Affiliate Backward Links

urb · 2003-10-28, 11:25 AM

Does Googlebot follow cgi code like CCBill codes, to the resolving domain?

If this is true, then are keyword rich text links on affiliate sites bumping up sponsor sites' backward links?

DangerDave · 2003-10-28, 04:00 PM

What you know who said.. on the other board is correct IMO as far as theory goes...

but experience tells me that a strong,relevant page can pass PR thru a CCBill link.

Will PM you the details in relation to the site in question..

DD

urb · 2003-10-29, 05:06 AM

Many thanks Dave.

garv · 2003-10-29, 05:19 AM

I've been led to believe that a link with a ? in it will not be followed by the google bot. IF that's a big IF this is true then my guess is no, but I have never found any more info on this.

I have however tried linking to a site that has a pr of 2 with a PR of 5 and the affiliate site didn't rise at all.

so don't know if that helps.

regards
garv

urb · 2003-10-29, 05:59 AM

Thanks garv

Does anyone think mouseovers block Googlebot?

matt · 2003-10-29, 08:54 PM

I have ? pages indexed in google

However they're all pr0, and I suspect the ? may be the reason.

And urb I don't think mouseovers make any difference at all!

Matt

DangerDave · 2003-10-30, 12:23 AM

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I've been led to believe that a link with a ? in it will not be followed by the google bot

In the old days yes.. but now it does query links, but is limited by the complexity of the query.

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Does anyone think mouseovers block Googlebot

IMO no way... it has no effect whatsoever, though the question remains ..does it actually enhance it? with KW's or txt?

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However they're all pr0, and I suspect the ? may be the reason.

IMO it will not pass on the same relevance and PR that a straight link will, but it does pass thru some effect. I dont think the ? would make you page a 0... it is much more likely to be a recent spider.

DD

Kush · 2003-10-30, 01:40 AM

NO, I do not think that it passes through mouseovers.

I don't really want to go into it, but I did some research and have my own personal data to backup my conclusions that it doesn't pass through mouseovers (or at least the kind that I use)

urb · 2003-10-30, 06:09 AM

Thanks folks.

How about one of those cgi-clicks manager progs..... any recommendations? Not the php one on this board.... is there a nice simple perl script for managing banners?

garv · 2003-10-30, 11:43 AM

Matt how long have your pages being up?

It seems to be taking between 6 to 8 weeks for google to give a PR to a new site at the moment.

regards
garv

RawAlex · 2003-10-30, 12:44 PM

I made a simple program that allowed referes to point to a site link rather than a CCBill link. Even without counting clicks, it makes things neater and makes it much easier for your affiliate to link to you.

Alex

matt · 2003-10-30, 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by garv
Matt how long have your pages being up?

The oldest ones have been there for 11 months

I also have other non ? .cgi files that should definately have a pr that show up as 0.

This makes me think that the way a dynamic page works dicatates whether it can be assigned a pr or not.

Matt

Linkster · 2003-10-30, 07:07 PM

matt...what I believe DDave was referring to when he said the complexity of the url makes the difference is: if you use more than two variables, or any session dependent ids or anything that looks like them, Google doesnt want to spider them as it could be generated database pages and they would end up botting billions of extra pages - especially if they let on that we could dynamically generate "pages".
As far as the PR passing through, I can think of many affiliate programs that get loads of backlinks from their affiliates to transfer PR and therefore have PRs on some pages up to 6s that I have seen.

If you review the Google webmaster pages they describe (although you might have to read a little between the lines) exactly what they will crawl and will not.

AussieWebmaster · 2003-11-12, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by RawAlex
I made a simple program that allowed referes to point to a site link rather than a CCBill link. Even without counting clicks, it makes things neater and makes it much easier for your affiliate to link to you.

Alex

This is the most effective way to get rid of the headache... was going to suggest it but it is here... use a script and leave the simple url on the page...

2003-10-28, 11:25 AM	#1
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Affiliate Backward Links Does Googlebot follow cgi code like CCBill codes, to the resolving domain? If this is true, then are keyword rich text links on affiliate sites bumping up sponsor sites' backward links?

2003-10-28, 04:00 PM	#2
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	What you know who said.. on the other board is correct IMO as far as theory goes... but experience tells me that a strong,relevant page can pass PR thru a CCBill link. Will PM you the details in relation to the site in question.. DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-10-29, 08:54 PM	#6
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2003-10-30, 01:40 AM	#8
Kush Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 201	NO, I do not think that it passes through mouseovers. I don't really want to go into it, but I did some research and have my own personal data to backup my conclusions that it doesn't pass through mouseovers (or at least the kind that I use) __________________ 120x60 Max For Sig Files

2003-10-30, 07:07 PM	#13
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	matt...what I believe DDave was referring to when he said the complexity of the url makes the difference is: if you use more than two variables, or any session dependent ids or anything that looks like them, Google doesnt want to spider them as it could be generated database pages and they would end up botting billions of extra pages - especially if they let on that we could dynamically generate "pages". As far as the PR passing through, I can think of many affiliate programs that get loads of backlinks from their affiliates to transfer PR and therefore have PRs on some pages up to 6s that I have seen. If you review the Google webmaster pages they describe (although you might have to read a little between the lines) exactly what they will crawl and will not. __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2003-10-29, 05:06 AM	#3
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Many thanks Dave.

2003-10-29, 05:19 AM	#4
garv They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Paris Posts: 145	I've been led to believe that a link with a ? in it will not be followed by the google bot. IF that's a big IF this is true then my guess is no, but I have never found any more info on this. I have however tried linking to a site that has a pr of 2 with a PR of 5 and the affiliate site didn't rise at all. so don't know if that helps. regards garv

2003-10-29, 05:59 AM	#5
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Thanks garv Does anyone think mouseovers block Googlebot?

2003-10-30, 06:09 AM	#9
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Thanks folks. How about one of those cgi-clicks manager progs..... any recommendations? Not the php one on this board.... is there a nice simple perl script for managing banners?

2003-10-30, 11:43 AM	#10
garv They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Paris Posts: 145	Matt how long have your pages being up? It seems to be taking between 6 to 8 weeks for google to give a PR to a new site at the moment. regards garv

2003-10-30, 12:44 PM	#11
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I made a simple program that allowed referes to point to a site link rather than a CCBill link. Even without counting clicks, it makes things neater and makes it much easier for your affiliate to link to you. Alex