"Young"

matt · 2003-10-02, 04:05 AM

When submitting freesites is it ok to use the word "young" in the title, description and promotions?

I've been keeping away from it up until now, but I pretty much think "young blonde" is ok, "young teen" is not and "young girl" is kind of borderline.

What do you think?

Jeremy · 2003-10-02, 04:49 AM

Hehehe matt - I think this discussion rears it's head once a month or so.

A few people seem to be completely against any use of the word young, some people don't appear to mind too much, and for what seems like the majority of others, it's pretty much dependent on the context - much as you've outlined below.

Wazza · 2003-10-02, 04:51 AM

Agree - agree - disagree - I think you should avoid young girl as well...

College girl, coed, or teen all achieve the same meaning without having to reinforce it with young imo...

Linkster · 2003-10-02, 05:53 AM

If I see the word young in a submit I will usually be very particular on what I will list. The context will definitely make the difference

matt · 2003-10-02, 05:57 AM

Jeremy - Yeah, I know

Wazza - I usually steer clear of it, but the reason I asked is because there's a nice site I'm about to start promoting that's got young in the title.

Thanks for the replys

Surfn · 2003-10-02, 07:56 AM

matt

It's your site do what you want with it. Just remember that many of the LL's are controlled by their billing processors and they won't pay if the word is used to sell. Plus here in the states they fear legal reprisals as well.

Cleo · 2003-10-02, 08:02 AM

I actually prefer "Young Ladies" over "Teens."

That being said it is an instant decline for "young girl," "young teen" and a bunch of other combos using the word young.

jennym · 2003-10-02, 08:17 AM

I'm with Cleo on this one. I prefer "young ladies", or "young woman". "Young girls and "young teens" get tossed.

Greenguy · 2003-10-02, 09:23 AM

As soon as I find a few hours to do it, I will be removing the word "young" from all my links - I'm thinking of replacing it with "18-19 year old"

MrMaryLou · 2003-10-02, 10:52 AM

The word young alone is harmless but its the abuse of the word that makes me perk up when I see it

RawAlex · 2003-10-02, 11:39 AM

It's like a double negative...

Usual math: If teen is 13 to 19, young teen must be 13 - 15 (mature teen being 18-19, I guess).

Young by itself (as in young wife, young teacher, young amateur) doesn't really ring bells. Combine it with the wrong words (as in young teen, young schoolgirl, young girl) and you have an issue.

It's sort of like non-nude teens. Although a 19 year old girl can be "non-nude", in the end, non-nude is a KP trigger word for those "molly model" type sites featuring 14 and 15 year olds in sexy poses. YES, a 19 year old non-nude is legal... but that ain't the issue!

While the content might be legal, and all the girls over 18, using those terms I think is pandering to pedophiles. Yes, you will get a bunch of traffic, but I suspect you won't get sales because you don't have what they are looking for.

When I find them in listings or in sites I built in the past, I fix them or remove the listings.

Alex

urb · 2003-10-03, 06:15 AM

I personally don't like teen stuff.
(Give me mature or bbw any day of the week!)

But the Internet is like the wild west without a sherrif - so you have to make your own choice.

Correct me if I am wrong, but girls only have to be 16 to appear in British newspapers topless.

Cleo · 2003-10-03, 07:53 AM

There is the problem, it is called the world wide web for a reason, laws are different everywhere.

Since I'm in America I go with the law here, not that I think turning 18 makes anyone magically able to deal with adult subjects any better.

Jeremy · 2003-10-03, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by urb
Correct me if I am wrong, but girls only have to be 16 to appear in British newspapers topless.

You're not wrong - but the parent's / guardians have to sign the model release since they're not old enough to commit to a legal contract.... which always strikes me as a trifle bizarre.

It may just be a newspaper thing here in the UK, since you don't see it in mags or on the web.

Greenguy · 2003-10-03, 09:03 AM

Silly, silly Brits

DangerDave · 2003-10-03, 09:55 AM

Maybe 16 year old boobs are "news" in the UK

DD

Cleo · 2003-10-03, 10:01 AM

When I think of the UK I think of Monty Python and Benny Hill in drag.

Jeremy · 2003-10-03, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
Silly, silly Brits

Hehe - one of the political parties over here wants to lower the age at which you can buy stuff from sex shops down to 16. It makes a modicum of sense when you consider you can have sex at 16 but can't buy material related to it until you're 18.....

BTW - I did a bit of hunting and it appears that you can model nude at 16, but full-frontal nudity is not allowed until you're 18. Hence the 16 year olds who have appeared topless in our best-selling daily newspapers in the past, but not anywhere else.

Surfn · 2003-10-03, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy
Hehe - one of the political parties over here wants to lower the age at which you can buy stuff from sex shops down to 16. It makes a modicum of sense when you consider you can have sex at 16 but can't buy material related to it until you're 18.....

When I lived in the Soho area it was pretty much wide open, illegal, but wide open none the less |rasta|

RawAlex · 2003-10-03, 10:53 AM

Since most of the billing for major sites is done in the US, and the US says "age 18, 2257 blah blah blah", that is the standard that we apply.

No matter what YOUR local laws are, I know what mine are, so getting listed on my site means following my local laws. I don't want to end up in the pokey because of anyone else's sites... my own are enough. :-)

Alex

urb · 2003-10-03, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawAlex
Since most of the billing for major sites is done in the US, and the US says "age 18, 2257 blah blah blah", that is the standard that we apply.

No matter what YOUR local laws are, I know what mine are, so getting listed on my site means following my local laws. I don't want to end up in the pokey because of anyone else's sites... my own are enough. :-)

Alex is right. The benchmark for the Internet is the USA.

But the benchmark for comedy has to be the UK.

RawAlex · 2003-10-03, 02:48 PM

A little reverse on this one...

while doing reviews today, I ran into a whole pile of "mature woman and young boy" sites... they are all eastern euro sites featuring mid age women and skinny boys. I suspect that all the models are over 18, but the implication is enough for me to reject them.

Pandering to pedophiles isn't any better than being one, I think.

Alex

Cleo · 2003-10-03, 02:59 PM

I've been hitting decline on those as well.

I don't care if the models are ninety years old, they look too young.

Linkster · 2003-10-03, 03:39 PM

been seeing a huge increase in that niche as well...unfortunate that people go down the "pandering" route instead of marketing them a different way - college freshmen with the deans wife type thing instead of the older woman/young boy theme...it sure looks like it would sell to the college crowd

jennym · 2003-10-03, 03:45 PM

I declined one of those this morning myself. I have declined some in the past because the guys looked to young. The one this morning was borderline. I MAY have listed the site, except all the banners said "Mature women with young boys". That got the delete button immediately.

2003-10-02, 04:05 AM	#1
matt Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 123	"Young" When submitting freesites is it ok to use the word "young" in the title, description and promotions? I've been keeping away from it up until now, but I pretty much think "young blonde" is ok, "young teen" is not and "young girl" is kind of borderline. What do you think? __________________ Link List Land - Linklist Creation, Design and Implementation.

2003-10-02, 04:51 AM	#3
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	Agree - agree - disagree - I think you should avoid young girl as well... College girl, coed, or teen all achieve the same meaning without having to reinforce it with young imo... __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me

2003-10-02, 05:53 AM	#4
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	If I see the word young in a submit I will usually be very particular on what I will list. The context will definitely make the difference __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2003-10-02, 05:57 AM	#5
matt Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 123	Jeremy - Yeah, I know Wazza - I usually steer clear of it, but the reason I asked is because there's a nice site I'm about to start promoting that's got young in the title. Thanks for the replys __________________ Link List Land - Linklist Creation, Design and Implementation.

2003-10-02, 07:56 AM	#6
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	matt It's your site do what you want with it. Just remember that many of the LL's are controlled by their billing processors and they won't pay if the word is used to sell. Plus here in the states they fear legal reprisals as well. __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2003-10-02, 04:49 AM	#2
Jeremy Remember to rebel against the authorities, kids! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: AU Posts: 406	Hehehe matt - I think this discussion rears it's head once a month or so. A few people seem to be completely against any use of the word young, some people don't appear to mind too much, and for what seems like the majority of others, it's pretty much dependent on the context - much as you've outlined below.

2003-10-02, 08:02 AM	#7
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I actually prefer "Young Ladies" over "Teens." That being said it is an instant decline for "young girl," "young teen" and a bunch of other combos using the word young. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-10-02, 08:17 AM	#8
jennym You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: the south Posts: 529	I'm with Cleo on this one. I prefer "young ladies", or "young woman". "Young girls and "young teens" get tossed.

2003-10-02, 09:23 AM	#9
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	As soon as I find a few hours to do it, I will be removing the word "young" from all my links - I'm thinking of replacing it with "18-19 year old" __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-10-02, 10:52 AM	#10
MrMaryLou i fucking told i type to fucking fast wtf Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 11,247	The word young alone is harmless but its the abuse of the word that makes me perk up when I see it __________________ <a href="http://www.greenguysboard.com/onthebench/">Join Me For On The Bench </a>

2003-10-02, 11:39 AM	#11
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	It's like a double negative... Usual math: If teen is 13 to 19, young teen must be 13 - 15 (mature teen being 18-19, I guess). Young by itself (as in young wife, young teacher, young amateur) doesn't really ring bells. Combine it with the wrong words (as in young teen, young schoolgirl, young girl) and you have an issue. It's sort of like non-nude teens. Although a 19 year old girl can be "non-nude", in the end, non-nude is a KP trigger word for those "molly model" type sites featuring 14 and 15 year olds in sexy poses. YES, a 19 year old non-nude is legal... but that ain't the issue! While the content might be legal, and all the girls over 18, using those terms I think is pandering to pedophiles. Yes, you will get a bunch of traffic, but I suspect you won't get sales because you don't have what they are looking for. When I find them in listings or in sites I built in the past, I fix them or remove the listings. Alex

2003-10-03, 06:15 AM	#12
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	I personally don't like teen stuff. (Give me mature or bbw any day of the week!) But the Internet is like the wild west without a sherrif - so you have to make your own choice. Correct me if I am wrong, but girls only have to be 16 to appear in British newspapers topless.

2003-10-03, 07:53 AM	#13
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	There is the problem, it is called the world wide web for a reason, laws are different everywhere. Since I'm in America I go with the law here, not that I think turning 18 makes anyone magically able to deal with adult subjects any better. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-10-03, 09:03 AM	#15
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Silly, silly Brits __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-10-03, 09:55 AM	#16
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Maybe 16 year old boobs are "news" in the UK DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-10-03, 10:01 AM	#17
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	When I think of the UK I think of Monty Python and Benny Hill in drag. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-10-03, 10:53 AM	#20
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Since most of the billing for major sites is done in the US, and the US says "age 18, 2257 blah blah blah", that is the standard that we apply. No matter what YOUR local laws are, I know what mine are, so getting listed on my site means following my local laws. I don't want to end up in the pokey because of anyone else's sites... my own are enough. :-) Alex

2003-10-03, 02:48 PM	#22
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	A little reverse on this one... while doing reviews today, I ran into a whole pile of "mature woman and young boy" sites... they are all eastern euro sites featuring mid age women and skinny boys. I suspect that all the models are over 18, but the implication is enough for me to reject them. Pandering to pedophiles isn't any better than being one, I think. Alex

2003-10-03, 02:59 PM	#23
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I've been hitting decline on those as well. I don't care if the models are ninety years old, they look too young. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-10-03, 03:39 PM	#24
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	been seeing a huge increase in that niche as well...unfortunate that people go down the "pandering" route instead of marketing them a different way - college freshmen with the deans wife type thing instead of the older woman/young boy theme...it sure looks like it would sell to the college crowd __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2003-10-03, 03:45 PM	#25
jennym You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: the south Posts: 529	I declined one of those this morning myself. I have declined some in the past because the guys looked to young. The one this morning was borderline. I MAY have listed the site, except all the banners said "Mature women with young boys". That got the delete button immediately.