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Originally Posted by Bill
Some places will allow the "hub" linking you talk about, some will only allow it as the '3rd link out'. I've taken to doing it mostly as the '3rd link out' because of uptight LL webmasters.
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Before you're too harsh on "uptight LL webmasters" you might want to spend a day in the reviewer's seat
It's difficult for upstanding webmasters who submit quality sites to understand the kind of madness and chaos that passes across the reviewer's screen on a daily basis.
I've listed SE style free sites before, and I'm still willing to list them...but ONLY with prior contact and only for webmasters I know and only if the sites still follow the spirit of the listing guidelines. In fact, we've done a hard link trade between pussy-freepussy.com and one of my niche hubs
When I first launched Fetish Philes I listed several of these types of sites, then slowly but surely had to delete and ban because my recips were removed.
I couldn't list pussy-freepussy.com in my regular site listings, because there are basic rules that the site doesn't follow...blind links, and the page after the warning page is basically an FPA with a misleading enter link then a small link to get to the actual main page where the links to the content are. I can bend rules for SE benefit, but I can't throw them out the window and still maintain order.
That said, I'd still be willing to trade hard links between my category pages and this type of site. If your end game really is SEO, then perhaps you should look in this direction. You'd likely find a lot more LL owners willing to trade hard links with you than set dangerous precedents by listing sites that don't follow the rules.
What you're calling a "free site" in this application is really a hubbed out warning page with a standard freesite back end. My big concern on this type of site is what it may turn into as more and more links are added.
Why not fully utilize the hub like many others do (including myself)?
Use the domain root as the hub (still with a warning and main page) and do all your trades there, then build standard free sites in subdirectories to submit to link lists...all of which are listed on the hub's main page. Your links from the hub's main page to your free sites can all be to clean warning pages without recips, and then follow on to the content of each individual free site.
This way you actually get to put more advertising between the surfer and the porn, plus get all the SEO benefits on the hub itself and a shitload more inbound links for the domain as a whole. Why settle for one link to your domain from each big LL when you can have as many as you can build free sites? Also put a link to your hub in with the recips on every mirrored warning page you submit. I'd be willing to list the standard free sites AS WELL AS do a hard link trade between the appropriate category page and the hub.
Also, I don't know how much time you've spend submitting standard free sites, but even on domains where I do nothing with the root I still see about 5% of surfers (all of them coming from a LL to a free site in a subdirectory) still backing out the subdirectories in the URL and going to the domain root (likely looking for more porn).
IMO, your net traffic and SEO will both be better with this model and you'll spend much less time frustrated.
Just a thought.