Free site sales help.

AcidMaX · 2004-04-28, 08:00 AM

OK my link list is doing well and growing on a monthly basis but for some reason I cannot get a free site to make a sale. I used to be able to get TGP galleries to convert pretty well, but so far nothing on the free sites.

My sites get listed at most if not all of the big link lists but I don't understand what I'm doing that isnt getting people to signup.

Anyhow, just wanted to throw a link up to my most recent Freesite that is out there and see if I could get some tips on how to make my freesites more appealing and make some sales. If you would wrather provide advice privately I will take that too :-)

Link: http://www.amateurdivas.com/amateur/...s/1/index.html

Andy

Ramster · 2004-04-28, 08:41 AM

I think you need more sales text. Make the top of the index and main page full of text talking about the paysite. Anything will do that might turn on the surfer. See these latin honeys stripping and masterbating. Plus there is a huge hardcore section with latina group gangbangs and more, blah blah. Have a good text link in there too to the sponsor.

That might improve the click thrus to the sponsor and sales.

Greenguy · 2004-04-28, 08:51 AM

I could be wrong (Lord knows I have been in the past - LOL) but I think that selling a generic amateur site using a Latina amatuer is a bad idea - I'd try to find an actual Latina Amateur site or a normal Latina paysite.

AcidMaX · 2004-04-28, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
I could be wrong (Lord knows I have been in the past - LOL) but I think that selling a generic amateur site using a Latina amatuer is a bad idea - I'd try to find an actual Latina Amateur site or a normal Latina paysite.

OK, good point. I know I have been submitting sites that also have non latin amateur women and they didnt convert either, some of the girls were extremely attractive and not homely in the least..haha.

Example: I had this one designed by a freesite designer. He did everything but the images.

http://www.amateurdivas.com/blonde_in_blue_jeans/1/

Still didn't make a sale and she is pretty cute. So I'm missing some key things that are causing my sites to convert and I'm not quite sure what it is yet, hence the post.

Thanks for the input so far GG and Ramster..keep the info coming :-)

Greenguy · 2004-04-28, 09:13 AM

Don't take this the wrong way, but did you pay to have that site designed?

1st problem the designer has is that they are using %'s for some of the table width's & actual pixel dimensions for other tables - which really makes the pages look fucked when you get to a larger monitor size - take a look at these 3 versions of the same page:

My regular screen size:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/acidmax/full.jpg

What I assume it's supposed to look like:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/acidmax/regular.jpg

The smallest you can go on that page:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/acidmax/smallest.jpg

Notice how that top table shrinks each time?

Also, on the 2nd page, the big banner in the middle is not centered on my screen:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/acidmax/main.jpg

You & me need to sit down in Chicago & talk free site building

AcidMaX · 2004-04-28, 11:44 AM

Yes that one I DID pay someone to design that free site and I see what you mean. I noticed when going through a lot of the html wasn't even formatted properly.

The first one I posted, I designed.

I would be very grateful to sit down with you and talk Free Site building :-)

Feel free to email me if you want to share some thoughts as well...webmaster@smutlinks.net

Greenguy · 2004-04-28, 12:06 PM

When do you get into Chicago? I can set aside an hour or so on Saturday & we can sit down at my laptop - it's easier for me to show you a few things than it is to explain them

Ramster · 2004-04-28, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AcidMaX
Still didn't make a sale and she is pretty cute. So I'm missing some key things that are causing my sites to convert and I'm not quite sure what it is yet, hence the post.

Thanks for the input so far GG and Ramster..keep the info coming :-)

One thing you need to aim for with all free sites is making a sale before they see the pictures.

Chop Smith · 2004-04-28, 12:24 PM

I don't know if Surfn and Dr B are going to have speakers this year, but it would be nice to have Greenguy share some of that knowledge with all of us. Maybe an hour before we all start partying.

Greenguy · 2004-04-28, 12:59 PM

I'm not a good speaker unless I'm already drunk - then the words flow freely, but no one can understand them

plateman · 2004-04-30, 06:41 PM

That will be a treat as i will be in Chicago too and also from looking at my stats most of the traffic lately from my last free sites have been going to the sponsor on the index and main and very very few on the galleries

and i too try and sell the sponsor right off the get go and now my free sites arnt no prize but i get a lot of sponsor hits but hardly any sales
|pissed|

but now that i been listening and talking to people it takes a bunch of sites to see sales so i keep building...

plates last site http://www.nastylovingslut.com/lesbian_love/

shags · 2004-05-02, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by plateman
plates last site http://www.nastylovingslut.com/lesbian_love/

Your not giving the surfer many options, same sponsor on the entire site. Counted 8 LesbianTreats banner and nothing else.

Obviously you try to push the sponsor on index and main page, but what’s the deal with showing the banner 3 times in the gallery. By that time the surfer is ignoring the banner, he just don’t give a fuck.

Try to push something else, not just lesbian.

Anyway I doubt the banner from LesbianTreats have a high CTR. The lesbian are hiding behind some annoying design, looks like a Nickelodeon banner.

Lesbian sponsor

caringneo · 2004-05-03, 12:39 PM

Good points by GG and Ramster. Thanks.

Andy,
Your LinkList is growing is nice news. I have been regularly submitting and getting listed as well.

IMHO, you should have got a better one if you had paid for design.

About sales, I am yet to completely understand the surfer behaviour. Many of my free sites have made one sale and then no more. Some design which thought is good one never converted even single sale for me.
For example a lesbian site which I used a lesbian sponsor and an alternate squirting sponsor. But I thought the design looked ok.

Teen Lesbian

Yet to learn lot of things I guess.

Neo

WarChylde · 2004-05-03, 01:15 PM

While you guys are looking at freesites, Id like to get some feedback on my latest one. Mainly what I want to know is a) is that large ad too much for the index page? & b) Anything I could do to make it better / have a better shot at sales, etc. and of course if it needs cracking on feel free to give it a good reaming

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2004-04-28, 08:00 AM	#1
AcidMaX Programming till my fingers bleed. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 876	Free site sales help. OK my link list is doing well and growing on a monthly basis but for some reason I cannot get a free site to make a sale. I used to be able to get TGP galleries to convert pretty well, but so far nothing on the free sites. My sites get listed at most if not all of the big link lists but I don't understand what I'm doing that isnt getting people to signup. Anyhow, just wanted to throw a link up to my most recent Freesite that is out there and see if I could get some tips on how to make my freesites more appealing and make some sales. If you would wrather provide advice privately I will take that too :-) Link: http://www.amateurdivas.com/amateur/...s/1/index.html Andy

2004-04-28, 08:41 AM	#2
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,867	I think you need more sales text. Make the top of the index and main page full of text talking about the paysite. Anything will do that might turn on the surfer. See these latin honeys stripping and masterbating. Plus there is a huge hardcore section with latina group gangbangs and more, blah blah. Have a good text link in there too to the sponsor. That might improve the click thrus to the sponsor and sales. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2004-04-28, 08:51 AM	#3
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I could be wrong (Lord knows I have been in the past - LOL) but I think that selling a generic amateur site using a Latina amatuer is a bad idea - I'd try to find an actual Latina Amateur site or a normal Latina paysite. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-04-28, 09:13 AM	#5
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Don't take this the wrong way, but did you pay to have that site designed? 1st problem the designer has is that they are using %'s for some of the table width's & actual pixel dimensions for other tables - which really makes the pages look fucked when you get to a larger monitor size - take a look at these 3 versions of the same page: My regular screen size: http://www.greenguysboard.com/acidmax/full.jpg What I assume it's supposed to look like: http://www.greenguysboard.com/acidmax/regular.jpg The smallest you can go on that page: http://www.greenguysboard.com/acidmax/smallest.jpg Notice how that top table shrinks each time? Also, on the 2nd page, the big banner in the middle is not centered on my screen: http://www.greenguysboard.com/acidmax/main.jpg You & me need to sit down in Chicago & talk free site building __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-04-28, 12:06 PM	#7
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	When do you get into Chicago? I can set aside an hour or so on Saturday & we can sit down at my laptop - it's easier for me to show you a few things than it is to explain them __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-04-28, 11:44 AM	#6
AcidMaX Programming till my fingers bleed. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 876	Yes that one I DID pay someone to design that free site and I see what you mean. I noticed when going through a lot of the html wasn't even formatted properly. The first one I posted, I designed. I would be very grateful to sit down with you and talk Free Site building :-) Feel free to email me if you want to share some thoughts as well...webmaster@smutlinks.net

2004-04-28, 12:24 PM	#9
Chop Smith Eighteen 'til I Die Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,168	I don't know if Surfn and Dr B are going to have speakers this year, but it would be nice to have Greenguy share some of that knowledge with all of us. Maybe an hour before we all start partying. __________________

2004-04-28, 12:59 PM	#10
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I'm not a good speaker unless I'm already drunk - then the words flow freely, but no one can understand them __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-04-30, 06:41 PM	#11
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	That will be a treat as i will be in Chicago too and also from looking at my stats most of the traffic lately from my last free sites have been going to the sponsor on the index and main and very very few on the galleries and i too try and sell the sponsor right off the get go and now my free sites arnt no prize but i get a lot of sponsor hits but hardly any sales \|pissed\| but now that i been listening and talking to people it takes a bunch of sites to see sales so i keep building... plates last site http://www.nastylovingslut.com/lesbian_love/ __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here

2004-05-03, 12:39 PM	#13
caringneo Oh! I haven't changed since high school and suddenly I am uncool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: PLANET EARTH Posts: 259	Good points by GG and Ramster. Thanks. Andy, Your LinkList is growing is nice news. I have been regularly submitting and getting listed as well. IMHO, you should have got a better one if you had paid for design. About sales, I am yet to completely understand the surfer behaviour. Many of my free sites have made one sale and then no more. Some design which thought is good one never converted even single sale for me. For example a lesbian site which I used a lesbian sponsor and an alternate squirting sponsor. But I thought the design looked ok. Teen Lesbian Yet to learn lot of things I guess. Neo __________________ Anal Gays

2004-05-03, 01:15 PM	#14
WarChylde Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 22	While you guys are looking at freesites, Id like to get some feedback on my latest one. Mainly what I want to know is a) is that large ad too much for the index page? & b) Anything I could do to make it better / have a better shot at sales, etc. and of course if it needs cracking on feel free to give it a good reaming Layed in Latin America