Index.html, Index.asp, Index.shtml...

creamxtreme · 2004-02-19, 10:47 PM

Index.dhtml, Index.php etc., etc. are these all synonomous and are they all acceptable to most who require no doorway pages and only an index page.

One member thinks they are not? Can we get some input on this issue?

Nick

Greenguy · 2004-02-20, 07:19 AM

It really all depends on who you ask & what SE they are trying to get a higher rank in

Personally, I don't really care too much what the name of the page you're submitting to me is (regardless of what you hear other people saying about my rules) As long as it's not an obvious mirror & I'm listed with a few other decent link lists, I'm usually happy

Linkster · 2004-02-20, 07:40 AM

Totally agree with GG - and you will find very few LLs that really require the index page - at least Ive only seen two that I used to submit to - and they are no longer on my submit list

A lot has been made of this and it is prudent to read the rules of every LL, however I find that plenty of good quality traffic can be had without worrying about that

Cleo · 2004-02-20, 07:56 AM

I'm with Greenguy on this, just give me a decent recip on a page that others will also be sending traffic to too.

DangerDave · 2004-02-20, 05:22 PM

As said.. I would agree with the others... any page(within reason) in the presence of other TRUE recips.

I do not list executable ages such as php/asp for free sites/galleries.

DD

creamxtreme · 2004-02-20, 08:37 PM

Now, coming back into this thread:

According to two research firms (not mentioned for the sake of not giving anyone a bad name) that there is a higher acceptance of FS's that have an index.htm or index.html as the first page in the FS.

However, while looking at several of your sites, I did not find this to be true. In fact, I found the total opposite.

There were pages named warning.html, bigtits.html etc., etc. and even a few .asp pages. And in good positions, as well.

As all of you have mentioned it really does not matter much, as to the extension or even the file name. However, would there be a higher acceptance level at your own sites, if the FS did in fact start with an index.html, index.htm page?

Or is this something none of you gave much thought too? I am only adding this for the sake of others who may look into this thread while it is active. I pretty much have the clear message from you that if the site is a quality site, it will get listed no matter what the start page was.

Thanks again,
Nick

Greenguy · 2004-02-20, 09:04 PM

I would love to know the names of these "research firms" as well as who the researched

& I think we all answered the rest of your questions the 1st time around

DangerDave · 2004-02-20, 09:50 PM

I dont know any "research firm" that looks at free sites.. let alone two.. I would love to know who they are too..

creamxtreme,

Not every site listed is a "submitted" site... so judging things on what is listed is fundamentally flawed.

DD

creamxtreme · 2004-02-21, 05:32 PM

DD by now you would have received my PM, this is just to clarify your response here on the forum.

I asked for someone else to look into PB's claims. As I did, and also my conclusion was much in line with what you stated and basically so were their findings.

GG also received a PM from me and I agree with him on this issue and too assure others, that the matter of "most other major LL's is not as it was being represented" regarding index.html.

Yet, one of my guys pointed out that there was a higher incidence of index.html compared to warning.html or index33.html and as you say this really holds no relevancy in regards to total overall submits.

That the only way we could tell this is if we had each and every LL's new submission pages and viewed them and then made our comparisons, which again, is unrealistic.

Now the question hinges upon why look at our competitors or our source of traffic? The first answer is this, acceptance or rejection of our submits. Then there is a matter of placement, once accepted, if accepted, where will we be placed.

As for our competitors an example would best suit this explanation: When someone come up with the idea of category specific recips, it seemed plausible to do so also, to many others. The reasoning behind this is anyone's guess - but one of the reasons given is it keeps visitors happy, knowing they can find other category specific material, all in one place.

Are there other reasons? Probably so. Are submitters and LL owners happy with the new recip rules? Well, only time can tell.

But these are jsut a few reasons why we do research. Even if jsut briefly, some LL's (and I have seen this myself) suggest to new webmasters who have never submitted before, that they take some time to look over their sites and compare sites listed to the ones the submitter intends to submit.

And this brief kind of researching an LL the new submitter gets to know what is and isn't acceptable and if or if not his/her site is comparable to those already listed. It is something we do all day every day and its not jsut for SEO any more, it is for jsut about everything we do.

Nick

2004-02-19, 10:47 PM	#1
creamxtreme WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 49	Index.html, Index.asp, Index.shtml... Index.dhtml, Index.php etc., etc. are these all synonomous and are they all acceptable to most who require no doorway pages and only an index page. One member thinks they are not? Can we get some input on this issue? Nick __________________ Reserved til I figure it out - do I even have the slightest clue?

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DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	As said.. I would agree with the others... any page(within reason) in the presence of other TRUE recips. I do not list executable ages such as php/asp for free sites/galleries. DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2004-02-20, 08:37 PM	#6
creamxtreme WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 49	Thanks All for this input! Now, coming back into this thread: According to two research firms (not mentioned for the sake of not giving anyone a bad name) that there is a higher acceptance of FS's that have an index.htm or index.html as the first page in the FS. However, while looking at several of your sites, I did not find this to be true. In fact, I found the total opposite. There were pages named warning.html, bigtits.html etc., etc. and even a few .asp pages. And in good positions, as well. As all of you have mentioned it really does not matter much, as to the extension or even the file name. However, would there be a higher acceptance level at your own sites, if the FS did in fact start with an index.html, index.htm page? Or is this something none of you gave much thought too? I am only adding this for the sake of others who may look into this thread while it is active. I pretty much have the clear message from you that if the site is a quality site, it will get listed no matter what the start page was. Thanks again, Nick __________________ Reserved til I figure it out - do I even have the slightest clue?

2004-02-20, 09:04 PM	#7
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,804	I would love to know the names of these "research firms" as well as who the researched & I think we all answered the rest of your questions the 1st time around __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-02-20, 09:50 PM	#8
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	I dont know any "research firm" that looks at free sites.. let alone two.. I would love to know who they are too.. creamxtreme, Not every site listed is a "submitted" site... so judging things on what is listed is fundamentally flawed. DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2004-02-21, 05:32 PM	#9
creamxtreme WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 49	Follow Up of sorts. DD by now you would have received my PM, this is just to clarify your response here on the forum. I asked for someone else to look into PB's claims. As I did, and also my conclusion was much in line with what you stated and basically so were their findings. GG also received a PM from me and I agree with him on this issue and too assure others, that the matter of "most other major LL's is not as it was being represented" regarding index.html. Yet, one of my guys pointed out that there was a higher incidence of index.html compared to warning.html or index33.html and as you say this really holds no relevancy in regards to total overall submits. That the only way we could tell this is if we had each and every LL's new submission pages and viewed them and then made our comparisons, which again, is unrealistic. Now the question hinges upon why look at our competitors or our source of traffic? The first answer is this, acceptance or rejection of our submits. Then there is a matter of placement, once accepted, if accepted, where will we be placed. As for our competitors an example would best suit this explanation: When someone come up with the idea of category specific recips, it seemed plausible to do so also, to many others. The reasoning behind this is anyone's guess - but one of the reasons given is it keeps visitors happy, knowing they can find other category specific material, all in one place. Are there other reasons? Probably so. Are submitters and LL owners happy with the new recip rules? Well, only time can tell. But these are jsut a few reasons why we do research. Even if jsut briefly, some LL's (and I have seen this myself) suggest to new webmasters who have never submitted before, that they take some time to look over their sites and compare sites listed to the ones the submitter intends to submit. And this brief kind of researching an LL the new submitter gets to know what is and isn't acceptable and if or if not his/her site is comparable to those already listed. It is something we do all day every day and its not jsut for SEO any more, it is for jsut about everything we do. Nick __________________ Reserved til I figure it out - do I even have the slightest clue? Last edited by creamxtreme; 2004-02-21 at 05:34 PM..