Root Domain Free Sites... who allows them?

[Sean416]

I am going to be submitting 30-40 free sites, on the root of domains. They don't fit the regular LL rules.. they have pics which open on html pages with a banner (top) and navigation menu (bottom), they have 20 recips to LLs and they have other hardlink trades on the index (under 10).

Obviously benefits are high PR backlink, lots of traffic, no shitty doorway pages, you'll get two links to your site (one on index recip, and one on main page) and there's 40 of em, not a one time thing.

Here's an example of what im talking about. But this is not a template, each one will be completely different.

I am going to be linking to these sites from my own network, so I can already assure a minimum of PR3, but I'm hoping they'll all be PR4-5 with the help of the LLs who will list them.

I'm looking for PR3+ cat page LLs.

Thanks!

PS: Just a little FYI, they'll all be teen/softcore/babe/amateur/model sites.

[Fonz]

Freesites on the root of a domain aren't a problem, the example you gave is (assuming you're going to submit that "freesite").

Just to sum up some issues:
- way to many links on every page
- less than 10 images on your gallery pages
- your pictures open on .html pages

[ArtWilliams]

Free sites in a root domain are likely not a problem (though I don't own a link list) but perhaps not a good use of the root. Why not put your free sites in directories and then use the root as a hub. The hub then will link to all your free sites. Use 1 outbound link per freesite page to link to the hub. That then creates your circle of porn.

---art

[Wazza]

Fine by me - with sites that size I'd consider em more of a link trade - feel free to send me a list if you want to trade with little old me

[Sean416]

Hi Fonz,
Did you read the post, or just the title?

Well again, incase I wasn't clear.. I'm not looking for critiques or suggestions on how to improve the site. I am just wondering who would be willing to accept sites like this on their LLs - as is. These types of freesites, although they don't conform with the standard rules, do have benefits. If you are a Link List owner who sees and appreciates the benefits of sites like these, then please post here so I can add your LL to the list.

Some people have PM'd me rather then posting here, and that's fine.. if you prefer to PM me no problem.

Thanks!

[Sean416]

I'm wishing I could change the title of the thread now. :p

Originally Posted by artwilliams

Free sites in a root domain are likely not a problem (though I don't own a link list) but perhaps not a good use of the root. Why not put your free sites in directories and then use the root as a hub. The hub then will link to all your free sites. Use 1 outbound link per freesite page to link to the hub. That then creates your circle of porn.

---art

Thanks for your concern Art. I have my reasons for doing things like this, and I'm sure those who want the site on their LLs understand those reasons.

[Sean416]

Originally Posted by Wazza

Fine by me - with sites that size I'd consider em more of a link trade - feel free to send me a list if you want to trade with little old me

Somebody understands!

Yeah, they will be a great backlink and source of traffic for your sites. I've added your LL to the list.

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by Sean416

Hi Fonz,
Did you read the post, or just the title?

Hmmm... seems I missed a few lines, sorry for that

[MrYum]

Note: This is not an open invite for others to submit these kinds of sites. Please check with me first or your sites will most likely be declined.

That said, Sean...I'd be happy to list sites like the one you posted

[Useless]

Originally Posted by MrYum

Note: This is not an open invite for others to submit these kinds of sites. Please check with me first or your sites will most likely be declined.

That said, Sean...I'd be happy to list sites like the one you posted

Same here. Bill has me increasingly interested in linking to these types of sites.
http://www.whoringwives.com/tgp/site-submit.php
http://www.filthyearl.com/add.php

[MadMax]

As long as they stay clean I'll be happy to list them. I'm all for SEO. I should mention that I never list these type of sites without prior discussion with the webmaster. If you choose to submit them to me, just make sure you leave me a note in the "comments" section of the submit form so I know it's you

[Sean416]

Originally Posted by Fonz

Hmmm... seems I missed a few lines, sorry for that

No need to apologize, I'm often guilty of the same crime.

[Sean416]

Thanks MrYum, UW and Max.

And yeah, I figured having prior approval would be a big part of this, so thanks for your approval! :p

[plateman]

I'll list them, if they fit the general LL rules..

[natalie]

Originally Posted by MrYum

Note: This is not an open invite for others to submit these kinds of sites. Please check with me first or your sites will most likely be declined.

That said, Sean...I'd be happy to list sites like the one you posted

Same for my two below but please use ur board name so I know who it is.

[wolfie]

Looking good Sean and you're welcome to submit those kind of sites to Porn Hawk.
If you have big list and don't want to waste time by filling forms, just drop me a PM or email.

And same as MadMax said, regular this kind sites get declined. Need to talk first.

[Greenguy]

I do remember why I skipped over this...it was because I didn't see a problem with free sites on the domain's root.

After actually reading the post, it's not really about that, is it

20 recips with 10 extra text links seems a bit too much. I do still allow pics on html pages, but the navigation links with all the extra stuff with them pretty much break my rules, as do all the sponsor links on the main page. There's also not enough pics per page.

It is an interesting concept, but it breaks too many of my rules

[Cleo]

Ditto on what Greenguy just said.

[Sean416]

20 recips with 10 extra links = 30 outbound links. thats still more then enough to pass on some good link pop from my site to yours.
With these sites because they're on domains and take much more time to make them the submitter has to make sure it's worth his while financially to make them. The extra links at the bottom of the index provide me with PR and little traffic. hardly a burden on the LLs im submitting to. The navigational links at the bottom of the pic pages are just to help distribute PR amongst the internal pages.

What I tried to do with the linking structure of these sites is create something that sends traffic and PR to the LLs that list me, while also giving links to the sites whom im using content. But primarily these sites are made to get Search Engine traffic and to spread PR amongst those who are involved. Oh, the other thing, is that there is 8 pictures per gallery and 5 galleries in total which makes for 40 pictures. If LL owners have a problem with that, I would be willing to rework it so there's less galleries and more pictures per gallery. I just thought this setup was more beneficial to everyone involved.

If you think about 30-40 of these sites, they would be very beneficial to anyone who would list them. the main thing would be to look at them as a link exchange rather then a freesite listing.


Pros
High PR distribution
2 Links to your LL
Traffic from both index and main page
30-40 of these sites, so not a one time thing

Cons
More outbound links then normal
Surfers see more ads

If you think about the cons, a PR4-5 page with 30 outbound links is still a better backlink then a PR2 page with 12-16 outbound links.

Surfers see more links on the pages, some of which being sponsor ads. But I think it's a reasonable request to put a few extra links on the pages considering the extra effort/thought/time/money that goes into these sites. In the end, I'm not trying to rip off the surfers nor the LLs who list me, I'm just trying to make sure this is a profitable venture.

Please give me your thoughts GreenGuy and Cleo, I appreciate your replies to this thread.

[Greenguy]

Here's the problem with it breaking my rules - I'd either have to change my rules, which I really don't want to do OR I'd have to make a special exception for your sites, which would lead to others wanting the exemption & that's something that I don't really want to get in the habit of. Pretty much everyone follows the rules...except me

[Sean416]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Here's the problem with it breaking my rules - I'd either have to change my rules, which I really don't want to do OR I'd have to make a special exception for your sites, which would lead to others wanting the exemption & that's something that I don't really want to get in the habit of. Pretty much everyone follows the rules...except me

I see your point, and thats valid. My thinking was it wasn't that large of a problem to make an exception when you saw the benefits. Most LL owners have just said "aslong you content me beforehand im okay with it". But yeah, I understand your point and thats cool.

[RedCherry]

Originally Posted by MrYum

Note: This is not an open invite for others to submit these kinds of sites. Please check with me first or your sites will most likely be declined.

That said, Sean...I'd be happy to list sites like the one you posted

I echo Mr. Yum. Feel free to submit them to my link lists too. I'm all for SEO optimization also. Glad to see the model/softcore/amateur too, make them pay for hardcore, that is what I say.

Also, use your board handle, so I know who you are too.

[MrYum]

Hey there...NICE to see you posting RC

[RedCherry]

Originally Posted by MrYum

Hey there...NICE to see you posting RC

Hi MrYum! I am trying to get MadHatter to post here too, I told him last night you were on the board.

I get so busy I don't go on boards often, this is the only one I post on anymore, except one other board where I posted some pics of my cat yesterday, lol. Just had to they were all posting THEIR cats.

MadHatter checks boards for me and lets me know if something major is happening to check out. Lately I've been in the "build a free site a day and submit" mode, plus working on a non-adult site for a client, plus changing out sponsor links on link list, plus trying to sell our house, plus.... lol you know how it goes.

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by RedCherry

Hi MrYum! I am trying to get MadHatter to post here too, I told him last night you were on the board.

I get so busy I don't go on boards often, this is the only one I post on anymore, except one other board where I posted some pics of my cat yesterday, lol. Just had to they were all posting THEIR cats.

MadHatter checks boards for me and lets me know if something major is happening to check out. Lately I've been in the "build a free site a day and submit" mode, plus working on a non-adult site for a client, plus changing out sponsor links on link list, plus trying to sell our house, plus.... lol you know how it goes.

I know exactly how it goes...never enough hours in the day

Yea, tell him to get his gnarly self over here...lots of good folks and info on this board

Sorry for the lil thread jack there Sean...haven't talked to the lady in a long while. I'll shut up now

Now, back to your regularly sheduled discussion about Sean's root domain sites...which I still plan on listing