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Old 2005-05-18, 09:41 PM   #1
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3 links per page rule??

I am confused about the 3 links per page rule on most LL submit pages. Is that 3 links total including banners and text links?

Having a text link right below a banner makes it more effective but does this then count as 2. It is of course 2 sepearate links as far as the code is concerned. But they are effectively one visualy. IMHO.

But what do I know?
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Old 2005-05-18, 10:19 PM   #2
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A banner with a line of text above and/or below should be considered 1, if they are all 1 ad.

Old school LL always have it worded as "3 sponsor ads per page". In general I'd stay with that interpretation personally.

Also, you can easily make it all within 1 href statement if someone is a stickler. href, text, br, banner, br, close href.
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Old 2005-05-18, 10:26 PM   #3
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I agree with PR Tom, 3 ads per page, not 3 links per page. At least that's how I try to build. An ad could be a 2 colulmn table with a banner on one side, and text and a link on the other side, and that should be counted 1 ad, IF i'm not mistaken.

*Edited* For LL owners, would you count a table ad with 2 outgoing links one ad if it had a border, and what about if it did not have a border?
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For table ads (ie money bar type things) each link out is a link. This is doubly so when the links go to different places. If you have an ad inside a bordered table that has two links off to the SAME site, I might count it as one link.

Please note: Maximum 3 lines of linked text together before I start shaking my head and clicking "no thanks".

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Old 2005-05-19, 01:33 AM   #5
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Thanks Alex. I understand.
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Old 2005-05-19, 03:28 AM   #6
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So is this rule generaly subjective to the reviewer and not scruttenized by a script that can't tell the difference between a banner with a text link to the same site just below it.

I like to add a text link just bellow my banner links to make it more effective but if this is counting as two links it makes it difficult to strategically place 3 links over the page.
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Old 2005-05-19, 04:20 AM   #7
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So is this rule generaly subjective to the reviewer and not scruttenized by a script that can't tell the difference between a banner with a text link to the same site just below it.

I like to add a text link just bellow my banner links to make it more effective but if this is counting as two links it makes it difficult to strategically place 3 links over the page.
As said before in this thread you can put the banner + text link within the same A HREF tag. Problem solved...
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Old 2005-05-19, 04:53 AM   #8
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As said before in this thread you can put the banner + text link within the same A HREF tag. Problem solved...
Someone's got to show me an actual sample of code so i can do it.
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Someone's got to show me an actual sample of code so i can do it.
<a href="http://www.yoursponsor.com"><img src="banner.gif" border=0><br><font color="#000000">Click here to see midgets getting fucked by 3 titted ladies</font></a>

Notice you only use 1 <a href> tag for both banner and text.
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Old 2005-05-19, 06:25 AM   #10
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<a href="http://www.yoursponsor.com"><img src="banner.gif" border=0><br><font color="#000000">Click here to see midgets getting fucked by 3 titted ladies</font></a>

Notice you only use 1 <a href> tag for both banner and text.
didn't you mean "Click here to see Fonz getting Cheetoed by a big breasted Sammy"?
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Old 2005-05-19, 06:42 AM   #11
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"Clickable area" would probably be a good way to count links. I've never been turned down for using a sliced HPA with as many as 9 separate a tags.

On the other hand I have been rejected for a stray a tag that got lost when I was shuffling things around in WYSIWYG mode and wasn't even visible on the page, so I guess you'll always be at the mercy of the particular reviewer.
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Old 2005-05-19, 06:49 AM   #12
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Greenguy Your banner ads?

I got a question about your banners! Your site is pretty popular and I definitely need to be on it, but I got these nice clean warning pages with links to adult search engines & link lists that i am just now signing up with! Here they are, I have a bunch of the adult engines on em all and am currently going through the signup on all the ones I have listed.

I am also taking note of all the links they each list on thier friends sites and adding them to a text file for inclusion on the warning pages.

My question is this:
You have a ton of banners to list on my warning page and so do so many of the other lists. There is no way I can put 100 different banners on that page and keep it pretty and neat, lol... Here are the pages:
Free Sex Movies
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Let me know whats, what, ok?
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Old 2005-05-19, 07:28 AM   #13
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I got a question about your banners! Your site is pretty popular and I definitely need to be on it...
Who are you addressing?
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You have a ton of banners to list on my warning page and so do so many of the other lists.
What do you mean by 'banners'? I don't see any banners on your index pages. I do she a shit-load of text links to different sites though. Firstly, lets realize that your example sites are not free sites. They look like TGPs to me. Most link lists don't list TGPs anyway. And if they did, their link would have to be above the enter link, not below it.

PS.- You have a very impressive amount of hidden text on those pages.
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Old 2005-05-19, 07:39 AM   #14
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I got a question about your banners! Your site is pretty popular and I definitely need to be on it, but I got these nice clean warning pages with links to adult search engines & link lists that i am just now signing up with! Here they are, I have a bunch of the adult engines on em all and am currently going through the signup on all the ones I have listed.

I am also taking note of all the links they each list on thier friends sites and adding them to a text file for inclusion on the warning pages.

My question is this:
You have a ton of banners to list on my warning page and so do so many of the other lists. There is no way I can put 100 different banners on that page and keep it pretty and neat, lol... Here are the pages:
Free Sex Movies
Free Amateur Movies
Free Big Tit Movies

Let me know whats, what, ok?
I would try to let you know whats, what, but I have no idea what the hell you are talking about whats
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Old 2005-05-19, 12:54 PM   #15
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My question is this:
You have a ton of banners to list on my warning page and so do so many of the other lists. There is no way I can put 100 different banners on that page and keep it pretty and neat, lol...

Let me know whats, what, ok?
I am not sure what you are talking about either, but I think you might be talking about linklist recips, is that what you are calling banners?

Most LL's have some kind of limit to howmany recips you can put on a page, and 100 recip "banners" would not be accepted anywhere. Try 12 on each page, then mirror your sites and put a new site of recips on them.
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Simply put a banner with a text link below it is counted as 1 link. Same a href or not, 1 link.
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O.K. I got it down pat now, thanks.

As for 2serveu's post, I think I diciphered her obscure code. The post was directed to GreenGuy. She is talking about his recip links for Link-o-rama. She thought she had to use all of them. Didn't realise you just grab one for the category that suites best. And then add others form other sites you want to submit to.

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What do you mean UW? I cant find it. It's hiding, and hiding, and no-one knows where. All they can see are its toes and its hair
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Old 2005-05-19, 03:35 PM   #18
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What do you mean UW? I cant find it. It's hiding, and hiding, and no-one knows where. All they can see are its toes and its hair
Follow the first link and click/drag to highlight the whole page. There's a shitload of black text on black background, which is a SE blacklist waiting to happen. I could never list or trade links with a page like that.
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Old 2005-05-19, 03:47 PM   #19
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Dude, That was a joke. Read that again, see how it rhymes. I know where it is hiding, so do the search engines.
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Dude, That was a joke. Read that again, see how it rhymes. I know where it is hiding, so do the search engines.

DOH! I'm just having one of those days
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Old 2005-05-19, 04:19 PM   #21
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Hey MadMax,

Check your email. I requested a link exchange with DailyWanker a day or two ago.
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Nice board. |shocking| Ya gotta be careful here.

I am a new webmaster. You weren't there to guide me when i built the page, so i just run searches on my target words and see what the top rated guys did.

That page is similar in design to a top rated warning page. What he did was to use different shades of black, i stayed ith his theme and did the same. I even went a step futher and lightened the background, but replaced it with a black pixel image.

As far as my question, I thought it was blunt. I was asking if it was necessary to put your banner on my page (greenguy) in order to be listed.
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Who are you addressing?
What do you mean by 'banners'? I don't see any banners on your index pages. I do she a shit-load of text links to different sites though. Firstly, lets realize that your example sites are not free sites. They look like TGPs to me. Most link lists don't list TGPs anyway. And if they did, their link would have to be above the enter link, not below it.
I just created the warning pages 2 days ago, this morning I moved the links above it when i realized that most of them required to be above my enter link. I just put everything in the one table as neatly as i could.

I still have some work to do on 2 of the banners, I just wanted to get a list i had prepared for those link lists finished.

It's just me and i am learning as i go along. When i don't know how to do something, I poke around the net and try to figure out how the top listed sites designed thier stuff. I had the same thoughts about the hidden text in the page, but the page was #1 for my keywords, then after i saw what he did with the different shades of black for text and background, I just figured that it must be alright?
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I still have some work to do on 2 of the banners, I just wanted to get a list i had prepared for those link lists finished.
Stop staying banners! You're killing me over here. A banner is a graphic. I assumed that you are referring to reciprocal links. What you have done with your links isn't correct if you plan on getting listed on link lists. You are looking for link trades, which is another beast entirely.
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It's just me and i am learning as i go along. When i don't know how to do something, I poke around the net and try to figure out how the top listed sites designed thier stuff.
Don't poke around anymore. The net is a scary place. Ask your questions here and you'll find yourself progressing rather quickly. You'll learn a lot more here than you will wandering around all alone. Plus, if you plan getting those link trades someday, you're going to need to make freinds with site owners. Many people only trade links with those that they 'know' and trust.
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I had the same thoughts about the hidden text in the page, but the page was #1 for my keywords, then after i saw what he did with the different shades of black for text and background, I just figured that it must be alright?
Don't use the hidden text. It's junk. For search engines - the lower on the page it is, the less significant it is. The smaller the font, the significant it is. Even if you dupe them by using a background image instead of bgcolor, the text is probably going to be a waste of time. Look at the big sites that you want to trade links with. You won't find any hidden text.
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Old 2005-05-21, 12:26 PM   #25
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Let me back up a few steps. lol...

I wanted to promote my my site. So I did a search for adult search engines. I came to this page: Adult Chamber .

So, my first assumption was that these guys are all specialized for adults. I started going to each one and most of them wanted a recip link. So I went through every page and gathered all the recip information and made a list. Then i updated my warning page to that list and took out the ones that were clearly not adult site lists or content related.

Then I went back and submitted. My goal wasto hit the adult engines, nothing else. As I went through the pages, I saw links on those pages to other places, so i started gathering them as well.

You know, things like this: "Other great places to submit your sites" or "Be sure to submit your sites here as well".

Somewhere in there was the greenguy page and a ton of others. When I go to those sites, a bunch of them want you to download a "flashing graphic link" and so on... I am realizing now that those sites are gallery submit sites and not adult site lists. This is where the confusion lies.

As far as that text goes, the small text losing significance and it being low on the page, This I didn't know. But I SWEAR, the page is identical in "practice" to the top rated page for my target keywords when i ran the search on google.

I didn't do anything like that on my pages, I just did it on my warning page. But, I'll take your advice and get rid of everything deceptive on that page when i update it.

I think that my objective can be achieved with my hardlink trades on that page anyway.

Can you guys give me some good lists of adult engines or sites that list sites like mine that I should be submitting to?
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