AVS Sites vs. Free Sites - Which do you prefer?

4thaloveofdough · 2007-07-09, 11:21 PM

Okay I did a post on PPS vs. Revshare, now it's time for AVS vs. Free Sites. I've tried promoting AVS sites a few years ago and had no luck, but I gave up without really putting any effort into it. My question is, do you really get better conversion ratios with AVS? I know people say that since visitors are proven to be willing to use their credit card sales are better, but is this really true or just theory? What are your past experiences with AVS?

Porn Junkie · 2007-07-10, 04:26 AM

Curious on this too. Im just getting into AVS sites myself

Jim · 2007-07-10, 07:50 AM

I am going to take the chance that you meant AVS instead of AVN and change it.

tigermom · 2007-07-10, 10:17 AM

I am trying for it as well nowadays, thanks to Sheep Guy

I only made 4 sites so far, so can't really tell you which is "better". I intend to go on doing both btw.

Tommy · 2007-07-10, 10:56 AM

ill tell ya the truth

years ago most of my money came from avs sites but since then its droped off to almost nothing

i would love to get back in to it again but dont know who to use etc etc

NinjaSteve · 2007-07-10, 01:04 PM

I think AVS sites can sell well. People back in the day built feeder sites just to get linklist traffic but those numbers aren't as strong as they used to be.
Building for sales = should do well
Building for traffic = not the best option

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Originally Posted by Tommy

ill tell ya the truth

years ago most of my money came from avs sites but since then its droped off to almost nothing

i would love to get back in to it again but dont know who to use etc etc

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4thaloveofdough · 2007-07-10, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

I am going to take the chance that you meant AVS instead of AVN and change it.

Thanks Jim!

SirMoby · 2007-07-10, 06:00 PM

For years every free site I built was designed to promote and AVS site of the same niche. You can't get a better match for content.

I've always been a big fan of CyberAge and after 6 or 7 years in the business I don't understand why more people don't use them.

SheepGuy · 2007-07-10, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

ill tell ya the truth

years ago most of my money came from avs sites but since then its droped off to almost nothing

i would love to get back in to it again but dont know who to use etc etc

Sent ya a PM Tommy, and if anyone is real serious about getting into AVS's let me know. I know that part of the biz very well from an impartial point of view since I deal with almost every AVS out there

4thaloveofdough · 2007-07-10, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SheepGuy

... if anyone is real serious about getting into AVS's let me know. I know that part of the biz very well from an impartial point of view since I deal with almost every AVS out there

SheepGuy, which is more profitable for you: Free sites or AVS? If the money is better I would love to learn.

spookyx · 2007-07-10, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirMoby

For years every free site I built was designed to promote and AVS site of the same niche. You can't get a better match for content.

I've always been a big fan of CyberAge and after 6 or 7 years in the business I don't understand why more people don't use them.

SirMoby I agree, I am still getting sales in one of the micro niches from cyberage sites that are 4+ years old

Sarah_Jayne · 2007-07-11, 07:19 AM

I do a lot of AVS and use my blogs, which I think of as another form of free site, to promote them.

SheepGuy · 2007-07-11, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 4thaloveofdough

SheepGuy, which is more profitable for you: Free sites or AVS? If the money is better I would love to learn.

I make more with AVS, but then I've been doing them longer and have more AVS sites.

alexv · 2007-07-11, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

i would love to get back in to it again but dont know who to use etc etc

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NinjaSteve · 2007-07-16, 12:13 PM

Do a lot of link lists accept AVS sites these days? Or what % would you say accept ONLY free sites?

SheepGuy · 2007-07-16, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

Do a lot of link lists accept AVS sites these days? Or what % would you say accept ONLY free sites?

See my sig for a list of some sites that list AVS, there are plenty more out there as well.

gandalfuy · 2007-07-20, 02:58 AM

i would say free sites...

CraigT · 2007-07-27, 07:08 PM

Check out a company i used to work for, I am no longer with them but I can def vouch for their integrity.

Sexkey.com It solves both your needs being a free AVS. Whatever you decide to do, make sure you really make your tour compelling.

While they are getting other sites, it is yours that needs to convert.

ronnie · 2007-07-28, 02:09 PM

When I first started in this business, one of the first people I "met" online, turned me on to avs sites. Thats all I did for like the next 2 years. As mentioned, it was all about getting the link list traffic from the avs service and it worked very well. Sadly some big players left and the rest kinda caught on. The sales sure are not what they use to be, it pretty much dried up.

It still doesn't matter if you make free or avs sites, you still have to get traffic to them, just as you would a free site. I don't see avs sites as being some magical money making secret. Just my opinion...

It still comes down to getting traffic. Maybe others have had success with it.

stfuvt · 2007-07-30, 10:21 PM

one thing I was always wondering is do we built just a doorway for the AVS and link to existing free site(main page) or we built AVS site only for the AVS themselves?

SheepGuy · 2007-07-31, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ronnie

It still doesn't matter if you make free or avs sites, you still have to get traffic to them, just as you would a free site. I don't see avs sites as being some magical money making secret. Just my opinion...

It still comes down to getting traffic. Maybe others have had success with it.

Absolutely. It's not magic, or get rich quick. I've explained what I like about it as part of a business model far too often, but the brief version is, rebills retain, less format rules to follow than fs's, qualified traffic inside.

AVS internal LL's still send some traffic, but if you're relying on that for sales, you'll starve.

marcjacob · 2007-08-03, 07:42 PM

IMO AVS will have better ratios for up-sells, but the traffic is just not there. But of course you can also sell the avs and make money. Im struggling with that side of it if im honest but im desperately trying. But the sponsor side is first class. You have to add to as many link lists as you can find to get more traffic, but yeah, avs traffic converts well.

I dont find it retains as well but maybe thats just me.

zeta · 2007-08-05, 11:38 PM

Free sites get traffic
I belive thats all there is to say

SheepGuy · 2007-08-06, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by zeta

Free sites get traffic
I belive thats all there is to say

Cool! End of discussion. I'll be giving mine up then

oldbrad · 2007-08-06, 12:23 AM

If done right and submitted to the right places, avs sites can get very good traffic. Especially with a great link and site style like sheepguy has.

More traffic does not equal more sales.
I believe thats all there is to say.

Brad

2007-07-09, 11:21 PM	#1
4thaloveofdough Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 69	AVS Sites vs. Free Sites - Which do you prefer? Okay I did a post on PPS vs. Revshare, now it's time for AVS vs. Free Sites. I've tried promoting AVS sites a few years ago and had no luck, but I gave up without really putting any effort into it. My question is, do you really get better conversion ratios with AVS? I know people say that since visitors are proven to be willing to use their credit card sales are better, but is this really true or just theory? What are your past experiences with AVS? __________________ Submit Your Free Sites: Categorized Sex Last edited by 4thaloveofdough; 2007-07-09 at 11:22 PM.. Reason: grammer

2007-07-10, 04:26 AM	#2
Porn Junkie I've always wondered if there was a god. And now I know there is -- and it's me Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canada Eh! Posts: 325	Curious on this too. Im just getting into AVS sites myself __________________ EzAngels EzLinks - Submit here

2007-07-10, 10:17 AM	#4
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	I am trying for it as well nowadays, thanks to Sheep Guy I only made 4 sites so far, so can't really tell you which is "better". I intend to go on doing both btw. __________________ XLEF

2007-07-10, 10:56 AM	#5
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	ill tell ya the truth years ago most of my money came from avs sites but since then its droped off to almost nothing i would love to get back in to it again but dont know who to use etc etc __________________ Accepting New partners

2007-07-11, 07:19 AM	#12
Sarah_Jayne I hustle for Hustler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 526	I do a lot of AVS and use my blogs, which I think of as another form of free site, to promote them. __________________ HustlerCash.com Affiliate Manager ICQ: 232834291 \| Skype: sjayne76

2007-07-10, 07:50 AM	#3
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I am going to take the chance that you meant AVS instead of AVN and change it.

2007-07-10, 06:00 PM	#8
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	For years every free site I built was designed to promote and AVS site of the same niche. You can't get a better match for content. I've always been a big fan of CyberAge and after 6 or 7 years in the business I don't understand why more people don't use them.

2007-07-16, 12:13 PM	#15
NinjaSteve Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 122	Do a lot of link lists accept AVS sites these days? Or what % would you say accept ONLY free sites? __________________ .

2007-07-20, 02:58 AM	#17
gandalfuy Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 72	i would say free sites...

2007-07-27, 07:08 PM	#18
CraigT Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6	Check out a company i used to work for, I am no longer with them but I can def vouch for their integrity. Sexkey.com It solves both your needs being a free AVS. Whatever you decide to do, make sure you really make your tour compelling. While they are getting other sites, it is yours that needs to convert. __________________ http://www.Moocash.com craig "at" moocash.com

2007-07-28, 02:09 PM	#19
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	When I first started in this business, one of the first people I "met" online, turned me on to avs sites. Thats all I did for like the next 2 years. As mentioned, it was all about getting the link list traffic from the avs service and it worked very well. Sadly some big players left and the rest kinda caught on. The sales sure are not what they use to be, it pretty much dried up. It still doesn't matter if you make free or avs sites, you still have to get traffic to them, just as you would a free site. I don't see avs sites as being some magical money making secret. Just my opinion... It still comes down to getting traffic. Maybe others have had success with it.

2007-07-30, 10:21 PM	#20
stfuvt My wife is not a doobie to be passed around! On our wedding day I promised to bogart her for life! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 278	one thing I was always wondering is do we built just a doorway for the AVS and link to existing free site(main page) or we built AVS site only for the AVS themselves? __________________ Jakes Links - Submit Your Free Sites Here I am selling pornblog.ca

2007-08-03, 07:42 PM	#22
marcjacob If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 34	IMO AVS will have better ratios for up-sells, but the traffic is just not there. But of course you can also sell the avs and make money. Im struggling with that side of it if im honest but im desperately trying. But the sponsor side is first class. You have to add to as many link lists as you can find to get more traffic, but yeah, avs traffic converts well. I dont find it retains as well but maybe thats just me.

2007-08-05, 11:38 PM	#23
zeta Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19	Free sites get traffic I belive thats all there is to say __________________ _____________________________________ looking good

2007-08-06, 12:23 AM	#25
oldbrad It is better to watch things then to do them Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: oregon Posts: 485	If done right and submitted to the right places, avs sites can get very good traffic. Especially with a great link and site style like sheepguy has. More traffic does not equal more sales. I believe thats all there is to say. Brad __________________ Help MrMaryLou Link to his Chubby TGP & Chubby Links on your sites and blogs.