Content

Frank-O · 2004-02-10, 02:44 AM

First of all, hello all, great site you all have here.
The smilies are killer...
and now my rant...lol

I have a stupid newbie question about content and submitting. I submitted a free site to Cleo's (and a few others) and it was declined (by Cleo so far) because content was overused. When promoting sponsors pay sites, I prefer to use sponsor content because in my opinion if the surfer sees a model he (or she) likes, they will want to see more. It was the only reason I ever took out my credit card to join a site and when I couldnt find anymore of a particular girl I was disappointed and canceled the trial. It may or may not be the way surfers in general do it, but its all I have to go on for right now.

Anyway, I built my site using ND content that came out that evening. So I'm a little lost as to how it can be over used. If it is preferred that I don't use that sponsor for that particuar LL, then just say so. I spend alot of time on my sites and my time is very limited (as is everyone elses). I just don't want to waste anyone's time and would like to establish a lasting and mutually profitable relationship with as many of you as possible. Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

Thanx
Frank

Fonz · 2004-02-10, 03:35 AM

Hi Frank-O, welcome to the board.

Most LL's don't accept ND free content (it's in their submit rules most of the time).
If you get like 50 free sites submitted to you LL every day and 10 of them use ND content... then after a while you've seen it all a couple of times, and so will the surfers reaction be also.
I understand your point of using the same girls on your free site like the girls that are on the actual paysite. But sponsors like ND have just to many webmasters that use their content.

MrMaryLou · 2004-02-10, 10:38 AM

Buy content that is not as pretty as the sponsors and upsell

Jim · 2004-02-10, 10:42 AM

Welcome to GreenguyAndJim, Frank-O
Grab some free content over here
http://www.greenguysboard.com/freecontent/index.html

MrMaryLou · 2004-02-10, 10:44 AM

Hey Frank-O where are ya located I am in NJ

Near exit 5 NJ Turnpike

Frank-O · 2004-02-10, 12:31 PM

Thanks for the input guys. Some good advice especially about buying content not quite as attractive as the sponsors and upselling. I will definately check out the free content as well.

MrMaryLou, My main home is in Phila (for now) but I keep my RV in a small campground just outside of Sea Isle City and spend as much time as I can there. Summers on it's way!! As soon as I start selling some serious memberships it's off to Ocean City (NJ). I want to sit on my deck everyday overlooking the beach and watching all the cuties in their bikinis while working on my laptop lol. So your off exit 5? Thats the Burlington area isn't it? My father inlaw lives in Burilington so I'm over that way all the time.

Just one question about the free content, (don't forget I'm a newbie) if I post the 2257 info on my site that will be adequate? I'm a little paranoid about the laws and after reading some boards before I really got started I almost changed my mind and didn't get into adult webmastering. Especially when it comes to disclaimer info when I first started it was almost 1000 words long. I found a terms of use agreement on an adult legal site and had my attorney review it, and put up a small disclaimer and provide a link to that page.

Well enough rambling, if anyone would like to critique my site it's http://www.naturagallons.com/fs/april and if the only thing thats really keeping it from getting listed is ND content then I will make up a few more with other content.

Thanks again very much guys for the help!|duff|

Frank-O

MrMaryLou · 2004-02-10, 01:10 PM

I am real close to Burlington

Frank-O that site you put up is 404

BTW add me to your ICQ 74491153

always good to find a webmaster in my area

Cleo · 2004-02-10, 01:14 PM

Hi Frank-O, welcome to the board.

Some sponsor content is ok, but pretty much anything from ND or most of the big sponsors is way over used. I get probably 10 sites a day submitted to me using ND content and I'm really sick of seeing it.

Frank-O · 2004-02-11, 04:27 AM

MrMaryLou: I added you to my ICQ list. Just waiting for auth on your end. My No. is 251245134. It is good to know theres someone close by. I was half asleep when I posted the url should be http://www.naturalgallons.com/fs/april (I forgot the l in natural) So when you get a chance check it out and let me know what you think.

Cleo: Other than the content, is there anything else that should be changed about the site to get it listed? I plan on putting a few more sites together before the end of the weekend and would like to get them listed.

I am having such a difficult time with traffic, I was listed with the hun twice and had decent results conisidering it was my first time. A few weeks ago I even went as far as to buy some PPC from Overture and Kanoodle and was about completely disgusted. Got plenty of clicks to the sponsors, but only one sale to ND out of about 1100 clicks, ( the last time it was about 1:77 from Hun traffic) My main search terms were bit tits and big boobs. I have some content that I purchased and planned on putting together an AVS premium site. I was wondering if I make free sites should I use my content to promote my site which is pretty much a gallery site with sponsor hosted galleries, or should I send the surfer off to the sponsor directly?

Questions questions questions!! lol thanx for helping out

Frank-O

badb0i · 2004-02-11, 06:50 PM

Just looking at it you might want to move your banners closer to your tables on your gallery pages. I got to gallery 3 before i scrolled down enough to see the banner. To me it seems like you dont have enough ads or text tu promote your banners. Its all too spaced out.

Also on page 4 your promoting a lesbian site. People didnt click you page to see lesbians so why would the subscribe to a lesbian site.

Just some suggestions

Frank-O · 2004-02-11, 07:23 PM

Thanks for the input. I will move my banners closer to the pics. I try not to put up too many ads. It seems that most LL despise too many ads. (What ever that means) The only reason I added the info and links for the lesbian site and the gang bang site is because even though the surfer is seeking out big tits, he may also have an interest in lesbians or anything else. So the surfer may not know that when he joins one site, he will have access to other niches as well.

I try to diversify a little bit, while the main body of my site is still true the what the surfer is looking for. Me personally I would like to know what else I will get out of a membership. I only have my own experience to work with, so I try to go with that.

Frank-O

soggy · 2004-02-12, 12:25 AM

Frank that Purple is a little drab on that black. You might want to use a brighter color something that the surfer cant miss.

Just my 2 cents,

soggy

2004-02-10, 02:44 AM	#1
Frank-O Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: PA,NJ Posts: 7	Content First of all, hello all, great site you all have here. The smilies are killer... and now my rant...lol I have a stupid newbie question about content and submitting. I submitted a free site to Cleo's (and a few others) and it was declined (by Cleo so far) because content was overused. When promoting sponsors pay sites, I prefer to use sponsor content because in my opinion if the surfer sees a model he (or she) likes, they will want to see more. It was the only reason I ever took out my credit card to join a site and when I couldnt find anymore of a particular girl I was disappointed and canceled the trial. It may or may not be the way surfers in general do it, but its all I have to go on for right now. Anyway, I built my site using ND content that came out that evening. So I'm a little lost as to how it can be over used. If it is preferred that I don't use that sponsor for that particuar LL, then just say so. I spend alot of time on my sites and my time is very limited (as is everyone elses). I just don't want to waste anyone's time and would like to establish a lasting and mutually profitable relationship with as many of you as possible. Any help or ideas would be appreciated. Thanx Frank

2004-02-10, 03:35 AM	#2
Fonz Former pr0n slinger. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 7,932	Hi Frank-O, welcome to the board. Most LL's don't accept ND free content (it's in their submit rules most of the time). If you get like 50 free sites submitted to you LL every day and 10 of them use ND content... then after a while you've seen it all a couple of times, and so will the surfers reaction be also. I understand your point of using the same girls on your free site like the girls that are on the actual paysite. But sponsors like ND have just to many webmasters that use their content. __________________ See how I abuse little trees on my Shumi no Bonsai Blog

2004-02-10, 10:38 AM	#3
MrMaryLou i fucking told i type to fucking fast wtf Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 11,247	Buy content that is not as pretty as the sponsors and upsell __________________ <a href="http://www.greenguysboard.com/onthebench/">Join Me For On The Bench </a>

2004-02-10, 10:44 AM	#5
MrMaryLou i fucking told i type to fucking fast wtf Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 11,247	Hey Frank-O where are ya located I am in NJ Near exit 5 NJ Turnpike __________________ <a href="http://www.greenguysboard.com/onthebench/">Join Me For On The Bench </a>

2004-02-10, 01:10 PM	#7
MrMaryLou i fucking told i type to fucking fast wtf Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 11,247	I am real close to Burlington Frank-O that site you put up is 404 BTW add me to your ICQ 74491153 always good to find a webmaster in my area __________________ <a href="http://www.greenguysboard.com/onthebench/">Join Me For On The Bench </a>

2004-02-10, 10:42 AM	#4
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Welcome to GreenguyAndJim, Frank-O Grab some free content over here http://www.greenguysboard.com/freecontent/index.html

2004-02-10, 12:31 PM	#6
Frank-O Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: PA,NJ Posts: 7	Thanks for the input guys. Some good advice especially about buying content not quite as attractive as the sponsors and upselling. I will definately check out the free content as well. MrMaryLou, My main home is in Phila (for now) but I keep my RV in a small campground just outside of Sea Isle City and spend as much time as I can there. Summers on it's way!! As soon as I start selling some serious memberships it's off to Ocean City (NJ). I want to sit on my deck everyday overlooking the beach and watching all the cuties in their bikinis while working on my laptop lol. So your off exit 5? Thats the Burlington area isn't it? My father inlaw lives in Burilington so I'm over that way all the time. Just one question about the free content, (don't forget I'm a newbie) if I post the 2257 info on my site that will be adequate? I'm a little paranoid about the laws and after reading some boards before I really got started I almost changed my mind and didn't get into adult webmastering. Especially when it comes to disclaimer info when I first started it was almost 1000 words long. I found a terms of use agreement on an adult legal site and had my attorney review it, and put up a small disclaimer and provide a link to that page. Well enough rambling, if anyone would like to critique my site it's http://www.naturagallons.com/fs/april and if the only thing thats really keeping it from getting listed is ND content then I will make up a few more with other content. Thanks again very much guys for the help!\|duff\| Frank-O

2004-02-10, 01:14 PM	#8
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Hi Frank-O, welcome to the board. Some sponsor content is ok, but pretty much anything from ND or most of the big sponsors is way over used. I get probably 10 sites a day submitted to me using ND content and I'm really sick of seeing it. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-02-11, 04:27 AM	#9
Frank-O Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: PA,NJ Posts: 7	MrMaryLou: I added you to my ICQ list. Just waiting for auth on your end. My No. is 251245134. It is good to know theres someone close by. I was half asleep when I posted the url should be http://www.naturalgallons.com/fs/april (I forgot the l in natural) So when you get a chance check it out and let me know what you think. Cleo: Other than the content, is there anything else that should be changed about the site to get it listed? I plan on putting a few more sites together before the end of the weekend and would like to get them listed. I am having such a difficult time with traffic, I was listed with the hun twice and had decent results conisidering it was my first time. A few weeks ago I even went as far as to buy some PPC from Overture and Kanoodle and was about completely disgusted. Got plenty of clicks to the sponsors, but only one sale to ND out of about 1100 clicks, ( the last time it was about 1:77 from Hun traffic) My main search terms were bit tits and big boobs. I have some content that I purchased and planned on putting together an AVS premium site. I was wondering if I make free sites should I use my content to promote my site which is pretty much a gallery site with sponsor hosted galleries, or should I send the surfer off to the sponsor directly? Questions questions questions!! lol thanx for helping out Frank-O

2004-02-11, 06:50 PM	#10
badb0i Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 6	Just looking at it you might want to move your banners closer to your tables on your gallery pages. I got to gallery 3 before i scrolled down enough to see the banner. To me it seems like you dont have enough ads or text tu promote your banners. Its all too spaced out. Also on page 4 your promoting a lesbian site. People didnt click you page to see lesbians so why would the subscribe to a lesbian site. Just some suggestions

2004-02-11, 07:23 PM	#11
Frank-O Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: PA,NJ Posts: 7	Thanks for the input. I will move my banners closer to the pics. I try not to put up too many ads. It seems that most LL despise too many ads. (What ever that means) The only reason I added the info and links for the lesbian site and the gang bang site is because even though the surfer is seeking out big tits, he may also have an interest in lesbians or anything else. So the surfer may not know that when he joins one site, he will have access to other niches as well. I try to diversify a little bit, while the main body of my site is still true the what the surfer is looking for. Me personally I would like to know what else I will get out of a membership. I only have my own experience to work with, so I try to go with that. Frank-O

2004-02-12, 12:25 AM	#12
soggy If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Panhandle Posts: 304	Frank that Purple is a little drab on that black. You might want to use a brighter color something that the surfer cant miss. Just my 2 cents, soggy