CCBill?

Gnus · 2006-08-30, 03:34 PM

In ccbill under program details on rebills is it suppose to say zero or unlimited? If you are to get unlimited rebills.

Gary

virgohippy · 2006-08-30, 05:25 PM

Looks like you found yourself a less than worthy sponsor!

It should read "unlimited rebills."

Gnus · 2006-08-30, 05:51 PM

Yep

Sexypayouts.com

all have zero rebills.

Gary

virgohippy · 2006-08-30, 06:46 PM

"...partner share of 60% ongoing net revenue for each member you refer."

It's one thing to dis-allow rebills, it's quite another to say you are when you're not.

DangerDave · 2006-08-30, 08:17 PM

Wrong -

There are two ways that the CCBill Aff Admin can display a programs details..

#1

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

#2

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

It is ambiguity in the CCBill system that is the problem... The language of #1 is correct but misleading.... Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills - To "end" after "zero" rebills actually means.. they do not end...

It actually means the same as Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

Users of my program will see - Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills - when they view their program details... but guess what... they all get rebills and get paid for them.

Wouldn't it be good if someone from CCBill would slide by and confirm this all for us, and/or sort out the ambiguity.

DD

Toby · 2006-08-30, 08:40 PM

Yes, it would be nice to get clarification from someone at CCBill. It has been my experience that "Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills" means that you do not get paid for any rebills.

virgohippy · 2006-08-31, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave

Wrong -

Again?! That's twice in far too recent time! I'm glad someone was there to catch that idiot hippy!

For the same reason Toby mentioned, I'm totally lost now...

ronnie · 2006-08-31, 09:46 AM

Confusing to me. Where's CCBill?

ronnie

Gnus · 2006-08-31, 09:51 AM

It would be nice if CCBill would clear this up for us. Make it official regarding the meaning of each.

Gary

CCBill_Paul · 2006-08-31, 11:22 AM

Hopefully I can clear this up.

Zero means you will not receive credit for rebills.

Unlimited means you will receive credit for rebills.

DangerDave, please contact me I would like to take a look at your program. paulk@ccbill.com

If anyone else has any questions please let us know.

clientsupport@ccbill.com
800-510-2859

-Paul

Useless · 2006-08-31, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill_Paul

DangerDave, please contact me I would like to take a look at your program. paulk@ccbill.com

He misspoke. I just checked:

Quote:

Webmaster Program: Old Dollars (903035-0001)
Affiliate ID: 927465 Payout Percent: 60.00%
Signup Date: 04/02/2005 Payout Flat-Rate: $0.00
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

CCBill_Paul · 2006-08-31, 11:39 AM

Good, thanks!

ronnie · 2006-08-31, 02:41 PM

So I found a few of my CCBill sponsors, who say they pay recurring, that set it to Zero, that sucks.

ronnie

DangerDave · 2006-08-31, 04:46 PM

No I didn't

I (of course) checked with an affiliate of my program, before I posted.

'His' Aff Admin says.....

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebill

.. and we checked that he had been paid for rebills.

That said, I am more than happy to be proved wrong and I among many would like this whole thing cleared up.. It is a question that has been asked many times...

DD

CCBill_Paul · 2006-08-31, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave

No I didn't

I (of course) checked with an affiliate of my program, before I posted.

'His' Aff Admin says.....

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebill

.. and we checked that he had been paid for rebills.

That said, I am more than happy to be proved wrong and I among many would like this whole thing cleared up.. It is a question that has been asked many times...

DD

I would like to clear this up as well. Please provide me with the affiliate ID that you looked up so I can take a look.

paulk@ccbill.com

Thanks.

DangerDave · 2006-08-31, 05:01 PM

Paul,

I am getting the affiliate to double check(again), and am writing you an email with my other hand

DD

Useless · 2006-08-31, 06:08 PM

This is mine, but I'm not the affiliate he is speaking of. We are talking about Old Dollars, correct?

DangerDave · 2006-08-31, 06:30 PM

Yes, UW it is for OldDollars

and this is the other affiliates screenshot.....

and here is the shot from my Program admin

So something is funked up..

DD

ronnie · 2006-09-01, 08:50 AM

So after seeing the admin side, it would be pretty tough for a sponsor to be confused with the setting from the admin side that is. Not talking about DD or his program. Just the sponsors who I found have set my rebills to Zero, it's not like they were confused..

Time to dump some links.

ronnie

Greenguy · 2006-09-01, 09:02 AM

I had a similar problem with a CCBill sponsor a couple months ago - my account was set to zero rebills & the program was baffled, because in their side, it had the unlimited rebills turned on.

Turns out that when I signed up, they did have it set to zero rebills, but they changed that once they realized the setting was incorrect - only problem was that it didn't change that setting for any of the affiliates that were set up before that day

Let me go find the thread.......

Greenguy · 2006-09-01, 09:07 AM

It was Depraved Dollars - I guess I didn't start a thread on this, but I do have emails from them explaining the problem:

...I believe that everyone who signed in as a beta tester when we started this thing are the ones that didn't get paid...

I will say that once I notified them of the problem, they handled it within an hour

Toby · 2006-09-01, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie

So after seeing the admin side, it would be pretty tough for a sponsor to be confused with the setting from the admin side that is. Not talking about DD or his program. Just the sponsors who I found have set my rebills to Zero, it's not like they were confused..

The problem can occur if a change is made to the settings AFTER there are some affiliates signed up for the program. Changing the settings in the sponsor admin will only affect new affiliates, it doesn't change settings for existing affiliates. Settings for existing affiliates have to be changed one at a time, but that isn't real clear in the admin.

urb · 2006-09-01, 11:08 AM

I brought this to CCBill's attention years ago and they refused to accept it was happening.

I have one sponsor who is showing "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills" that has been recurring fine since 2001.

CCBill_Paul · 2006-09-01, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urb

I brought this to CCBill's attention years ago and they refused to accept it was happening.

I have one sponsor who is showing "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills" that has been recurring fine since 2001.

This should no longer be the case but please send me the affiliate ID on this one so I can take a look. Thanks.

paulk@ccbill.com

urb · 2006-09-01, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill_Paul

This should no longer be the case but please send me the affiliate ID on this one so I can take a look. Thanks.

paulk@ccbill.com

Email on it's way, thanks.

2006-08-30, 05:51 PM	#3
Gnus Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 76	Yep Sexypayouts.com all have zero rebills. Gary __________________ ICQ -73665782 Last edited by Gnus; 2006-08-30 at 06:24 PM..

2006-08-30, 06:46 PM	#4
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	"...partner share of 60% ongoing net revenue for each member you refer." It's one thing to dis-allow rebills, it's quite another to say you are when you're not. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.

2006-08-30, 08:40 PM	#6
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	Yes, it would be nice to get clarification from someone at CCBill. It has been my experience that "Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills" means that you do not get paid for any rebills. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2006-08-31, 09:51 AM	#9
Gnus Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 76	It would be nice if CCBill would clear this up for us. Make it official regarding the meaning of each. Gary __________________ ICQ -73665782

2006-08-31, 11:22 AM	#10
CCBill_Paul Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Clientsupportville Posts: 72	Hopefully I can clear this up. Zero means you will not receive credit for rebills. Unlimited means you will receive credit for rebills. DangerDave, please contact me I would like to take a look at your program. paulk@ccbill.com If anyone else has any questions please let us know. clientsupport@ccbill.com 800-510-2859 -Paul __________________

2006-08-30, 03:34 PM	#1
Gnus Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 76	CCBill? In ccbill under program details on rebills is it suppose to say zero or unlimited? If you are to get unlimited rebills. Gary __________________ ICQ -73665782

2006-08-30, 05:25 PM	#2
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	Looks like you found yourself a less than worthy sponsor! It should read "unlimited rebills." __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.

2006-08-30, 08:17 PM	#5
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Wrong - There are two ways that the CCBill Aff Admin can display a programs details.. #1 Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills #2 Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills It is ambiguity in the CCBill system that is the problem... The language of #1 is correct but misleading.... Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills - To "end" after "zero" rebills actually means.. they do not end... It actually means the same as Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills Users of my program will see - Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills - when they view their program details... but guess what... they all get rebills and get paid for them. Wouldn't it be good if someone from CCBill would slide by and confirm this all for us, and/or sort out the ambiguity. DD

2006-08-31, 09:46 AM	#8
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	Confusing to me. Where's CCBill? ronnie

2006-08-31, 11:39 AM	#12
CCBill_Paul Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Clientsupportville Posts: 72	Good, thanks! __________________

2006-08-31, 02:41 PM	#13
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	So I found a few of my CCBill sponsors, who say they pay recurring, that set it to Zero, that sucks. ronnie

2006-08-31, 04:46 PM	#14
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	No I didn't I (of course) checked with an affiliate of my program, before I posted. 'His' Aff Admin says..... Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebill .. and we checked that he had been paid for rebills. That said, I am more than happy to be proved wrong and I among many would like this whole thing cleared up.. It is a question that has been asked many times... DD

2006-08-31, 05:01 PM	#16
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Paul, I am getting the affiliate to double check(again), and am writing you an email with my other hand DD

2006-08-31, 06:08 PM	#17
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	This is mine, but I'm not the affiliate he is speaking of. We are talking about Old Dollars, correct? __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2006-08-31, 06:30 PM	#18
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Yes, UW it is for OldDollars and this is the other affiliates screenshot..... and here is the shot from my Program admin So something is funked up.. DD

2006-09-01, 08:50 AM	#19
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	So after seeing the admin side, it would be pretty tough for a sponsor to be confused with the setting from the admin side that is. Not talking about DD or his program. Just the sponsors who I found have set my rebills to Zero, it's not like they were confused.. Time to dump some links. ronnie

2006-09-01, 09:02 AM	#20
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I had a similar problem with a CCBill sponsor a couple months ago - my account was set to zero rebills & the program was baffled, because in their side, it had the unlimited rebills turned on. Turns out that when I signed up, they did have it set to zero rebills, but they changed that once they realized the setting was incorrect - only problem was that it didn't change that setting for any of the affiliates that were set up before that day Let me go find the thread....... __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-09-01, 09:07 AM	#21
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	It was Depraved Dollars - I guess I didn't start a thread on this, but I do have emails from them explaining the problem: ...I believe that everyone who signed in as a beta tester when we started this thing are the ones that didn't get paid... I will say that once I notified them of the problem, they handled it within an hour __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-09-01, 11:08 AM	#23
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	I brought this to CCBill's attention years ago and they refused to accept it was happening. I have one sponsor who is showing "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills" that has been recurring fine since 2001. __________________