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4thaloveofdough 2007-07-09 11:21 PM

AVS Sites vs. Free Sites - Which do you prefer?
 
Okay I did a post on PPS vs. Revshare, now it's time for AVS vs. Free Sites. I've tried promoting AVS sites a few years ago and had no luck, but I gave up without really putting any effort into it. My question is, do you really get better conversion ratios with AVS? I know people say that since visitors are proven to be willing to use their credit card sales are better, but is this really true or just theory? What are your past experiences with AVS?

Porn Junkie 2007-07-10 04:26 AM

Curious on this too. Im just getting into AVS sites myself

Jim 2007-07-10 07:50 AM

I am going to take the chance that you meant AVS instead of AVN and change it. :)

tigermom 2007-07-10 10:17 AM

I am trying for it as well nowadays, thanks to Sheep Guy ;) I only made 4 sites so far, so can't really tell you which is "better". I intend to go on doing both btw.

Tommy 2007-07-10 10:56 AM

ill tell ya the truth

years ago most of my money came from avs sites but since then its droped off to almost nothing

i would love to get back in to it again but dont know who to use etc etc

NinjaSteve 2007-07-10 01:04 PM

I think AVS sites can sell well. People back in the day built feeder sites just to get linklist traffic but those numbers aren't as strong as they used to be.
Building for sales = should do well
Building for traffic = not the best option
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 356543)
ill tell ya the truth

years ago most of my money came from avs sites but since then its droped off to almost nothing

i would love to get back in to it again but dont know who to use etc etc

I know this one kicks ass
www.xxxsexticket.com
http://www.xxxsexticket.com/affiliates.cgi

4thaloveofdough 2007-07-10 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim (Post 356514)
I am going to take the chance that you meant AVS instead of AVN and change it. :)

Thanks Jim! :)

SirMoby 2007-07-10 06:00 PM

For years every free site I built was designed to promote and AVS site of the same niche. You can't get a better match for content.

I've always been a big fan of CyberAge and after 6 or 7 years in the business I don't understand why more people don't use them.

SheepGuy 2007-07-10 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 356543)
ill tell ya the truth

years ago most of my money came from avs sites but since then its droped off to almost nothing

i would love to get back in to it again but dont know who to use etc etc

Sent ya a PM Tommy, and if anyone is real serious about getting into AVS's let me know. I know that part of the biz very well from an impartial point of view since I deal with almost every AVS out there ;)

4thaloveofdough 2007-07-10 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheepGuy (Post 356609)
... if anyone is real serious about getting into AVS's let me know. I know that part of the biz very well from an impartial point of view since I deal with almost every AVS out there ;)

SheepGuy, which is more profitable for you: Free sites or AVS? If the money is better I would love to learn.

spookyx 2007-07-10 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirMoby (Post 356603)
For years every free site I built was designed to promote and AVS site of the same niche. You can't get a better match for content.

I've always been a big fan of CyberAge and after 6 or 7 years in the business I don't understand why more people don't use them.

SirMoby I agree, I am still getting sales in one of the micro niches from cyberage sites that are 4+ years old

|thumb

Sarah_Jayne 2007-07-11 07:19 AM

I do a lot of AVS and use my blogs, which I think of as another form of free site, to promote them.

SheepGuy 2007-07-11 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4thaloveofdough (Post 356611)
SheepGuy, which is more profitable for you: Free sites or AVS? If the money is better I would love to learn.

I make more with AVS, but then I've been doing them longer and have more AVS sites.

alexv 2007-07-11 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 356543)
i would love to get back in to it again but dont know who to use etc etc

Be sure to check http://adultbouncer.com/ |thumb

You are welcome to contact me with any questions regarding it: 371085907 ;)

NinjaSteve 2007-07-16 12:13 PM

Do a lot of link lists accept AVS sites these days? Or what % would you say accept ONLY free sites?

SheepGuy 2007-07-16 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 357327)
Do a lot of link lists accept AVS sites these days? Or what % would you say accept ONLY free sites?

See my sig for a list of some sites that list AVS, there are plenty more out there as well.

gandalfuy 2007-07-20 02:58 AM

i would say free sites...

CraigT 2007-07-27 07:08 PM

Check out a company i used to work for, I am no longer with them but I can def vouch for their integrity.

Sexkey.com It solves both your needs being a free AVS. Whatever you decide to do, make sure you really make your tour compelling.

While they are getting other sites, it is yours that needs to convert.

ronnie 2007-07-28 02:09 PM

When I first started in this business, one of the first people I "met" online, turned me on to avs sites. Thats all I did for like the next 2 years. As mentioned, it was all about getting the link list traffic from the avs service and it worked very well. Sadly some big players left and the rest kinda caught on. The sales sure are not what they use to be, it pretty much dried up.

It still doesn't matter if you make free or avs sites, you still have to get traffic to them, just as you would a free site. I don't see avs sites as being some magical money making secret. Just my opinion...:)

It still comes down to getting traffic. Maybe others have had success with it.

stfuvt 2007-07-30 10:21 PM

one thing I was always wondering is do we built just a doorway for the AVS and link to existing free site(main page) or we built AVS site only for the AVS themselves?

SheepGuy 2007-07-31 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie (Post 359183)

It still doesn't matter if you make free or avs sites, you still have to get traffic to them, just as you would a free site. I don't see avs sites as being some magical money making secret. Just my opinion...:)

It still comes down to getting traffic. Maybe others have had success with it.

Absolutely. It's not magic, or get rich quick. I've explained what I like about it as part of a business model far too often, but the brief version is, rebills retain, less format rules to follow than fs's, qualified traffic inside.

AVS internal LL's still send some traffic, but if you're relying on that for sales, you'll starve.

marcjacob 2007-08-03 07:42 PM

IMO AVS will have better ratios for up-sells, but the traffic is just not there. But of course you can also sell the avs and make money. Im struggling with that side of it if im honest but im desperately trying. But the sponsor side is first class. You have to add to as many link lists as you can find to get more traffic, but yeah, avs traffic converts well.

I dont find it retains as well but maybe thats just me.

zeta 2007-08-05 11:38 PM

Free sites get traffic
I belive thats all there is to say

SheepGuy 2007-08-06 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeta (Post 360345)
Free sites get traffic
I belive thats all there is to say

Cool! End of discussion. I'll be giving mine up then |crazy|

oldbrad 2007-08-06 12:23 AM

If done right and submitted to the right places, avs sites can get very good traffic. Especially with a great link and site style like sheepguy has.

More traffic does not equal more sales.
I believe thats all there is to say.

Brad


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