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Tommy 2006-01-27 01:16 PM

MSN
 
Lately I am seeing a lot of traffic from MSN

they obviously have some nice traffic

I am thinking their stock might be a good investment
they have no ads on their adult pages

if they started some sort of pay per click thing like Google they might be rolling in the money

I know they have really only started paying attention to their se in the last year or so

they might be bigger then yahoo maybe in years bigger then Google

what do you guys think ???

LowryBigwood 2006-01-27 01:41 PM

Tommy,

I believe they are beta testing it.

http://advertising.msn.com/msnadcenter/msnadcenter.asp

Linkster 2006-01-27 01:44 PM

Ive always believed that they will be the biggest SE within two years from now - the search results are not bad now that theyve worked out the bugs, the PPC engine they have behind the scenes is looking good and they have the power to make IE only recognize their own searches :) All it would take is a little more pushing and I think they will do it in the coming year

LowryBigwood 2006-01-27 01:48 PM

I agree, MSN could take over in the future. I hope they do, they have a strong developer community, and in my opinion, they maybe a little more webmaster friendly.

plateman 2006-01-27 01:50 PM

MSN search has been ok with me.. some ups and downs as far as traffic goes, and I can say that I agree that msn will be a leader in near future...

plateman 2006-01-27 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood
I agree, MSN could take over in the future. I hope they do, they have a strong developer community, and in my opinion, they maybe a little more webmaster friendly.

yes I agree also I had a question about my index the way it was cached and hit there webmaster feedback form and got a reply the very next day with some tips and answer that they would give it to a tech department..

kenny 2006-01-27 01:59 PM

The future of microsoft search

http://live.com

http://ideas.live.com/

I believe Microsoft is going to intergrade their new operating systems and browsers with their online search.

If they go that route that can gain a large portion of the search engine market almost overnight

Surfn 2006-01-27 02:17 PM

MSN is here to stay. They will be getting bigger everyday.

stuveltje 2006-01-27 03:03 PM

i love msn traffic, when i still owned my storyblog msn was my top refferer of the searchengines.I think they will grow big:)

Allfetish 2006-01-27 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy
what do you guys think ???

I'm seeing more traffic from them now this month than yahoo. It could be many things doing this though.

I agree with your assessment. IF the regulators will allow them to get away with it they could easily leverage their hold on the desktop software market in ways that could increase their traffic at the search engines.

MS is obviously looking for things to expand into because their software market alone is stagnating in growth. There is only so much they can do in that field...

DangerDave 2006-01-27 03:19 PM

IMO
I sincerely doubt MSN will make any inroads in the near future, without hijacking/tying itself to searches within Windows.

They are running behind now and trying to play catchup, and not doing a very good job of it. Sure they may increase their market share a little and get their PPC in order.. but they aint no Google.

DD

RawAlex 2006-01-27 04:21 PM

MSN search is really nice, mostly because they do rotate their top listings, which really does make me feel good about what they are doing. While I know it makes it harder and harder to get top listings, I am liking generally what I see and it seems to work out.

Tommy, I agree with Linkster on this one, I can see MSN getting bigger and bigger, and becoming a more solid player as time goes on. When the next version of IE and Windows Vista comes out, look for the integration to be MUCH tighter.

Alex

MadMax 2006-01-27 06:02 PM

I'm very encouraged by what I've seen from MSN in the last six months or so. Not a ton of traffic, but I've been getting some really nice, stable traffic to some of my niche hubs that are tightly targeted. I'm looking forward to seeing what will be coming in the future.

juggernaut 2006-01-27 06:42 PM

I think if they really focus they will do well. I to am seeing a good amount of traffic from them the last 2 months. Now I tend to think of this as a couple of ways. 1) either they are getting better 2) all the computers that were bought at christmas with pre-installed free msn accounts etc.
I know a girl who bought one the past christmas and is using msn cause it is free for like 6 months or something.
The main thing that scares me with them is MS has had some great ideas that they get rolling but in the end seem to always fall short. IE .net can anyone tell me really what .net is supposed to do? I remember a few years back I was at a MS conference and it was supposed to make a paperless office and have every pda being able to access everything from medical records to car maintainence records.

Ramster 2006-01-27 07:20 PM

I don't know about getting bigger but I see a lot of hits from them and they are basically the same terms I rank high for at Google.

I'm liking it. :)

Preacher 2006-01-27 07:53 PM

I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I'd be backing alta-vista. |loony|

Seriously though, competition among search engines can do little but benefit us by diversifying our listings. If we drop low on google, there's other SE traffic to be had. But that's just my ignorant opinion.

T Pat 2006-01-28 02:46 AM

MSN lost less ground to Google than Yahoo last year and when they stop useing Yahoos search results and go live with their version of Googles Adsense in June I think Yahoo will lose more ground. I wouldn't be surprised to see their new version of Internet Explorer launched this summer either.
When you add MSN Video and MSN TV together it makes MSN #1 in Online Broadcast Media and I can only see Online Broadcast Media getting more popular.
As Danger Dave said "they ain't no Google" I can't imagine them ever catching up to google, but that doesn't mean there isn't room for their stock to go up in value.
So to answer your question Tommy I think MSN would be a good investment.

Share of Online Searches Total U.S. Home, Work and University Internet Users

Nov 2004%
Nov 2005%
Point Change+/-

Total Internet Population
100
100
0

Google Sites
34.6
39.8
+5.2

Yahoo! Sites
32.0
29.5
-2.5

MSN-Microsoft Sites
16.0
14.2
-1.8

Time Warner Network
9.1
8.7
-0.4

Ask Jeeves
5.5
6.5
+1.0

Source: comScore qSearch, November 2005


Friday, January 13, 2006

Top 10 Online Broadcast Media Destinations Week ending December 18, 2005 US, Home and Work

Brand or Channel
Unique Audience (000)
Active Reach (%)

CBS
4,006
3.1

MSN Video
3,862
2.99

AOL Television
3,734
2.89

Yahoo! TV
3,131
2.43

BBC
2,962
2.3

Clear Channel Communications
2,835
2.2

NBC Universal
2,812
2.18

MSN TV
2,200
1.71

TV.com
1,672
1.3

Gannett Broadcasting
1,623
1.26

Source: Nielsen//NetRatings NetView

binxgook 2006-01-28 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preacher
I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I'd be backing alta-vista. |loony|

:D

nekrom 2006-01-29 01:23 AM

I could care less who is going to be the next se super power. All I care for is that MSN comes out of their BETA cpc tesing and opens it up to yoyo's like me to cash in on. :)

-N

Mr. Stiff 2006-01-29 03:31 AM

MSN brings you a lot of internet noobs, because it's integrated in IE/Windows.

I think this is a good thing.. These first-time internet users don't recognize affiliate links, never heard of usenet, etc..

Paul&John 2006-01-29 07:57 AM

After releasing WinVista i think there will be a huge jump in users searching with MSN, so be prepared :)

Paul&John 2006-01-29 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood
Tommy,

I believe they are beta testing it.

http://advertising.msn.com/msnadcenter/msnadcenter.asp

Quote:

Please Upgrade Your Browser
You are using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; Maxthon)
To view this site you must use:
Microsoft® Internet Explorer or Netscape® Navigator 4.0 or higher

Click here to find the latest free browser from Microsoft
getting this message with IE :)

Servhot 2006-01-29 10:48 AM

Works fine for me with Maxthon

Paul&John 2006-01-29 10:54 AM

Tried in Maxthon too :(

digifan 2006-01-29 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John
getting this message with IE :)

Works fine in firefox 1.5 :)


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