Do you sue flash banners

Tommy · 2005-10-21, 03:36 PM

Some surfers have active x turned off

do you consider this when chosing banners

would you like to see more flash ads from sponsors

Torn Rose · 2005-10-21, 03:40 PM

lol... thought you was wanting to sue the people who use noisy flash banners...

Jel · 2005-10-21, 03:41 PM

I have no active x enabled, just can't get it to work on this system, but it's a constant reminder to me that not everyone can see them, so if I *did* have the active x facility, I prolly wouldn't use them, or at least not often.

Bill · 2005-10-21, 04:08 PM

I've made a fair number of sales using the old topbucks flash banners. But, they haven't come out with new ones in a while. And, a fair number of linksites don't allow them and AFAIK almost no TGPs allow them.

So, you have fewer places to use them, and most sponsors have pretty much stopped making new ones.

The CE flash HPAs and FPAs and dropdowns were pretty impressive to look at, but I didn't make any noticeable sales from them. Didn't use them that often tho.

I would use them on SE pages and linklist pages if more were available.

However, I also surf with activex turned off.

Cleo · 2005-10-21, 04:16 PM

I tried them but found too many issues with them like not allowed at my places that I build for and then there is the issue with PCs.

Agent · 2005-10-21, 04:23 PM

I use a Firefox plugin to have them disabled unless I click on them. I enable the ones here once in a while (when looking for sponsors), but for the most part I never look at them. I'm sure a lot of surfers disable them too.

Tommy · 2005-10-21, 06:24 PM

I have active x turned off also

but i started using them in a few places and noticed good results

I am not sure I want them all over the place but....
more money is more money

Corleone · 2005-10-21, 08:24 PM

its all about the benjamins

but I think ~ 20% of your visitors won't see them because of old browsers, flash disabled...

juggernaut · 2005-10-21, 10:05 PM

I think more an more people are just plain out scared to turn any of that stuff on. The average user dont even know whats going on. They have a scary enough time shutting off pop ups. Give them and active x and they shit their pants thinking they have been hacked. Which in some cases could be true. I think the old addive would work best in the future in keeping it as simple as possible.

MrYum · 2005-10-21, 10:24 PM

Yea, I used some flash banners on a few gay sites a couple years ago. They did pull pretty well at that time, but probably no better than a well written text link does today. I'd like to think my text has gotten better since then anyway

Agree with the others, these days...probably the majority of surfers would never see em anyway. Or, they'd trigger some alarm and turn off the sale entirely.

After so many sponsors wanted banners yanked a few months ago, I went text only on free sites for a while. Noticed text does pull as well if not better than banners. Just recently, I've started using banners again...primarily because it's easier than pulling the text out of my head at times

Long answer sorry...

Short answer is...nope, I don't really even consider using flash banners these days. Too many downsides to em.

Tommy · 2005-10-21, 10:32 PM

but if you go to a lot of big main stream sites like toyota.com

they are loaded with flash

I think the surfer that has activex set to prompt knows that those prompts are for a lot of different stuff

SirMoby · 2005-10-22, 08:50 AM

Accoring to IDC over 98% of all surfers can view flash animation.

Don't think the average surfer or even 90% of the surfers are sophisticated enough to change any setting in IE. At work where the IS department has control of the desktops then no one should be running active content but even there most IS departments don't have a clue.

Obviously too much animation will provide overload and defeat the purpose of any animation but a little here and there, why not?

Those 2% of surfers that can't see it are soffisticated enough to change thier settings or they're on a PC that can't access porn any way.

tranza · 2005-10-22, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

Some surfers have active x turned off

do you consider this when chosing banners

would you like to see more flash ads from sponsors

Hey Tommy,

I sent you an e-mail earlier today. Are you still taking new partner accounts?

tranza · 2005-10-22, 06:43 PM

Sorry for the off-topic btw...

Here's my reply to the topic:

I wouldn't use flash on any of my sites simply because I'd be losing traffic (as you said before). I never even look for flash stuff on my sponsors.

Halfdeck · 2005-10-23, 03:52 AM

Some mainstream sites make my porn sites look like they were built in the stone age.

Flash is also fun to build, so it's definitely an option especially when I'm bored.

2005-10-21, 03:36 PM	#1
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2005-10-21, 04:16 PM	#5
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2005-10-21, 04:23 PM	#6
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2005-10-21, 06:24 PM	#7
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	I have active x turned off also but i started using them in a few places and noticed good results I am not sure I want them all over the place but.... more money is more money __________________ Accepting New partners

2005-10-21, 08:24 PM	#8
Corleone And Lord, we are especially thankful for nuclear power, the cleanest, safest energy source there is. Except for solar, which is just a pipe dream Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 229	its all about the benjamins but I think ~ 20% of your visitors won't see them because of old browsers, flash disabled... __________________ promote our new ANIME site at Deecash

2005-10-21, 03:40 PM	#2
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	lol... thought you was wanting to sue the people who use noisy flash banners...

2005-10-21, 03:41 PM	#3
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	I have no active x enabled, just can't get it to work on this system, but it's a constant reminder to me that not everyone can see them, so if I did have the active x facility, I prolly wouldn't use them, or at least not often.

2005-10-21, 04:08 PM	#4
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	I've made a fair number of sales using the old topbucks flash banners. But, they haven't come out with new ones in a while. And, a fair number of linksites don't allow them and AFAIK almost no TGPs allow them. So, you have fewer places to use them, and most sponsors have pretty much stopped making new ones. The CE flash HPAs and FPAs and dropdowns were pretty impressive to look at, but I didn't make any noticeable sales from them. Didn't use them that often tho. I would use them on SE pages and linklist pages if more were available. However, I also surf with activex turned off.

2005-10-21, 10:05 PM	#9
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	I think more an more people are just plain out scared to turn any of that stuff on. The average user dont even know whats going on. They have a scary enough time shutting off pop ups. Give them and active x and they shit their pants thinking they have been hacked. Which in some cases could be true. I think the old addive would work best in the future in keeping it as simple as possible.

2005-10-21, 10:24 PM	#10
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	Yea, I used some flash banners on a few gay sites a couple years ago. They did pull pretty well at that time, but probably no better than a well written text link does today. I'd like to think my text has gotten better since then anyway Agree with the others, these days...probably the majority of surfers would never see em anyway. Or, they'd trigger some alarm and turn off the sale entirely. After so many sponsors wanted banners yanked a few months ago, I went text only on free sites for a while. Noticed text does pull as well if not better than banners. Just recently, I've started using banners again...primarily because it's easier than pulling the text out of my head at times Long answer sorry... Short answer is...nope, I don't really even consider using flash banners these days. Too many downsides to em. __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2005-10-21, 10:32 PM	#11
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	but if you go to a lot of big main stream sites like toyota.com they are loaded with flash I think the surfer that has activex set to prompt knows that those prompts are for a lot of different stuff __________________ Accepting New partners

2005-10-22, 08:50 AM	#12
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	Accoring to IDC over 98% of all surfers can view flash animation. Don't think the average surfer or even 90% of the surfers are sophisticated enough to change any setting in IE. At work where the IS department has control of the desktops then no one should be running active content but even there most IS departments don't have a clue. Obviously too much animation will provide overload and defeat the purpose of any animation but a little here and there, why not? Those 2% of surfers that can't see it are soffisticated enough to change thier settings or they're on a PC that can't access porn any way.

2005-10-22, 06:43 PM	#14
tranza A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brasil!!! Posts: 59	Sorry for the off-topic btw... Here's my reply to the topic: I wouldn't use flash on any of my sites simply because I'd be losing traffic (as you said before). I never even look for flash stuff on my sponsors. __________________ ICQ: 197-556-237 \| E-mail me

2005-10-23, 03:52 AM	#15
Halfdeck You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 985	Some mainstream sites make my porn sites look like they were built in the stone age. Flash is also fun to build, so it's definitely an option especially when I'm bored. __________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.