Emerald...

Yours under this new rule is not allowed (as would mine). If in fact this is becomes a new rule.

You have 5 outbound links.

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I know how many outbound links I have..

that wasnt my question and I am waiting for Kit to respond since she started this thread. I do have 5 outbound links BUT to only 2 destinations . her 2 samples had 4 and 10 outbound links to 4 & 10 destinations. there is a difference.

Hello Emerland. I mean 2 links in total. I can surely tell you, Google don't give you more PR if you will put 5 repeating links leading to couple different pages.

BTW, Why you can't code your reciprocal using two links only?

PS. I can easily modify my links for getting 10-15-20 links back from each submission, but I don't want turn good old free sites to the linkfarms having zero value for Google.

The day when link site owners will order webmasters use new linkfarms will be end of LLs. Do you want it?

On the recip table that I have PB & WP there are 2 LLs that have 3 outgoing links on the recips - rather than changing my tables around, would these particular LL owners have a problem if I unlinked one if they go to the same page?

also, it would be beneficial to all if we knew which LL owners are going to put this rule in place so us subbers can change things accordingly. I submit to over 100 LLs right now, and to be honest, unless it's outrageous I really don't count if they have 2 or 3 outgoing links. 3 seems to be pretty common.

Thanks,
Ponygirl

btw - I use the LLs recips, not my own text ones.

Now I'm totally confused |dizzy| I really don't understand all these posts. So I have to know who runs all the LL's so I don't put them all on one page?

I'm finding it hard enough just to get everyone listed with who they want to be with. I understand the big guys wanting to be listed together, don't have a problem with that at all. But my recipt table is up to 21 now just to keep them all together. Then I have the people you are nice enough to give me partner accounts, they should be listed on a good page also. And of course the smaller link lists who are nice enough to list my sites all the time..it's confusing to me how to please everyone, and give credit to the ones I feel deserve it.

Am I making any sense here? I sure hope so... |dizzy|

This really is getting out of hand and confusing |confused| |confused| for the subers. The LL's are going to have to start telling us who they won't accept on recips with them.

You guys opened this can of worms you need to figure it out. The referance thread http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/30575.htm that started this thread 2 days was locked on 16 Aug and nothing since that I could find.

I think this is some kind of a kneejerk reaction and somebody needs to get a grip on reality. I looked at a lot of the major LL's PR today and didn't see any problem, but I'm just the new guy. Just need to know the rules. |huh

The recip table was never made to make google happy or otherwise :)

Can you code 5 boxes on a table recip to be one link? Id be happy to do just that if I could figure out how.

now darn I just read on this thread and noticed I subbed a site with emeralds recip and to penis bot, dont know what to do now..

So is kit saying he wont list any free sites with smut grimlens recip on that free site ?? since there's 5 out going links to her site..

also I been thinking a good while of going to nich recips for my LL..

It's impossible :(

But it's always possible to find alternative way to do something ;)

P.S.: Adult List also agreed with this rule. It's also good linklist.

Same here..I also submited to pernus bot with smut gremlins recip
but is smut gremlins one of the recomended sites on PENISBOT it says something like we suggest you submit the following LLs and smutgremlins is there? THis is tricky man :(

Wonder what should I do...the site is still pending..should i Just downsize smutgremlins recip?

I think I read in her rules no sites will be listed without the new recips...

Smut Gremlin is great linklist and Kit and me too respect Emerald very much as a person.

Everything will be ok if the recips will be changed. So I think there are no reason to delete any links from there.

well then I think it's up to the LLs to change their recips, it shouldn't fall upon the subbers to figure out who has 2 who has 3 links in their recip tables. I agree with more than 4 but could we just leave the ones with 3? There's a lot of large, well respected lists out there with 3 outgoing links.

just a thought
Ponygirl

Hi Emerald! |waves| Happy Thanksgiving.

I respect and admire you so much, I always had fun every time I was with you too, esp. talking about online gaming, lol.

Could you allow those that want to do the 2 links rule to modify your links, esp. in custom tables, so they make the linklists happy like PenisBot, and let the others use your custom recips? Would save you having to redo all of them again.

Something like this:

Smut Gremlins Free Porn
For Women

Which is what I'd do on a for women site, and put something to that effect in your rules, so people have the choice?

I admit personally, I custom do all my recips now, even for my own sites, because I think it makes the boxes look neater.

In light of all the hallaboo regarding the recips I have decided to alter mine once again..

Ponygirl offered to recode them all for me (Bless her heart) and hopefully Kit will let a few slide since this rule came into effect almost the same time I redid my whole site - including the recips - perhaps give the subbers a weeks grace period?

In the meantime as RedCherry suggested - go ahead and alter them to 2 links - one being the category linked to the correct cat and the other linked to my index.

It would be a shame if subbers had to choose between one or the other link list because of this new rule (never even occured to me it was a SE spam) I dont pay attention to SE since it would occupy all my time just to keep up with all the changes.

Im really sorry this has caused some submitters extra work .. was never my intention to make my recips be a problem.. I just wanted a "new" look from the old recips - its 5 boxes in the table, which made me have 5 links

I still maintain the stand that it is only 2 links since there is only 2 destinations.

Free site builders often have 3-4 links on one ad and we dont count that as 3 outgoing links! - would hate to see that come up as a new rule.

New recips will be posted soon .. and again thank you Ponygirl for offering to recode them for me :)

Emerald

emerald can I just use two text links till you get them changed ? I got a headach looking at the code :D

Lmao Plateman .. I got a headache doing the code!!

Go ahead and make custom recips in the meantime.

Thanks |waves|

I think that the better way to solve this problem for linklist posters is to change recips in their submitters by themselves. When all linklits owners change their recips - linklist posters can take the codes and use new ones.

PonyGirl, that was very nice of you! I feel for you, I just changed all mine on both lists, took me forever.

I try hard to read up on SE stuff, mostly from searchenginenews.com I've been subscribing to them for years. They have been talking about inbound links possibly causing problems for the last few months, specifically having too many with the exact same anchor text. I wasn't too concerned with that until I saw the WMW thread.

I agree that some of WMW's webmasters might have gotten nailed for scraping and basically having items on their sites that make it look like they are are using blackhat or greyhat techniques, so they might have been asking for it.

Then again, why risk it? I get a lot of my traffic from Google personally for my link lists, and would like to keep that.

I think if we all changed up our recip text every month or so, or allowed submitters to change it some, we might be better off in the long run. Less red flags, and more keyword terms for you to rank in per page. Just my 2 cents.

Just read my new tagline, LMAO

MadHatter ought to appreciate that.

Emerald one thing you could do is to nest your recip table into another table and use onmousovers and onclick events...though I don't know if any link lists have problems with onclicks.
Then you can just remove all the links in your table except for the niche specific one (In this example the Ebony porn takes you to the niche page) and use the onclick to send to your index.
I did a quick sample here with the added table with the java events in red in the code

2 Emerald
Would you mind if I will use recip like this

Smut Gremlins

Free Movies, Pics & Vids...

BLOWJOBS

I just edited your standart recip to fit all new standarts on LL's. I think it's nice! |thumb

Ponygirl...very sweet darlin |thumb

I'll chime in here...I have absolutely no problem with 3 or possibly even 4 if it's a good submitter and/or a link site I recognize. But, the ones that I think are of real concern are the ones using 10+ links in a recip...that's just greedy.

I only have 2 links in my recips on Free Porn Post anyway...all text. Submitters feel free to mod keywords as needed, but please keep the links themselves intact.