Please Don't Promote Sites To Death

MadMax · 2005-10-03, 10:26 PM

Just a note as I continue making my way through my backlog

Promoting a few sites consistently is a great strategy to see if they convert on free site traffic. Building and submitting a free site every day that promotes the same sponsor site is suicide for two reasons:

1) Link list owners won't fill up an entire category with similar looking free sites that promote the same paysite

2) Even if you successfully filled up one of my categories, if a surfer isn't turned on by the one particular site you're promoting you just lost a bunch of potential sales because you didn't diversify.

Promoting one niche until you're really good at it then moving on to another is a great idea. Promoting the same site every day for 2 months isn't.

You need to rotate the niches you promote or at least rotate the sites if you're sticking with a single niche.

A few from my overpromoted list:

--American Fatties
--Young Fatties
--MILF Cruiser
--Hardcore Partying (their free content doesn't even contain nudity until about 50 sec. in, and if I was a surfer and clicked on 4 movie clips and still haven't seen any titty I'm OUT)

Not ragging on anyone in particular, just noticing trends here. A trend I see in my longtime submitters is that they build a site every day and rotate between 3 or 4 niches

Mateusz · 2005-10-04, 04:54 AM

Great post - I totally agree.
I got my sites splitted in more than 30 categories and try to filter those who do well for me. Anyway, from time to time I also try those worse niches just promoting other paysites - you never know how will it convert with your traffic untill you don't give it a try.
Submitting 15 sites into one niche and 1 to other will make you to draw wrong conclusions and will stick you for good in this one niche, what as MadMax said is suicide

Jel · 2005-10-04, 04:59 AM

Can I get an 'Amen' !!!

Great post and advice Max & Mateusz

Surfn · 2005-10-04, 05:28 AM

MadMax

Emerald · 2005-10-04, 07:18 AM

Got my vote for good advice!

docholly · 2005-10-04, 09:38 AM

tranny island
bang boat/bus/back of the limo

MrYum · 2005-10-04, 10:13 AM

Yup, that's some good advice right there

frankthetank · 2005-10-04, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

Can I get an 'Amen' !!!

Great post and advice Max & Mateusz

Just for you again: AMEN... |king|

And thank´s again for your help some time ago, it does very very well for me.

ynuahayt · 2005-10-04, 10:53 AM

The only sites I'm receiving too many of is TCG's Mr. Chew and Pimp my Black Teen

And great advice MadMax, mix it up and learn learn learn!

ronnie · 2005-10-04, 02:17 PM

Good luck getting any one to stop..lol They never seem to listen.

ronnie

dareutwo · 2005-10-04, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie

Good luck getting any one to stop..lol They never seem to listen.

ronnie

That's why we have black lists

I realize that with a new sponsor, everything is new to you. But on my end, I've probably already seen it hundreds of times.
Diversify and buy some damn content for yourself, it's not that expensive.
Look at the top here, Resources > Content Providers

ronnie · 2005-10-04, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dareutwo

That's why we have black lists

Very true. And so many people why they dont make money in this biz...

But yes, good post Max.

ronnie

RawAlex · 2005-10-04, 03:00 PM

I was actually considering a little thing for my submit page that would look at your previous submit and not allow you to submit to the same category. I ahve a low tolerance for tempalted crap sites, so I tend to just push the "decline" button a fair bit... and if it gets to be too much, I click the "blacklist" button and I don't have to deal with those anymore.

But an automated system might be a good way to keep people from over doing it.

Alex

Sean416 · 2005-10-04, 03:24 PM

Great post Max, I completely agree.

Jel · 2005-10-04, 06:30 PM

You're more than welcome Frank

btw you have a PM

mrenaud · 2005-10-04, 08:08 PM

OK so I'm building 2 galleries a day and a free site.

I'm only working the teen niche and busty niche right now.

Lay it out for me how I should be building and submitting.

Is this routine ok:

Day 1 - Build a teen fs with sponsor A
Day 2 - Build a busty fs with sponsor B
Day 3 - Build a teen fs with sponsor C
Day 4 - Build a busty fs with sponsor D

Then repeat?

Surfn · 2005-10-04, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrenaud

OK so I'm building 2 galleries a day and a free site.

I'm only working the teen niche and busty niche right now.

Lay it out for me how I should be building and submitting.

Is this routine ok:

Day 1 - Build a teen fs with sponsor A
Day 2 - Build a busty fs with sponsor B
Day 3 - Build a teen fs with sponsor C
Day 4 - Build a busty fs with sponsor D

Then repeat?

If you change your templates

But what are you going to do the rest of the month? Since you've pretty much used up you niche for this month.

mrenaud · 2005-10-04, 09:36 PM

Quote:

If you change your templates
But what are you going to do the rest of the month? Since you've pretty much used up you niche for this month.

I build "new" sites each day. So after the first month I'll have 30 templates....

I'm not really sure what you mean for "the rest of the month?

sue-fl · 2005-10-04, 11:12 PM

good one madmax! If I see any more milfcruiser sites I'm going to scream. I'm doing a check and delete of a lot of my submitted sites tomorrow.

2005-10-03, 10:26 PM	#1
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	Please Don't Promote Sites To Death Just a note as I continue making my way through my backlog Promoting a few sites consistently is a great strategy to see if they convert on free site traffic. Building and submitting a free site every day that promotes the same sponsor site is suicide for two reasons: 1) Link list owners won't fill up an entire category with similar looking free sites that promote the same paysite 2) Even if you successfully filled up one of my categories, if a surfer isn't turned on by the one particular site you're promoting you just lost a bunch of potential sales because you didn't diversify. Promoting one niche until you're really good at it then moving on to another is a great idea. Promoting the same site every day for 2 months isn't. You need to rotate the niches you promote or at least rotate the sites if you're sticking with a single niche. A few from my overpromoted list: --American Fatties --Young Fatties --MILF Cruiser --Hardcore Partying (their free content doesn't even contain nudity until about 50 sec. in, and if I was a surfer and clicked on 4 movie clips and still haven't seen any titty I'm OUT) Not ragging on anyone in particular, just noticing trends here. A trend I see in my longtime submitters is that they build a site every day and rotate between 3 or 4 niches

2005-10-04, 05:28 AM	#4
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2005-10-04, 07:18 AM	#5
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2005-10-04, 09:38 AM	#6
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2005-10-04, 10:13 AM	#7
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2005-10-04, 04:54 AM	#2
Mateusz Screw you, guys. I'm going home. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gliwice, Poland Posts: 996	Great post - I totally agree. I got my sites splitted in more than 30 categories and try to filter those who do well for me. Anyway, from time to time I also try those worse niches just promoting other paysites - you never know how will it convert with your traffic untill you don't give it a try. Submitting 15 sites into one niche and 1 to other will make you to draw wrong conclusions and will stick you for good in this one niche, what as MadMax said is suicide

2005-10-04, 04:59 AM	#3
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	Can I get an 'Amen' !!! Great post and advice Max & Mateusz

2005-10-04, 10:53 AM	#9
ynuahayt My wife is not a doobie to be passed around! On our wedding day I promised to bogart her for life! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 274	The only sites I'm receiving too many of is TCG's Mr. Chew and Pimp my Black Teen And great advice MadMax, mix it up and learn learn learn! __________________ Free Blog/Free Site Traffic @ yLovesPorn.com

2005-10-04, 02:17 PM	#10
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	Good luck getting any one to stop..lol They never seem to listen. ronnie

2005-10-04, 03:00 PM	#13
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I was actually considering a little thing for my submit page that would look at your previous submit and not allow you to submit to the same category. I ahve a low tolerance for tempalted crap sites, so I tend to just push the "decline" button a fair bit... and if it gets to be too much, I click the "blacklist" button and I don't have to deal with those anymore. But an automated system might be a good way to keep people from over doing it. Alex

2005-10-04, 03:24 PM	#14
Sean416 Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 207	Great post Max, I completely agree. __________________ Submit to More Porn For Me Interested in Link Exchanges?

2005-10-04, 06:30 PM	#15
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	You're more than welcome Frank btw you have a PM

2005-10-04, 08:08 PM	#16
mrenaud If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 240	OK so I'm building 2 galleries a day and a free site. I'm only working the teen niche and busty niche right now. Lay it out for me how I should be building and submitting. Is this routine ok: Day 1 - Build a teen fs with sponsor A Day 2 - Build a busty fs with sponsor B Day 3 - Build a teen fs with sponsor C Day 4 - Build a busty fs with sponsor D Then repeat?

2005-10-04, 11:12 PM	#19
sue-fl You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,837	good one madmax! If I see any more milfcruiser sites I'm going to scream. I'm doing a check and delete of a lot of my submitted sites tomorrow.