17 AM

Just did that expansion:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...&threadid=4248

2004-01-20, 01:51 PM	#1
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	Gay Traffic Advice Are there any gay webmaster that can help me out with this: My gay links section has grown so large that I am thinking of breaking it down some so it can be a better experience for the surfer. Ok, so say I was going to take my gays links and break them like 5 ways...what do you think the 5 best subcategories would be? Also, does anyone have any sponsor advice for niche specific gay stuff? __________________ Circle Of Violence

2004-01-20, 01:57 PM	#2
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2004-01-20, 02:15 PM	#3
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2004-01-20, 02:44 PM	#5
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Like I said, I'm not a "gay webmaster" ....... I may be a "schizo webmaster" but I think if you wanna narrow this down to 5 categories, then see if you can find good solid sponsors with hosted galleries/sites which are gay niche specific, like "Bears" for example. A general gay sponsor will be harder to convert than a specific gay niche one. Does that make sense? __________________

2004-01-20, 04:01 PM	#6
XPorn Selling a LL? Text site? PM me Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: MI Posts: 661	Obviously check GG&Js sponsor list first....but I use one that isn't listed right now. I just ICQed Jay with this link....but here it is for anyone else. They are one of the top gay sites out there right now. Converts pretty good for me...since I know nothing about gay niche...I use them as a good catch all. BlueLoot XPorn __________________ Free Sites? -> Free Site XXX Smut Links Gay Pervs

2004-01-20, 02:19 PM	#4
timothyb Guest Posts: n/a	Yes, breaking it down into sections would be better. I suggest the following categories: Amatuer Guys Asian Men Latino Men Black men BDSM Bears Hunks Twinks Uniforms I have gay sponsors listed with galleries provided by each sponsor or you can just sign up and get the links your self.. See my signature..

2004-01-20, 04:11 PM	#8
jhussher WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 46	I agree with Greenguy's list of categories. I wouldn't bother with "Hardcore" because it is almost meaningless. I specialize in gay ebony/interracial myself. Ethnic gay sites seem to be doing well, I just started a GayBoysofIndia and GayArabBoys sites and am getting traffic. BlueLoot only has 2 sites that I can see and they are pretty generic gay sites. James http://blackhotboyTGP.com

2004-01-21, 07:33 AM	#9
Nickname Stupid risks make life worth living Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 385	im neither a gay webmaster but i do own a gay domain and 1 gay niche that seems to convert good for me is "gay bigcock" also gay movies convert good! __________________ bexhag @ gmail.com skype: daniel.berglund1

2004-01-21, 11:47 AM	#10
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	cool - thanks for the advice lol - this cracks me up how every webmaster has to state that they are not gay i've had people hit me on icq that all said the same thing - hilarious __________________ Circle Of Violence

2004-01-21, 01:53 PM	#11
timothyb Guest Posts: n/a	I'm not straight, but, I'm Gay!!

2004-01-22, 06:57 AM	#13
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	"No, we're not homosexual, but we are willing to learn." ~Stripes __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-01-22, 09:24 AM	#14
AcidMaX Programming till my fingers bleed. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 876	I would say the best gay categories are: Amateur Twink Hardcore Hunks Bear I would say those are probably the most popular ones. And I would have to say that General Gay sites DO convert well if you have the right one. The guys that run Randy Blue have the best converting gay site out there and its a General site. They are also coming out with some new sites here soon They have gay sites locked down no one else converts like they do period! -Andy

2004-01-22, 10:07 AM	#16
amber438 Whatever don't kill ya makes ya stronger... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New York Posts: 820	Hmm.. ok..I'm female.. Best niche is gay.. I LOVE men.. So..am I gay at heart? back to phpadsnew.... \|goodnight __________________ Red Hot Links Red Hot Galleries

2004-01-22, 10:58 AM	#17
T Pat You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Paridise Posts: 3,244	This thread has given me the best laugh I’ve had since the last Green Guy and Jim Radio Show. I worked for a trade exchange 5 or so years ago and sat comfortably in the top salesman position. Then my boss asked for my advice on adding two gay men to the sales force to go after the gay market, I was against it, didn’t even want to be in the same room with any gay men. The Owner hired them my introduction to them was “ here’s Pat he’s our top salesman and a Homo Phob”. I wasn’t to worried about losing my position as top dog because there was no way in hell a fairy was going to beat me out in sales. The following year my income fully doubled, the company’s growth went up six times, I was second salesman all but a couple months and I added several gay men to my list of friends. After my Homo Phobia wore off the two gay salesmen told me that I literally looked down at my hand after shacking there’s. I learned a sales term for the gay market “DINK’s” (Double Income No Kids) I also learned they make stiff drinks in gay bars. I was shit faced in a gay bar one night and this gay guy told me that he was such a good kisser that one kiss from him and I would want more, I kissed him twice to make sure and guess what? I didn’t want any more. Gay isn’t catchy, it doesn’t make you sick and there’s money to be made in the gay community. __________________ How To Keep An Asshole In Suspense I'll Tell You Later

2004-01-22, 07:02 PM	#19
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	OMG this thread has taken a turn - lol. __________________ Circle Of Violence

2004-01-25, 06:45 PM	#20
romeoboi Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 103	Gay Niche Categories Hey everyone- I am gay so maybe that makes a professional in this subject Its like queer eye for the straight porno guy! In regard to niches, which Jay may want to take into account: - The twink is overpopulated with free, AVS and paysites. However for a linklist, you will get a lot of sites so it may be good for you as you will get an abundance of submission for this category. However, as a webmaster I usually dont build twink sites unless they are ethnic twinks. As a side note for those paysite owners, I think a twink's first time themed site could still do well. Naked twinks with a little hardcore action is over populated and I wouldn't get into it! For those of you who dont know twinks are gay teens with a kind of lanky, skinny body type. - Bears and asian gay I think can be a bit tricky to convert as the surfers tend to have highly refined tastes. Webmasters who arent well versed in these niches may have trouble. If you are interested in these niches, I would go with Bears. I have done some gay asian freesites, AVS and TGP pages and havent had great results in conversions even with some specialized gay asian traffic. - Hardcore would be a good category for a link list - a lot of free sites and AVS sites out there just have posing or softcore, and from the few things Ive read the gay adult surfer tends to be interested in either or. I heard somewhere that gay surfers arent that interested in hardcore, which is total bull! However, if you are going hardcore with your site go all the way. Make it HARD and HOT! - Latin is still a small niche and I havent had much luck in finding many paysite sponsors out there with the gay latin niche. I think this is a really underdeveloped niche that has a lot of potential, however I havent built for this niche yet so I dont know! - Gay fetish is hard too because it seems to be split into a more softcore, leather sex kind of thing and then the really hard stuff with S&M, bondage, etc.. I think gloryhole is a good area though as its kind of in between and there is a big fantasy component to it. - Ebony is a good niche which Im still exploring. I would go for it! Its a fairly sizeable niche and you can combine it with interracial which is supposedly supposed to be the hot niche this upcoming year. Okay.... well ive totally rambled and gotten off topic. Jay I would reccomend the following niches: Twinks Hunks Hardcore Ethnic (for Asian/Latin/Ebony/Interracial) Bears I think fetish tends to be more specialized and I dont know if the traffic is there, so you could lump it in with Hardcore. I think its a fair enough match and the surfers who wanted fetish would find it. if you have any questions about the gay niche or what good sponsors are out there, please PM me and we can chat! Im happy to help __________________ Promote DESPERATELY HORNY HOUSEWIVES Part of Adult Players Club!

2004-01-25, 06:49 PM	#21
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	romeoboi - very nice post - exactly what this thread needed. thanks my man __________________ Circle Of Violence

2004-01-25, 09:05 PM	#22
romeoboi Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 103	Good gay sponsors Hey everyone- I also wanted to add that I would reccomend Top Bucks for a sponsor. They have a lot of different gay niche websites which make things easy, as opposed to just having one site from sponsor A and another site from sponsor B. I have had good luck with the following sites: His first huge cock, Gay Facials XXX, Gay Ebony XXX, Muscle Men XXX, Gay Bear XXX and Gay Videos XXX. The other ones are pretty good too. Their new tour for Gay Big Cock Sex looks promising. And just for a shameless plug in niave optimism, if you havent signed up for Topbucks why not do so and give me a cut at Topbucks thanks! -romeo __________________ Promote DESPERATELY HORNY HOUSEWIVES Part of Adult Players Club!

2004-01-26, 01:52 AM	#23
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	romeoboi - yeah man - i love topbucks - a lot of people say that they are burnt out, but i still do well with them __________________ Circle Of Violence

2004-01-26, 01:56 AM	#24
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2004-01-27, 04:17 AM	#25
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	Just did that expansion: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...&threadid=4248 __________________ Circle Of Violence