The Official Who's Dissapointed With the last Google update thread

xxxjay · 2003-11-21, 03:58 PM

Now that the dust has settled...who is disappointed with the last google update?

I know a lot of people lost a lot of listings on this last reindex, I lost a few myself, but everall didn't make out that bad.

I was kind of dissapointed to see the spammers holding strong through it and mainstream stuff like HBO and CNN coming up under "Gay Sex" and "Sex Videos".

Feedback?

Linkster · 2003-11-21, 04:18 PM

Jay - I dont think its over yet - the datacenters are still really different - the PR hasnt been updated at all of them yet and the backlinks havent come across to all of them yet - theres a few filters they havent implemented yet either - probably wont be done for a few days - after the weekend I think

xxxjay · 2003-11-21, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linkster
Jay - I dont think its over yet - the datacenters are still really different - the PR hasnt been updated at all of them yet and the backlinks havent come across to all of them yet - theres a few filters they havent implemented yet either - probably wont be done for a few days - after the weekend I think

Yeah maybe, some of the most obvious spammers are still holding in there. It couldn't be that hard to catch, especially seeing as people are reporting them.

Bill · 2003-11-21, 04:54 PM

The serps are filled with garbage. It's just another typical google "improvement".

I'm seeing a big increase in nonadult expired domains crammed with spammy pages in the top 20.

DangerDave · 2003-11-21, 04:59 PM

Not over yet IMO.....

I lost some serious terms.. that are just completely unexplainable... so I don't think it is over yet..

Definitely seeing a huge spammer increase...

DD

Ramster · 2003-11-21, 05:52 PM

Google Updates?

Linkster · 2003-11-21, 07:02 PM

Just checked and there is an update to PR and backlinks sitting on one of the datacenters that isnt showing on the main www, 2 and 3 yet - I really think once those are factored in (cause it looks like alot of people here got more backlinks) there will be some major shifts this weekend

xxxjay · 2003-11-21, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
Not over yet IMO.....

I lost some serious terms.. that are just completely unexplainable... so I don't think it is over yet..

Definitely seeing a huge spammer increase...

DD

Yeah - the spam is what bother me. Maybe there's still a filter they have not kicked in yet.

Linkster · 2003-11-21, 07:49 PM

really in flux - they must be trying something really off the wall - do a search for a term on the normal web search - then do the same on the directory - the results are the same - never been that way before

ChristyB · 2003-11-21, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Linkster
really in flux - they must be trying something really off the wall - do a search for a term on the normal web search - then do the same on the directory - the results are the same - never been that way before

Off the wall is right - lol

It does seem to have a lot to do with the directory - then not - then yes - then not again - lol it's SO inconsistent.

Many searches are returning bullshit in terms of relevancy and it looks like a lot of the results listed (in all of the datacenters) are absent from the 'live search results'...

And I'm sure they haven't finished dealing with the spam - in fact right now it seems like spam sites have benefited...

Can't believe it's going to stay that way... Mind you - if it does at least it'll make seo easier to understand in future - lol.

I'm sure they have a fair chunk of work left to do yet...

Or then again maybe...

Maybe they just have to upload one more itsy bitsy little equasion and everything will POP perfectly into place - lol

I think patience is the only answer - or it's off to 'pink elephant land' for all of us

xxxjay · 2003-11-21, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linkster
really in flux - they must be trying something really off the wall - do a search for a term on the normal web search - then do the same on the directory - the results are the same - never been that way before

That may be sign they are about to stop using / devalueing DMOZ listings. DMOZ's time has come and gone. I can understand why google would do that.

eatapeach · 2003-11-21, 11:16 PM

i noticed that some of my sites PR went down, some of the sites even dropping all the way to PR0.

please somebody tell me this is just a temporary thing and i'll wake up tomorrow with everything like i want it to be

Freeway · 2003-11-22, 02:05 PM

Im way bummed out.
My best keyword was worth about 6000 hits a month. I was number one for about 9 months. I dont even think Im in the top 100 now. ( insert smilie of me hanging myself from a tree )

urb · 2003-11-22, 02:27 PM

Google has gone fuckin' mad.

Linkster · 2003-11-22, 05:17 PM

Urb

nahhh- they're just still dancing - watching the results go all over the place - just watched the SERPs for "sex" go from 280 mill to 3 mill then to 59 mill - its gonna get crazier before they're done - cant wait to see the filters for spam come in

theyve been promising wholesale changes - guess we'll have to see

urb · 2003-11-22, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by Linkster
Urb nahhh- they're just still dancing -

I'll sleep better now. Thanks Linkster.

xxxjay · 2003-11-22, 06:07 PM

yep - there's been another big shuffle in the serps since yesterday

still not making a ton on sense
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...oe=UTF-8&q=xxx

Jim · 2003-11-22, 06:28 PM

No...it is not over yet. Or at least it wasn't yesterday. And, I have not seen a difference yet.

urb · 2003-11-24, 04:24 AM

This doesn't look good to me.....

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...oe=UTF-8&q=xxx

xxxjay · 2003-11-24, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by urb
This doesn't look good to me.....

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...oe=UTF-8&q=xxx

Before that GG was #3 for xxx and I was #8 - now we are way back there. That was my #1 term too.

I think Google is trying to do something where they will show result from non-adult sites up ahead of the adult - I've been noticing that for a while. JUst seems to be bumping it up now.

Those spammers are still in there solidly.

urb · 2003-11-24, 12:01 PM

That sucks.

xxxjay · 2003-11-24, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urb
That sucks.

Yeah - I pretty much think the goose is cooked, for the time being. The new PRs are assigned - I have several pages that jumped in PR, but droped on SERPS - which proves what I've been saying all along - PR ain't as important as everyone thinks it is.

Alphawolf · 2003-11-24, 06:24 PM

Anyone check with the 'filter trick':

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=Google+Search

For a 3 word phrase ya need to put two gibberish filters on like:

kw1 kw2 kw3 -adfdfs -sfsff

And you'll see results without the stupidity.

Maybe it's good not to be in the 1st 1000 listings and that is the 'safe zone' before the next round of filters- I kid myself into thinking.

AW

xxxjay · 2003-11-24, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alphawolf
Anyone check with the 'filter trick':

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=Google+Search

For a 3 word phrase ya need to put two gibberish filters on like:

kw1 kw2 kw3 -adfdfs -sfsff

And you'll see results without the stupidity.

Maybe it's good not to be in the 1st 1000 listings and that is the 'safe zone' before the next round of filters- I kid myself into thinking.

AW

Very interesting - I can only hope your safe zone theory is right. The thing that pisses me if is not that Google is bringing up the competetion - it's just I can't really understand what they are doing now.

Nice find though man!

Alphawolf · 2003-11-24, 07:18 PM

xxxjay,

Wasn't my find. A guy on webmasterworld named 'Kackle' found it.

He calls it a 'dictionary' of phrases- but it seems like a 'phrase blacklist' to me.

It only trips certain phrases. There are so many posts in that Google Update thread it's crazy.

Have seen other people mention that there are SERP's where entire DMOZ lists don't appear.

This is the case for a site I manage which is in a *very* niche market and is only known by one term. In searching 'industry name company' not a single company pops up in Google. Nevermind the site I manage- quite literally *all* companies were ZAPPED from the results.

The #4 spot for 'industry name' previosuly held by the site I manage is now held by a free page on AOL. That site has about 50% of it's links pointing to domains that no longer exist.

I came across an odd datacenter by accident wherein the Google Web Directory was listed at #1 for 'industry name company' and the listings were updated and sorted by PR. Site I mange was #5.

Somethin' wacky going on with the Dmoz data and Google's version of it lately.

I tend to think there's a part II to this update...but maybe not. I haven't seen much change in the data centers over the past 4 days.

<shrug> It's a bit much of a coincidence to have all sites in DMOZ _not_ come up in specific searches.

Everything is just...wrong.

2003-11-21, 04:18 PM	#2
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Jay - I dont think its over yet - the datacenters are still really different - the PR hasnt been updated at all of them yet and the backlinks havent come across to all of them yet - theres a few filters they havent implemented yet either - probably wont be done for a few days - after the weekend I think __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2003-11-21, 05:52 PM	#6
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2003-11-21, 07:02 PM	#7
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Just checked and there is an update to PR and backlinks sitting on one of the datacenters that isnt showing on the main www, 2 and 3 yet - I really think once those are factored in (cause it looks like alot of people here got more backlinks) there will be some major shifts this weekend __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2003-11-21, 07:49 PM	#9
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	really in flux - they must be trying something really off the wall - do a search for a term on the normal web search - then do the same on the directory - the results are the same - never been that way before __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2003-11-22, 02:27 PM	#14
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Google has gone fuckin' mad. __________________

2003-11-21, 03:58 PM	#1
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	The Official Who's Dissapointed With the last Google update thread Now that the dust has settled...who is disappointed with the last google update? I know a lot of people lost a lot of listings on this last reindex, I lost a few myself, but everall didn't make out that bad. I was kind of dissapointed to see the spammers holding strong through it and mainstream stuff like HBO and CNN coming up under "Gay Sex" and "Sex Videos". Feedback? __________________ Circle Of Violence

2003-11-21, 04:54 PM	#4
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	The serps are filled with garbage. It's just another typical google "improvement". I'm seeing a big increase in nonadult expired domains crammed with spammy pages in the top 20.

2003-11-21, 04:59 PM	#5
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Not over yet IMO..... I lost some serious terms.. that are just completely unexplainable... so I don't think it is over yet.. Definitely seeing a huge spammer increase... DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-11-21, 11:16 PM	#12
eatapeach If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 33	i noticed that some of my sites PR went down, some of the sites even dropping all the way to PR0. please somebody tell me this is just a temporary thing and i'll wake up tomorrow with everything like i want it to be

2003-11-22, 02:05 PM	#13
Freeway Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 107	Im way bummed out. My best keyword was worth about 6000 hits a month. I was number one for about 9 months. I dont even think Im in the top 100 now. ( insert smilie of me hanging myself from a tree )

2003-11-22, 05:17 PM	#15
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Urb nahhh- they're just still dancing - watching the results go all over the place - just watched the SERPs for "sex" go from 280 mill to 3 mill then to 59 mill - its gonna get crazier before they're done - cant wait to see the filters for spam come in theyve been promising wholesale changes - guess we'll have to see __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2003-11-22, 06:07 PM	#17
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	yep - there's been another big shuffle in the serps since yesterday still not making a ton on sense http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...oe=UTF-8&q=xxx __________________ Circle Of Violence

2003-11-22, 06:28 PM	#18
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	No...it is not over yet. Or at least it wasn't yesterday. And, I have not seen a difference yet.

2003-11-24, 04:24 AM	#19
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	This doesn't look good to me..... http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...oe=UTF-8&q=xxx __________________

2003-11-24, 12:01 PM	#21
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	That sucks. __________________

2003-11-24, 06:24 PM	#23
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	Anyone check with the 'filter trick': http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=Google+Search For a 3 word phrase ya need to put two gibberish filters on like: kw1 kw2 kw3 -adfdfs -sfsff And you'll see results without the stupidity. Maybe it's good not to be in the 1st 1000 listings and that is the 'safe zone' before the next round of filters- I kid myself into thinking. AW __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today!

2003-11-24, 07:18 PM	#25
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	xxxjay, Wasn't my find. A guy on webmasterworld named 'Kackle' found it. He calls it a 'dictionary' of phrases- but it seems like a 'phrase blacklist' to me. It only trips certain phrases. There are so many posts in that Google Update thread it's crazy. Have seen other people mention that there are SERP's where entire DMOZ lists don't appear. This is the case for a site I manage which is in a very niche market and is only known by one term. In searching 'industry name company' not a single company pops up in Google. Nevermind the site I manage- quite literally all companies were ZAPPED from the results. The #4 spot for 'industry name' previosuly held by the site I manage is now held by a free page on AOL. That site has about 50% of it's links pointing to domains that no longer exist. I came across an odd datacenter by accident wherein the Google Web Directory was listed at #1 for 'industry name company' and the listings were updated and sorted by PR. Site I mange was #5. Somethin' wacky going on with the Dmoz data and Google's version of it lately. I tend to think there's a part II to this update...but maybe not. I haven't seen much change in the data centers over the past 4 days. <shrug> It's a bit much of a coincidence to have all sites in DMOZ _not_ come up in specific searches. Everything is just...wrong. __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today!