Don't You TGPOWNERS Want To Stop Being Screwed?

Garou · 2004-10-09, 09:32 AM

It would be funny if it were not so sad.
Why do You give away partner accounts? Do You want cheaters to earn money on that?
I KNOW HUNDREDS of cheaters who buy-sell partner accounts. That is stupid! Today partner accounts on TGPs HELP CHEATERS EARN MONEY.
There is a huge market of partner account trade - they are being sold out in PACKAGES. ALL major TGPs are there. There are firm prices etc. And who buys them? "Webmasters" who use exploits, redirects and other shit on their galleries. That IS SAD and that is unfair to the ones who spend time and money to gain skills in gallery building.
Don't You see the solution?

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 09:37 AM

I don't have that problem. My TGPs are closed to public submits

Garou · 2004-10-09, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Surfn
I don't have that problem. My TGPs are closed to public submits

No public submit? Then You have either partner submits or list FHGs or grab galleries from other tgps. All these solutions are not the best as i see it

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by Garou
No public submit? Then You have either partner submits or list FHGs or grab galleries from other tgps. All these solutions are not the best as i see it

Please enlighten me

Greenguy · 2004-10-09, 10:07 AM

Dare I ask what the solution is?

Garou · 2004-10-09, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Surfn
Please enlighten me

I won't. Cuz if You do not allow public submits Youdo not have problems with cheaters. That is ur way. But a lot of TGPs still accept partners nd close their eyes on cheats...

Garou · 2004-10-09, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Greenguy
Dare I ask what the solution is?

Yes. You are free to ask. Ask.

|rasta|

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by Garou
I won't. Cuz if You do not allow public submits Youdo not have problems with cheaters. That is ur way. But a lot of TGPs still accept partners nd close their eyes on cheats...

Can you give me a few examples of big tgps that you know ARE being screwed please.

Garou · 2004-10-09, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Surfn
Can you give me a few examples of big tgps that you know ARE being screwed please.

Can You please give examples of big tgps that You know ARE NOT being screwed? Cuz this list will be much shorter.

Name a TGP and i will provide a price for the partner account on a "shadow market".

You know why i started the thread? Cuz it made harm to me and i am surprised that tgp owners are so blind...

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Garou
Can You please give examples of big tgps that You know ARE NOT being screwed? Cuz this list will be much shorter.

Name a TGP and i will provide a price for the partner account on a "shadow market".

You know why i started the thread? Cuz it made harm to me and i am surprised that tgp owners are so blind...

What good are these, so called "shadow market" partner accounts when we can blacklist them with one click? Do you think we allow partners to flood us with tons of bullshit?

How long have you been operating a tgp, if I may ask?

Pornstar Dames · 2004-10-09, 12:05 PM

As long as your careful who you give them too they help keep the cheats out they certainly dont help them.

RawAlex · 2004-10-09, 12:15 PM

I believe the answer to the "how to make it better" will be to only accept his gallery making people so that he can scrape them for 50% of the revenue.

But I could be wrong...

Alex

Useless · 2004-10-09, 12:22 PM

I just hope the Russian version of his site is better than the English.

Garou · 2004-10-09, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Surfn
What good are these, so called "shadow market" partner accounts when we can blacklist them with one click? Do you think we allow partners to flood us with tons of bullshit?

How long have you been operating a tgp, if I may ask?

There is no sense in partner accounts today cuz anyone can buy them and submit anything. That is the truth. ANYONE can obtain accounts for Shemp, Pichunter, Al4a, Madthumbs etc. Every account has it's own price. There are "webmasters" who earn money on reselling partner accounts only. I was shocked but this is how things are going and something must be done about that...

Garou · 2004-10-09, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by RawAlex
I believe the answer to the "how to make it better" will be to only accept his gallery making people so that he can scrape them for 50% of the revenue.

But I could be wrong...

Alex

How many gallery mking ppl can You find? How many content etc will You need? That will be a head ache

Garou · 2004-10-09, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by Useless Warrior
I just hope the Russian version of his site is better than the English.

Yes, we have the russian version cuz one of the partners is from russia and i must say they are honest and work hard. We are not widely open to western webmasters cuz need to have some more thing done

DangerDave · 2004-10-09, 03:56 PM

Hahahaha this thread gets my vote for the useless thread of the month...

Is it spam or an ethereal discussion about TGP ethics...? either way........

DD

Stouch · 2004-10-09, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by DangerDave
Hahahaha this thread gets my vote for the useless thread of the month...

Is it spam or an ethereal discussion about TGP ethics...? either way........

DD

Its neither. What he is saying is a warning to all sites that use partnership systems. Your partner accounts may be being resold to cheaters, so dont think that working on partner only is foolproof.

Shemp has replied on another board to this and has stated that he has found 17 occasions this year where Shemp partner accounts are being resold.

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stouch
Its neither. What he is saying is a warning to all sites that use partnership systems. Your partner accounts may be being resold to cheaters, so dont think that working on partner only is foolproof.

Shemp has replied on another board to this and has stated that he has found 17 occasions this year where Shemp partner accounts are being resold.

Shemp is a member of this board and could comment here if he wanted to.

Stouch · 2004-10-09, 06:42 PM

Dude, I am using it as a point in case, not quoting on someone elses behalf. Im really quite surprised I have to explain something like that.

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 08:22 PM

I'm really surprised you think we are that stupid.

Stouch · 2004-10-09, 08:34 PM

Ok thats a fair point, but judging by some of the replies in this thread....

The guy raised a serious issue which quickly descended into a piss take on his English & his business plan. Therefore I thought it fair to acknowledge what he was saying on the off chance that the piss-takers didnt quite grasp it. Hence I used DD's post for emphasis & quoted Shemps post on another board as people respect him in the TGP world.

Its the easiest thing in the world to just jump on people on a message board, but there was a quite valid message beneath the broken English in this instance.

Surfn · 2004-10-09, 08:46 PM

I guess you do

Stouch · 2004-10-09, 08:50 PM

But only when necessary

Garou · 2004-10-09, 10:01 PM

I have to repeat what was said on Shemps board. The best solution is domain/email/user/pass verification (not email/user/pass only). But it's quite rare to see it working on many tgps. Let's take pichunter or free6 - they got TONS of galleries redirecting traffic, etc, even though they have set up partner based submissions. Their surfers often get into trouble after clicking on the link to a gallery. When i tried to surf some major tgps guess what i got? Even good AV software won't help.
If only all tgps did set up domain verification "the world would be safer" (J.Buch). I think it's time to say that to AG team... I will raise the problem discussion on their board.

I had to face this problem when some hackers sniffed my passwords - i had to explain that thing to sveral tgp owners but not all of them believe that. Alas. The ones who spend their time andmoney, hardworking tgp owners and gallery builders, both are getting screwed...

PS
If any of english speaking webmasters would like to help us with the language and represent us on boards etc - welcome :-) We'll be public soon (I AM NOT SPAMMING - just answering about my "bad english" or smth). I speak french and chinese btw, so i assume my lang skills are not the worst out there ;-)

2004-10-09, 09:32 AM	#1
Garou Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 106	Don't You TGPOWNERS Want To Stop Being Screwed? It would be funny if it were not so sad. Why do You give away partner accounts? Do You want cheaters to earn money on that? I KNOW HUNDREDS of cheaters who buy-sell partner accounts. That is stupid! Today partner accounts on TGPs HELP CHEATERS EARN MONEY. There is a huge market of partner account trade - they are being sold out in PACKAGES. ALL major TGPs are there. There are firm prices etc. And who buys them? "Webmasters" who use exploits, redirects and other shit on their galleries. That IS SAD and that is unfair to the ones who spend time and money to gain skills in gallery building. Don't You see the solution? __________________ SlavaNetwork.com - new sologirl affiliate program with two brand new sologirl sites.

2004-10-09, 09:37 AM	#2
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I don't have that problem. My TGPs are closed to public submits __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2004-10-09, 10:07 AM	#5
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Dare I ask what the solution is? __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-10-09, 12:05 PM	#11
Pornstar Dames A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: UK Posts: 58	As long as your careful who you give them too they help keep the cheats out they certainly dont help them. __________________ http://www.starletsofporn.com/webmasters

2004-10-09, 12:22 PM	#13
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	I just hope the Russian version of his site is better than the English. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2004-10-09, 12:15 PM	#12
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I believe the answer to the "how to make it better" will be to only accept his gallery making people so that he can scrape them for 50% of the revenue. But I could be wrong... Alex

2004-10-09, 03:56 PM	#17
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Hahahaha this thread gets my vote for the useless thread of the month... Is it spam or an ethereal discussion about TGP ethics...? either way........ DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2004-10-09, 06:42 PM	#20
Stouch Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 130	Dude, I am using it as a point in case, not quoting on someone elses behalf. Im really quite surprised I have to explain something like that. __________________ Nowt here

2004-10-09, 08:22 PM	#21
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I'm really surprised you think we are that stupid. __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2004-10-09, 08:34 PM	#22
Stouch Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 130	Ok thats a fair point, but judging by some of the replies in this thread.... The guy raised a serious issue which quickly descended into a piss take on his English & his business plan. Therefore I thought it fair to acknowledge what he was saying on the off chance that the piss-takers didnt quite grasp it. Hence I used DD's post for emphasis & quoted Shemps post on another board as people respect him in the TGP world. Its the easiest thing in the world to just jump on people on a message board, but there was a quite valid message beneath the broken English in this instance. __________________ Nowt here

2004-10-09, 08:46 PM	#23
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I guess you do __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2004-10-09, 08:50 PM	#24
Stouch Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 130	But only when necessary __________________ Nowt here

2004-10-09, 10:01 PM	#25
Garou Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 106	I have to repeat what was said on Shemps board. The best solution is domain/email/user/pass verification (not email/user/pass only). But it's quite rare to see it working on many tgps. Let's take pichunter or free6 - they got TONS of galleries redirecting traffic, etc, even though they have set up partner based submissions. Their surfers often get into trouble after clicking on the link to a gallery. When i tried to surf some major tgps guess what i got? Even good AV software won't help. If only all tgps did set up domain verification "the world would be safer" (J.Buch). I think it's time to say that to AG team... I will raise the problem discussion on their board. I had to face this problem when some hackers sniffed my passwords - i had to explain that thing to sveral tgp owners but not all of them believe that. Alas. The ones who spend their time andmoney, hardworking tgp owners and gallery builders, both are getting screwed... PS If any of english speaking webmasters would like to help us with the language and represent us on boards etc - welcome :-) We'll be public soon (I AM NOT SPAMMING - just answering about my "bad english" or smth). I speak french and chinese btw, so i assume my lang skills are not the worst out there ;-) __________________ SlavaNetwork.com - new sologirl affiliate program with two brand new sologirl sites.