What type of content do you use, purchased, sponsor, exclusive or combination?

[graphicsbytia]

Enquiring minds want to know

How do you obtain your content? I've set up this poll as private, so no names will be shown. I've been thinking about something for a while now and would like some input from you guys.

[KG Gary]

100% bought content for me at the moment.
I've only used three companies to purchase from so far and they're all pretty good. I would like to find more though, and I don't mind paying a little above the usual for a good set of photos.

[terry]

Varies for me. If I am promoting another sponsor I will use their content but if I am promoting my sites then I'll use my content. However, my content could be shot in house or purchased.

Nice site you got there Tia. I have bookmarked it!

[emmanuelle]

We shoot 95% in house, and purchase about 5%

[GenXer]

I use a combination of sponsor and purchased

[RawAlex]

If I am promoting a sponsor, I think there is nothing better in the world than to use their content to promote their product. I know the surfers will be better clients if they are getting what I offered.

Alex

[pvtspanky]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

If I am promoting a sponsor, I think there is nothing better in the world than to use their content to promote their product. I know the surfers will be better clients if they are getting what I offered.

Alex

I agree 100% with you on this. And god damnit, I preach this all the time, and there seems to be so many people who dont seem to give a shit about my point. The few who do, are some of my biggest inspirations though...

I am just a submitter. I don't own any members area. Hell, I don't even run a TGP/MGP, or linklist. But, I am a firm believer that the content you use should reflect what's inside the members area. Not just by niche, but by models too.

Years ago I messed around in this biz for a while. I joined a site I was promoting just to see what was in the members area. I was so pissed that the site I joined from had nothing to do with what was going on in the members area. The models were not inside, not only that, half the shit didn't work, and this was for a major sponsor that is still around today. I'm not mentioning any names. But I was so mad, that I got out of the industry for a while. Not only did misleading the surfer piss off the surfer, but it also pissed of the webmaster trying to promote them. That's fucked up.

I'm happy with what I'm doing now, and the people I choose to promote. I am a lot more careful of who I choose to promote now.

I even bought content that no one has seen before, that I don't use because I know it's not in the members area. I might aswell make a coaster for my coffee table out of it.

I understand the reviewers pain when seeing so much of the same content over and over again. But misleading the surfer with content is as bad as misleading them with a blind link or "Enter" on a banner of a freesite index page.

I could go on... I'm going to bite my tongue for now...

[spookyx]

Since most of my sites are for named JAV models I have to use sponsor content. I contact the sponsor and get access to the paysite for content. If they don't give it. I move on. Japanese Girl content is so hard to buy from american content producers. most think generic "asian" will work. they are so wrong


Tia

Buzzard is a whore
Rock on WillyB

Interesting post pvtspanky.

I've been looking around at a few sites for the review site we will soon open and I'm a bit aghast at the interior of some sites, the promises made and the actual product delivered. Very often it's a case of if they used the interior of the site to promote the site they would struggle to get sign ups.

However on this subject of using sponsor or your own. Very few people buy in content to promote and that's why the few who do buy, carry on buying.

However matching the content on a freesite to the content inside the sponsors site is an art. But even when you can buy the content inside a site to promote it how many do?

Lightspeed is now building solo girl sites with girls we shot and we sold him the content. Content he's not allowed to give to affiliates because of the license. So how many people buy those sets to promote the sites? Two.

For those who think a sponsor buying a set for $35 gives a sponsor the right to give it to who ever he likes.

I'm in business to make money and if we sold a set to 10 sponsors at $35 to give to 10,000 affiliates our business would collapse.

[KG Gary]

I'd love to be able to use actual content from the site I'm promoting in my freesites, but the fear of the "overused sponsor content" rejection stops me.
Should I just use some and see what happens?
Or make sure I watch the sponsors closely and jump on the newest content available?


I've thought about asking sponsors for a set of exclusive photos to promote, but I'm not really established enough yet for that.

"See more of girlsname at blahdotcom" must be a pretty good piece of sales text.

[KG Gary]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham2

However matching the content on a freesite to the content inside the sponsors site is an art. But even when you can buy the content inside a site to promote it how many do?

Lightspeed is now building solo girl sites with girls we shot and we sold him the content. Content he's not allowed to give to affiliates because of the license. So how many people buy those sets to promote the sites? Two.

I had no idea that this was possible! I assumed that almost all paysites shot their own stuff. Very interesting.

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by spookyx

Since most of my sites are for named JAV models I have to use sponsor content. I contact the sponsor and get access to the paysite for content. If they don't give it. I move on. Japanese Girl content is so hard to buy from american content producers. most think generic "asian" will work. they are so wrong


Tia

Buzzard is a whore
Rock on WillyB

You've told me that before about asian content spookyx, and I always remembered what you said. I have to admit, I have a hard time telling the difference between some of the different asian cultures. I do know it makes a huge difference though.

I was just thinking about Buzzard when I read your post.. I like to think that he, WillyB and your sweetheart are up there listening to music together

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by pvtspanky

I agree 100% with you on this. And god damnit, I preach this all the time, and there seems to be so many people who dont seem to give a shit about my point. The few who do, are some of my biggest inspirations though...

I am just a submitter. I don't own any members area. Hell, I don't even run a TGP/MGP, or linklist. But, I am a firm believer that the content you use should reflect what's inside the members area. Not just by niche, but by models too.

Years ago I messed around in this biz for a while. I joined a site I was promoting just to see what was in the members area. I was so pissed that the site I joined from had nothing to do with what was going on in the members area. The models were not inside, not only that, half the shit didn't work, and this was for a major sponsor that is still around today. I'm not mentioning any names. But I was so mad, that I got out of the industry for a while. Not only did misleading the surfer piss off the surfer, but it also pissed of the webmaster trying to promote them. That's fucked up.

I'm happy with what I'm doing now, and the people I choose to promote. I am a lot more careful of who I choose to promote now.

I even bought content that no one has seen before, that I don't use because I know it's not in the members area. I might aswell make a coaster for my coffee table out of it.

I understand the reviewers pain when seeing so much of the same content over and over again. But misleading the surfer with content is as bad as misleading them with a blind link or "Enter" on a banner of a freesite index page.

I could go on... I'm going to bite my tongue for now...

excellent post pvtspanky.. and do say more!

[graphicsbytia]

great reponses guys, keep 'em coming! I have this poll on two other boards, and will post the results on all three here after a few days

[graphicsbytia]

interesting results so far

[emmanuelle]

I get annoyed when people use purchased content to promote us. I think that we offer a good selection to affiliates, and make it well known that we're even willing to shoot something specific that an affiliate needs. I would much prefer to do that, than risk misleading potential members. Finally, most of the purchased material in our niches isn't quite on target, thus hurting affiliate's sales.

[MeatPounder]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I get annoyed when people use purchased content to promote us. I think that we offer a good selection to affiliates, and make it well known that we're even willing to shoot something specific that an affiliate needs. I would much prefer to do that, than risk misleading potential members. Finally, most of the purchased material in our niches isn't quite on target, thus hurting affiliate's sales.

The sad thing Em, is many link lists will not list a site with your watermarked content, not from us submitters that is for most either make there own freesites with tht content, use FHS with that content, or even a combo of both.
Other link lists MAY list sites using your free content, but not if they have seen that set(girl, guy, setting) recently.

With a single girl/guy site it is almost an absolute to use their content...as with many of the Theme sites such as Captain Stabbin.

At least with some of the specialty niche sites you can find purchased content that goes with the theme of the niche site, and thus stand a hugely greater chance of getting listed.

And as far as getting special content from the site owner that is not usually available to affiliates, that elps...but the major players in the link list business usually have access to that same content and so the above still affects using that content.

The last year of more and more sponsor FHS has really increased the difficulty of an average free site builder getting a site listed with any sponsor content. Now with Chop and Greenguys new project it even makes it worse.

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by MeatPounder

The sad thing Em, is many link lists will not list a site with your watermarked content, not from us submitters that is for most either make there own freesites with tht content, use FHS with that content, or even a combo of both.
Other link lists MAY list sites using your free content, but not if they have seen that set(girl, guy, setting) recently.

With a single girl/guy site it is almost an absolute to use their content...as with many of the Theme sites such as Captain Stabbin.

At least with some of the specialty niche sites you can find purchased content that goes with the theme of the niche site, and thus stand a hugely greater chance of getting listed.

And as far as getting special content from the site owner that is not usually available to affiliates, that elps...but the major players in the link list business usually have access to that same content and so the above still affects using that content.

The last year of more and more sponsor FHS has really increased the difficulty of an average free site builder getting a site listed with any sponsor content. Now with Chop and Greenguys new project it even makes it worse.

This is just the kind of good information a thread like this can bring out. Who's going to take the time to tell a sponsor what they don't like about the free content they offer? It's like anything else, a restaurant for example, you'd be surprised at how few people complain about the food when they find something they don't like, they just stop going to the restaurant.

Feedback like this is worth a lot in my opinion

[Useless]

Originally Posted by MeatPounder

The sad thing Em, is many link lists will not list a site with your watermarked content, not from us submitters that is for most either make there own freesites with tht content, use FHS with that content, or even a combo of both.

Very, very few link lists completely disallow sponsor content. Maybe the content isn't the reason your sites aren't getting accepted.

Originally Posted by MeatPounder

The last year of more and more sponsor FHS has really increased the difficulty of an average free site builder getting a site listed with any sponsor content. Now with Chop and Greenguys new project it even makes it worse.

Hosted galleries have been around for ages, yet gallery submitters using sponsor content don't seem to be fading away. Sure, hosted sites do make it unnecessary for list owners to list every shit free site submitted to them, but they certainly won't dampen the need for quality submissions from trusted submitters. Good free site submitters who continue to construct good sites have nothing to worry about.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Hosted galleries have been around for ages, yet gallery submitters using sponsor content don't seem to be fading away.

We've all seen our fair share of poorly designed hosted galleries. There will always be a place for those that can build quality galleries and free sites.

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Sure, hosted sites do make it unnecessary for list owners to list every shit free site submitted to them, but they certainly won't dampen the need for quality submissions from trusted submitters. Good free site submitters who continue to construct good sites have nothing to worry about.

Some very good points made in this thread. Agreed, some paysites it's almost necessary to use their content. While some of the more generic sites can be promoted quite successfully with purchased content. It really comes down to the site you're promoting as to what you can/should use.

I have absolutely no problem with quality sponsor content being used on free sites. I will however decline sites if the quality is too poor. Always surprises me that a sponsor would release absolutely crap content to affiliates to promote their site

Just declined a site last night...sponsor watermarked content...fuzzy as hell vid caps...274x399 size. I'm sure that gets listed in lots of places.

I quoted UW above because his statement bore repeating

Quality submitters have absolutely nothing to worry about from HFS. I'll always take all the quality trusted submitters I can get

[sue-fl]

I use all bought content. After reading this thread I'm thinking I don't have to buy as much I'm the type that figures if I use sponsor content it will be some that the LL's have already seen.

Agree with MrYum about the quality of the sponsor content though. I've been getting a lot of screen caps that are way to blurry.

[Woodspan]

Very informative and timely topic........for me anyway. I do submit to galleries part-time in between my schooling and raising kids. I have had some success with two sponsers that I would like to promote further. I prefer the softcore content each sponser offered, but they only offered one softcore set with the rest being hardcore. I contacted each sponser twice with a polite inquirey as to whether I could aquire a few more softcore sets to further promote their sites. Each E-mail was sent two weeks apart so as not to appear I was badgering.

Neither sponser replied to me unfortunatley and I understand they are busy and probably get tons of bogus requests for freebie content.

My question is...............am I just too small and need to establish/confirm myself further to be considered trustworthy, or do I need to go about it another way. Neither sponser is major from what I see, but they offer unique opportunities I'd like to pursue further.

I purchased some content recently, but after reading this thread I thought I would inquire before I used it.

Thank you in advance

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by Woodspan

Very informative and timely topic........for me anyway. I do submit to galleries part-time in between my schooling and raising kids. I have had some success with two sponsers that I would like to promote further. I prefer the softcore content each sponser offered, but they only offered one softcore set with the rest being hardcore. I contacted each sponser twice with a polite inquirey as to whether I could aquire a few more softcore sets to further promote their sites. Each E-mail was sent two weeks apart so as not to appear I was badgering.

Neither sponser replied to me unfortunatley and I understand they are busy and probably get tons of bogus requests for freebie content.

My question is...............am I just too small and need to establish/confirm myself further to be considered trustworthy, or do I need to go about it another way. Neither sponser is major from what I see, but they offer unique opportunities I'd like to pursue further.

I purchased some content recently, but after reading this thread I thought I would inquire before I used it.

Thank you in advance

It seems to me that a sponsor that didn't bother to answer your e-mails is either not active, or does not care about their affiliates. I would think twice about using a sponsor like that myself.

Don't give up, you have the right idea. Contacting the people you want to promote is ALWAYS a good idea, and the ones that will do well for you are the ones that will corrospond willingly and in a timely manner. Remember the old saying.. if you want something done, ask a busy person. Successful and busy people always make time for the ones that will potentially make them money.

As far as using your purchased content to promote this paysite, it really depends on the site. As some others have stated, some paysites don't lend themselves well to targeted niche content, where others do.

Also, don't forget about your traffic.. always make sure your traffic belongs to YOU! Using sponsor content is somewhat of a risk when for example, you get a good search engine listing. What if the sponsor is not converting well? You're stuck, because you can't use their content to promote anyone else but them... Something to think about

[Ramster]

Paul makes some real good points. It is the rare paysite that uses exclusive content all the time unless you shoot it yourself. I'm sure there are many that do but not all.

As Paul said exclusive is not cheap. I use both exclusive and bought content for my paysites. A good mix and reasonable pricing in the long run.

When promoting sponsors I use their content mostly but will on occassion use content I have bought.