Is This Really "Art"?

Greenguy · 2005-02-15, 09:12 AM

http://www.christojeanneclaude.net/tg.html

25 years in the making (Christo came up with the concept back in 1979)

$20 million to get it set up (out of Christo's pocket from what I hear)

I'm far from being a cultured man, but calling this collection of poles & curtains "art" is a bit far fetched for me.

MrMaryLou · 2005-02-15, 09:17 AM

Looks like curtains to me

stuveltje · 2005-02-15, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMaryLou

Looks like curtains to me

hahahaha i thought the same, here in holland they have also those strange art things, well they say its art.......

Cleo · 2005-02-15, 09:19 AM

Isn't this the same person that wrapped the islands in Biscayne Bay down here in pink fabric?

Yeah I don't get it either but then I also don't get cum shot galleries.

Greenguy · 2005-02-15, 09:22 AM

Cleo - this crap?
http://christojeanneclaude.net/si.html

...and I'd bet more people get cumshot galleries than do this stuff

tiny · 2005-02-15, 09:31 AM

Thats what happens when you have too much time and money I guess 40yrs haha
http://www.40yearsofpublicart.org/index.html

Cleo · 2005-02-15, 09:28 AM

Yeah that is it. lol

I seem to also remember that he did umbrellas and that one of them fell over and killed someone on his last "art" thing.

I'm going to put yesterday's meal up for art after I produce it this morning and see how much I can sell it for.

Torn Rose · 2005-02-15, 09:37 AM

I thought the same thing, but if he has $21 million to spend on this.... he must be doing something right.....

Greenguy · 2005-02-15, 09:42 AM

I heard he sells sketches & paintings & whatnot in order to raise money for these big stupid projects of his.

You'd think that he'd also sell these afterwords & make a couple bucks, but no. Everything will be recycled - I can see the aluminum, as it's cost effective to recycle that - but the plastic curtains? It costs $150 a ton to properly recycle plastic - it costs $50 a ton to properly dispose if it in a garbage land fill (and no matter what anyone says, we've got plenty of room in the existing land fills for another 1000 years of garbage)

stuveltje · 2005-02-15, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

I heard he sells sketches & paintings & whatnot in order to raise money for these big stupid projects of his.

You'd think that he'd also sell these afterwords & make a couple bucks, but no. Everything will be recycled - I can see the aluminum, as it's cost effective to recycle that - but the plastic curtains? It costs $150 a ton to properly recycle plastic - it costs $50 a ton to properly dispose if it in a garbage land fill (and no matter what anyone says, we've got plenty of room in the existing land fills for another 1000 years of garbage)

well he raised the money himself , here in holland the goverment gives money to those so called "artist"....maybe i will be an artist too, i can make stuff like that

Useless · 2005-02-15, 10:13 AM

Cum shots are not art. Group cum shots...now that's a thing of beauty.

adamneve · 2005-02-15, 09:44 AM

i'm sure bukkake is an art

Cleo · 2005-02-15, 10:26 AM

I just got out of the shower so I'm sitting in my bungee office chair naked which gives me waffle butt. Maybe I should take pics of my butt and call it Waffles In The Morning.

tiny · 2005-02-15, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

I just got out of the shower so I'm sitting in my bungee office chair naked which gives me waffle butt. Maybe I should take pics of my butt and call it Waffles In The Morning.

That gives a whole new meaning to the phrase haha

cd34 · 2005-02-15, 10:54 AM

reminds me of when I used to run through the sheets hanging on the clothesline.

Amazes me that someone took 25 years and $20 million to dream this stuff up. I could have done it in a few hours, and for $18 million.

Torn Rose · 2005-02-15, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cd34

Amazes me that someone took 25 years and $20 million to dream this stuff up. I could have done it in a few hours, and for $18 million.

But you didn't

ABCNews did a story on him, he wanted to do this 20 years ago, but could not get a permit from NYC, Goldblum (that’s the NYC mayor right?) is a fan of his and gave him the permit.

amadman · 2005-02-15, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cd34

reminds me of when I used to run through the sheets hanging on the clothesline.

Then Art it is.

Kinky · 2005-02-16, 06:16 AM

20 million and admission is free? WTF somebody go snag a curtain and sell it on e-bay for a cool million

and they used the same damned content 7500 times... that is an instant delete here

johnshinil · 2005-02-16, 08:32 AM

Great link

I think these pictures are more artistic than most of impressionist's crap.

cd34 · 2005-02-15, 11:21 AM

Bloomberg.

And I was 3 days from getting the final permitting. Now I'll look like a copycat.

ecchi · 2005-02-15, 12:40 PM

Art is anything people will look at by choice. So yes, this is art. But then so is a badly preserved shark slowly rotting in a tank art, so is a car crash art, so is a big fire art, and yes, so is a cumshot picture art (although I think technically a cumshot gallery is not, it is a collection of works of art - the clue is in the word gallery)

KCat · 2005-02-15, 07:56 PM

I LOVE this:

"Each separate "gate" would be merely a relic of the artwork and not a work of art. Seven thousand, five hundred structures together in Central Park IS a work of art."

So...my shower curtain on its own is not a work of art, but if I got together 7500 shower curtains & strung 'em up in Central Park, that would be genius. I'm off to Ikea!

dareutwo · 2005-02-17, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCat

I LOVE this:

"Each separate "gate" would be merely a relic of the artwork and not a work of art. Seven thousand, five hundred structures together in Central Park IS a work of art."

So...my shower curtain on its own is not a work of art, but if I got together 7500 shower curtains & strung 'em up in Central Park, that would be genius. I'm off to Ikea!

Following this to the end - A corn field would be work of art. (not a single plant, but millions of them)
So then Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, the whole rural country sides are all works of art?

It's simply trash. NYC may see things differently.

docholly · 2005-02-17, 12:45 PM

Art, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

I have a friend whose apartment bldg overlooks Central park..and she said.. it's like a stack of dominos and everytime she walks to her elevator she wants to reach out and hit one to see if they'd all fall down.

Robbo · 2005-02-15, 09:49 PM

No less art than people hanging suspened by thier chests on either side of the stage for a Sepultura concert I guess or the Mona Lisa hanging in a cold gallery hallway for that matter. I think the couple summed it up best when they said simply "we do it for ourselves, if others like it that`s juat a bonus." What money can`t buy these days. You get to redecorate central park for 20 mil or so!

Like music and other pursuits of passion they just have to come out no matter how rediculous or obscure just as humans must emote in any other fashion.

2005-02-15, 09:12 AM	#1
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Is This Really "Art"? http://www.christojeanneclaude.net/tg.html 25 years in the making (Christo came up with the concept back in 1979) $20 million to get it set up (out of Christo's pocket from what I hear) I'm far from being a cultured man, but calling this collection of poles & curtains "art" is a bit far fetched for me. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-02-15, 09:17 AM	#2
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2005-02-15, 09:19 AM	#4
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Isn't this the same person that wrapped the islands in Biscayne Bay down here in pink fabric? Yeah I don't get it either but then I also don't get cum shot galleries. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-02-15, 09:22 AM	#5
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Cleo - this crap? http://christojeanneclaude.net/si.html ...and I'd bet more people get cumshot galleries than do this stuff __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-02-15, 09:28 AM	#7
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Yeah that is it. lol I seem to also remember that he did umbrellas and that one of them fell over and killed someone on his last "art" thing. I'm going to put yesterday's meal up for art after I produce it this morning and see how much I can sell it for. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-02-15, 09:31 AM	#6
tiny Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: maine Posts: 447	Thats what happens when you have too much time and money I guess 40yrs haha http://www.40yearsofpublicart.org/index.html

2005-02-15, 09:37 AM	#8
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	I thought the same thing, but if he has $21 million to spend on this.... he must be doing something right.....

2005-02-15, 09:42 AM	#9
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I heard he sells sketches & paintings & whatnot in order to raise money for these big stupid projects of his. You'd think that he'd also sell these afterwords & make a couple bucks, but no. Everything will be recycled - I can see the aluminum, as it's cost effective to recycle that - but the plastic curtains? It costs $150 a ton to properly recycle plastic - it costs $50 a ton to properly dispose if it in a garbage land fill (and no matter what anyone says, we've got plenty of room in the existing land fills for another 1000 years of garbage) __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-02-15, 10:13 AM	#11
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	Cum shots are not art. Group cum shots...now that's a thing of beauty. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-02-15, 09:44 AM	#12
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2005-02-15, 10:26 AM	#13
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I just got out of the shower so I'm sitting in my bungee office chair naked which gives me waffle butt. Maybe I should take pics of my butt and call it Waffles In The Morning. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-02-15, 10:54 AM	#15
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	reminds me of when I used to run through the sheets hanging on the clothesline. Amazes me that someone took 25 years and $20 million to dream this stuff up. I could have done it in a few hours, and for $18 million. __________________ SnapReplay.com a different way to share photos - iPhone & Android

2005-02-16, 06:16 AM	#18
Kinky HEY NOW! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in the Matrix Glitching on an Endless Loop. Loop. Loop. Loop. Loo Posts: 1,218	20 million and admission is free? WTF somebody go snag a curtain and sell it on e-bay for a cool million and they used the same damned content 7500 times... that is an instant delete here __________________ don't mind me im nothing but nonsense <3 Last edited by Kinky; 2005-02-16 at 06:18 AM..

2005-02-16, 08:32 AM	#19
johnshinil WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 40	Great link I think these pictures are more artistic than most of impressionist's crap. __________________ 2257CONTENT.COM ICQ: 92-913-918

2005-02-15, 11:21 AM	#20
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	Bloomberg. And I was 3 days from getting the final permitting. Now I'll look like a copycat. __________________ SnapReplay.com a different way to share photos - iPhone & Android

2005-02-15, 12:40 PM	#21
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	Art is anything people will look at by choice. So yes, this is art. But then so is a badly preserved shark slowly rotting in a tank art, so is a car crash art, so is a big fire art, and yes, so is a cumshot picture art (although I think technically a cumshot gallery is not, it is a collection of works of art - the clue is in the word gallery)

2005-02-15, 07:56 PM	#22
KCat With $10,000, we'd be millionaires! We could buy all kinds of useful things like ... love! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 313	I LOVE this: "Each separate "gate" would be merely a relic of the artwork and not a work of art. Seven thousand, five hundred structures together in Central Park IS a work of art." So...my shower curtain on its own is not a work of art, but if I got together 7500 shower curtains & strung 'em up in Central Park, that would be genius. I'm off to Ikea!

2005-02-17, 12:45 PM	#24
docholly Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sin-City USA Posts: 4,973	Art, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. I have a friend whose apartment bldg overlooks Central park..and she said.. it's like a stack of dominos and everytime she walks to her elevator she wants to reach out and hit one to see if they'd all fall down. __________________ Support Indie Porn Sites OMGoddess You know you need some Bling!!

2005-02-15, 09:49 PM	#25
Robbo No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Greenguy County, NY Posts: 236	No less art than people hanging suspened by thier chests on either side of the stage for a Sepultura concert I guess or the Mona Lisa hanging in a cold gallery hallway for that matter. I think the couple summed it up best when they said simply "we do it for ourselves, if others like it that`s juat a bonus." What money can`t buy these days. You get to redecorate central park for 20 mil or so! Like music and other pursuits of passion they just have to come out no matter how rediculous or obscure just as humans must emote in any other fashion.