Need help from Whois Pros

selena · 2004-10-24, 08:54 PM

Hey guys and gals

I have a situation.

I was looking at my stats, and backtraced a yahoo search. I like to see what search terms were used, sometimes.

Anyhow, I come up with this http://www.stealthfilmz.com

I think they have somehow copied a site that belongs to me.

http://www.pleasetakemycherry.com/

But I don't know, because this kind of stuff confuses me.

This is the whois stuff I came up with:

Registrant:
Stealth Filmz
PO BOX 1839
Beverly Hills, CA 90213-1839
US

Domain Name: STEALTHFILMZ.COM

Administrative Contact:
Stealth Filmz
Kelly Nelson
PO BOX 1839
Beverly Hills, CA 90213-1839
US
323-876-7959
323-876-7960 [fax]

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Stealth Filmz
PO BOX 1839
Beverly Hills, CA 90213-1839
US
310-652-9119
310-652-9339 [fax]

Domain created on 08-Jun-2000
Domain expires on 08-Jun-2005
Last updated on 07-Jul-2003

Domain servers in listed order:

URL1.BUYDOMAINS.COM
URL2.BUYDOMAINS.COM

Now, the affilate codes on the site have not been changed. I also don't use this domain for anything. It is just up there, in case anyone stripped the URL of the few non-nude galleries I have out there.

I know enough to know that they have somehow copied things, but that is about it. I don't know if action is required on my part, or if tracking it down would take more time than what it is worth.

Advice on if I should take action and if so, what, would be greatly appreciated.

DangerDave · 2004-10-24, 09:00 PM

Selena, Are you in the US?

Call them! 323-876-7959 and ask them to take it down or further action will be taken.

If they dont comply.. hit them and their host with a DMCA..

DD

selena · 2004-10-24, 09:16 PM

DD

Yes, I'm in the US. I thought to email them, after I had gotten advice from you guys, as I hadn't a clue what I was supposed to do.

What is a DMCA?

~woefully ignorant~

DarkEmber · 2004-10-24, 09:27 PM

http://www.dmcanotice.com/

better explanation and tools than I could give ya

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (“DMCA”) allows copyright owners to notify hosts, billing companies, and others providing services to websites displaying stolen content, of the infringement and request that the infringing content be disabled, removed or discontinued by the service provider.

its how you can get a theif by the "cough" balls.

Good Luck, hit me up if you need help with anything as well

DangerDave · 2004-10-24, 09:30 PM

DMCA - http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf

http://www.nctc.cc.tx.us/Forms/pdfs/copyright_form.pdf

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...der=descending

DD

selena · 2004-10-24, 09:37 PM

~starts to read~

Hey Dark Ember, good to see you, and thanks, btw.

What I don't get is how I figure out who the host is for this person. When you look at the whois, it shows *my* host and IP number.

So what am I not looking at right?

DarkEmber · 2004-10-24, 09:43 PM

OrgName: Webair Internet Development Inc
OrgID: WAIR
Address: 333 Jericho Tpke
Address: Suite 200
City: Jericho
StateProv: NY
PostalCode: 11753
Country: US

NetRange: 216.130.160.0 - 216.130.191.255
CIDR: 216.130.160.0/19
NetName: WEBAIRINTERNET
NetHandle: NET-216-130-160-0-1
Parent: NET-216-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.WEBAIR.NET
NameServer: NS2.WEBAIR.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-03-12
Updated: 2001-11-14

TechHandle: ZW64-ARIN
TechName: IPAdmin-Webair
TechPhone: +1-516-938-4100
TechEmail:

OrgNOCHandle: ZW64-ARIN
OrgNOCName: IPAdmin-Webair
OrgNOCPhone: +1-516-938-4100
OrgNOCEmail:

OrgTechHandle: ZW64-ARIN
OrgTechName: IPAdmin-Webair
OrgTechPhone: +1-516-938-4100
OrgTechEmail:

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-10-23 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

Thats the host. If you use whois.sc for the lookup, click the IP address listed near the ip location and you'll get this list, the ip info/host etc.

selena · 2004-10-24, 09:46 PM

Hon, I didn't make myself clear. That is what is confusing me so.

Because Webair is *my* host. The IP that is listed by whois is my IP, that Webair assigned to http://www.pleasetakemycherry.com

DarkEmber · 2004-10-24, 09:58 PM

They have the same host/ip designated for that domain name which is odd. Either they used you to park their domain or they typoed their DNS servers or they happen to be on the same server that you are on at the same hosting company. Their nameserver url1.buydomains.com shows that ip as the listed IP so that is the right IP that they chose to use. Contact your host with that info and see if they exist on that server with you (assuming shared hosting) and if not, then you can work with the registrar they used to have them pull the domain from your content. The registrar is listed as www.domaindiscover.com.

Could be just a mistake, but its definately interesting to say the least.

DarkEmber · 2004-10-24, 10:23 PM

based on the info I PM'd you, and the fact that I can hit the site via straight IP w/o the domain listed, I don't think its theft but more a typo or something weird like that someone put in the wrong IP. I can't see how pointing their domain name to your site without having control of the data can do much for em at all.

Good luck, the registrar should just park it to their space with enough info from you IMHO.

selena · 2004-10-24, 10:36 PM

PM answered and returned.

~leaves thanks to DD and DE and goes to work~

selena · 2004-10-25, 01:39 AM

~ties up the thread, all neat and pretty~

According to my host, that domain used to be hosted with them, so odds are Dark Ember is correct, and it is the result of an error, not a malicious thing.

Efforts are underway to correct the problem.

Stouch · 2004-10-25, 02:07 PM

I would suspect its some error. Normally if you type in a domain owned by buydomains it goes to their sales page. They also used to have a nifty trick that popped their page when you looked up their whois details.

I suspect they would be pissed if they found your stuff on there as its a missed sales opportunity for them

2004-10-24, 08:54 PM	#1
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	Need help from Whois Pros Hey guys and gals I have a situation. I was looking at my stats, and backtraced a yahoo search. I like to see what search terms were used, sometimes. Anyhow, I come up with this http://www.stealthfilmz.com I think they have somehow copied a site that belongs to me. http://www.pleasetakemycherry.com/ But I don't know, because this kind of stuff confuses me. This is the whois stuff I came up with: Registrant: Stealth Filmz PO BOX 1839 Beverly Hills, CA 90213-1839 US Domain Name: STEALTHFILMZ.COM Administrative Contact: Stealth Filmz Kelly Nelson PO BOX 1839 Beverly Hills, CA 90213-1839 US 323-876-7959 323-876-7960 [fax] Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Stealth Filmz PO BOX 1839 Beverly Hills, CA 90213-1839 US 310-652-9119 310-652-9339 [fax] Domain created on 08-Jun-2000 Domain expires on 08-Jun-2005 Last updated on 07-Jul-2003 Domain servers in listed order: URL1.BUYDOMAINS.COM URL2.BUYDOMAINS.COM Now, the affilate codes on the site have not been changed. I also don't use this domain for anything. It is just up there, in case anyone stripped the URL of the few non-nude galleries I have out there. I know enough to know that they have somehow copied things, but that is about it. I don't know if action is required on my part, or if tracking it down would take more time than what it is worth. Advice on if I should take action and if so, what, would be greatly appreciated. __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440 Last edited by selena; 2004-10-24 at 08:59 PM..

2004-10-24, 09:00 PM	#2
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Selena, Are you in the US? Call them! 323-876-7959 and ask them to take it down or further action will be taken. If they dont comply.. hit them and their host with a DMCA.. DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2004-10-24, 09:16 PM	#3
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	DD Yes, I'm in the US. I thought to email them, after I had gotten advice from you guys, as I hadn't a clue what I was supposed to do. What is a DMCA? ~woefully ignorant~ __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-10-24, 09:30 PM	#5
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	DMCA - http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf http://www.nctc.cc.tx.us/Forms/pdfs/copyright_form.pdf http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...der=descending DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2004-10-24, 09:37 PM	#6
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	~starts to read~ Hey Dark Ember, good to see you, and thanks, btw. What I don't get is how I figure out who the host is for this person. When you look at the whois, it shows my host and IP number. So what am I not looking at right? __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-10-24, 09:27 PM	#4
DarkEmber WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where the Cows Graze Posts: 47	http://www.dmcanotice.com/ better explanation and tools than I could give ya The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (“DMCA”) allows copyright owners to notify hosts, billing companies, and others providing services to websites displaying stolen content, of the infringement and request that the infringing content be disabled, removed or discontinued by the service provider. its how you can get a theif by the "cough" balls. Good Luck, hit me up if you need help with anything as well

2004-10-24, 09:43 PM	#7
DarkEmber WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where the Cows Graze Posts: 47	OrgName: Webair Internet Development Inc OrgID: WAIR Address: 333 Jericho Tpke Address: Suite 200 City: Jericho StateProv: NY PostalCode: 11753 Country: US NetRange: 216.130.160.0 - 216.130.191.255 CIDR: 216.130.160.0/19 NetName: WEBAIRINTERNET NetHandle: NET-216-130-160-0-1 Parent: NET-216-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS.WEBAIR.NET NameServer: NS2.WEBAIR.NET Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE RegDate: 2001-03-12 Updated: 2001-11-14 TechHandle: ZW64-ARIN TechName: IPAdmin-Webair TechPhone: +1-516-938-4100 TechEmail: OrgNOCHandle: ZW64-ARIN OrgNOCName: IPAdmin-Webair OrgNOCPhone: +1-516-938-4100 OrgNOCEmail: OrgTechHandle: ZW64-ARIN OrgTechName: IPAdmin-Webair OrgTechPhone: +1-516-938-4100 OrgTechEmail: # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-10-23 19:10 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. Thats the host. If you use whois.sc for the lookup, click the IP address listed near the ip location and you'll get this list, the ip info/host etc.

2004-10-24, 09:46 PM	#8
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	Hon, I didn't make myself clear. That is what is confusing me so. Because Webair is my host. The IP that is listed by whois is my IP, that Webair assigned to http://www.pleasetakemycherry.com __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-10-24, 09:58 PM	#9
DarkEmber WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where the Cows Graze Posts: 47	They have the same host/ip designated for that domain name which is odd. Either they used you to park their domain or they typoed their DNS servers or they happen to be on the same server that you are on at the same hosting company. Their nameserver url1.buydomains.com shows that ip as the listed IP so that is the right IP that they chose to use. Contact your host with that info and see if they exist on that server with you (assuming shared hosting) and if not, then you can work with the registrar they used to have them pull the domain from your content. The registrar is listed as www.domaindiscover.com. Could be just a mistake, but its definately interesting to say the least.

2004-10-24, 10:23 PM	#10
DarkEmber WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where the Cows Graze Posts: 47	based on the info I PM'd you, and the fact that I can hit the site via straight IP w/o the domain listed, I don't think its theft but more a typo or something weird like that someone put in the wrong IP. I can't see how pointing their domain name to your site without having control of the data can do much for em at all. Good luck, the registrar should just park it to their space with enough info from you IMHO.

2004-10-24, 10:36 PM	#11
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	PM answered and returned. ~leaves thanks to DD and DE and goes to work~ __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-10-25, 01:39 AM	#12
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	~ties up the thread, all neat and pretty~ According to my host, that domain used to be hosted with them, so odds are Dark Ember is correct, and it is the result of an error, not a malicious thing. Efforts are underway to correct the problem. __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-10-25, 02:07 PM	#13
Stouch Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 130	I would suspect its some error. Normally if you type in a domain owned by buydomains it goes to their sales page. They also used to have a nifty trick that popped their page when you looked up their whois details. I suspect they would be pissed if they found your stuff on there as its a missed sales opportunity for them __________________ Nowt here