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Old 2003-09-01, 05:14 PM   #1
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Angry Why's content buying such a FRUSTRATING experience?

...every time I go looking for new content all I get is frustrated!
If it would be an easy and pleasurable task I probably would spend much more money... By now I have wasted over 2 hours looking for just one decent new set, lost all the impetus, and haven't spend a Dime!

Some sites you simply can't buy from at all due to ongoing CC merchant problems (eg. Paul Markham, but also some others who only accept MasterCard and JBL, both of which I don't have), some sites are terrible to navigate (eg. Adult Content Zone - click "Preview" and the main page jumps back up to the top so you lose focus of where you've been up to), others show you small over-compressed images as previews (smaller than I would publish on any tgp gallery) or tiny thumbnails where I (who needs reading glasses) can't see a thing (certainly not if there's a cum shot included), or you get 'broken image links' (no preview at all) or ... So the list goes on!

Hence here my list of what I expect of a decent content store:
· content sorted by category (and single models within category by features, eg. 'Toy', 'Blonde', 'Tiny Tits', 'Hairy Pussy', etc.)
· clear thumbnails of all pictures in a set (minimum 160 pixels long side, better 240 pixels)
· two or three un-compressed previews which actually show at least in one the face and upper body of the model(s) - I don't like to buy a Dildo series for a nice pussy when the girl shows a terrible facial expression all thru the series!
· I prefer to find the date of first publication so I don't buy what's two years old (actually: I have found a few sets which I would have bought would I know that they're relatively new).
· I also want to know if you're the second or third business publishing the same stuff (notice to JACT and ACC!) - I get pissed off and very suspicious if I find sets labbeled as 'new' which I know for ages or even have bought some two years ago.
· fast loading and easy to navigate! Bugger all the fancy Flash and graphics! You're not there to win a web design competition - you're there to get me quickly to where I want to spend my money!
· Don't favor pay site owners too heavily with the same packages!
Either have two lines of merchandise (one for tgp people and free sites, another one with some exclusive images/clips for paysites), or don't bug us little people with deals like "50% off if you spend 5 grand"... It'll help paysites retaining members if at least parts of their content can't be found on free galleries, and it helps us gallery people if we can advertise sites with exclusive content...

o.k. - steam's out - enough
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Old 2003-09-01, 05:18 PM   #2
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Yes, I know that frustration well. I just went through it this morning. Nothing like getting up at 6am to look for content.

It's like none of these sites think of the potential customers. I only know of a small handfull of easy to navigate and well put together sites with content that I want.
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Old 2003-09-01, 05:26 PM   #3
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Yeah that pretty much sums up my content buying experience and what I want from a content provider.

It really drives me crazy when I can't find out how old the content is or how many have already bought it.
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Too right!

I stick to a certain number of content providers for those exact reasons..

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Old 2003-09-01, 11:38 PM   #5
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Even though I got slated for not having a decent processor, I think we do have a good system.

You want up to date sets? Then get on mailing lists and get emails showing you the new sets. You can even store them in another file for a few weeks and just go through them later.

Then when you see the set you are intersted in go to the site. Much easier than trawling around sites in the hope of finding what you want.

On our site you can add a set you like to your basket and come back to purchase it later. As for navigating a site yes some are nightmares, but even with the different catagories and the search facility (32 fitlers) we still get people who ask us if we do videos or B/G and G/G. *Must remember to add the search filter on blondes.*

As for full size samples and two to 3 of them, well that is going to burn B/W and when we did it made no difference to sales.

But will take a note of some of your suggestios and see how we can improve them. We did actually ask clients in the beginning what they wanted and we got slated for "Spamming"

OUR MAIN PROCESSOR CAN NOT TAKE VISA AND MASTERCARD ANYMORE, HE IS TRYING TO RECTIFY THIS. HE CAN TAKE ALL OTHERS INCLUDING BANK TRANSFERS FROM THE US. WE ALSO EPASSPORTE.
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Old 2003-09-02, 12:02 AM   #6
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Paul, I'm sorry that I mentioned your site, too!

But that's because that's where the frustration started: last week I had an order in my basket, ready to 'check-out', and -ooops- not the right credit card... And then no time to 'go looking'.

Apart from this hiccup you have probably one the best site set-ups I came across so far!. I certainly like buying from you (even though I haven't very much... For a while I needed more group action than couple). And the option with an overseas check is out of question for a single set because it kinda doubles the expense, and the few times I have bought multiple sets always ended in chaos: either I forgot to publish one, or one of my main competing sites was suddenly ahead with publishing the same set, or in case of Reyko the content was suddenly on every second tgp gallery...

Could I open a sort of account with you and deposit $s covering (let's say) the price of 6 sets and deduct orders from that?
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Old 2003-09-02, 12:19 AM   #7
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You sure can pay that way. It's actually a good idea. Anything to get away from third party processors and their stupid ways of doing business, rules and rates.

Would even give guys doing it this way 5% discount.

Hit me on ICQ.

And thanks for the recommendation.
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Old 2003-09-02, 01:16 AM   #8
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Could anybody comment on our setup?

Enter Link

We would like to hear your inputs

We have recently also added new advanced search

http://reyko.com/index2.php?advanced

(Working only with models at the moment)
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Old 2003-09-02, 01:27 AM   #9
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Could anybody comment on our setup?
Since I started this thread: Cirrus, I have no major problem with your site, either!

There are a few minor things, like
· why can't I get a cookie set - instead of having to log in every time (and go searching for my pwd)
· your horizontal thumbs are a little small (same width as portrait)
· I would prefer a little larger (non-sepia) initial preview
· specially in your case I would be buying more if I could get tgp sets (of something like 25 pics).

+ you have a lot of good content
+ a lot of stuff good for fetish (but why would I really buy a complete set of lesbian action if I can't convert lesbian, but use like 15 pics for advertising Foot Fetish - fill this up to 20 for a tgp gallery and bin the remaining 70-80 images?)
+ your search functions are excellent AND fast!
- some sets I bought from you needed a fair bit of work with color corrections (eg. Anita fucked on stair)

I visited your site today, but there was no new hardcore except some video stills, which I can't use for TropicHeat.com (too low quality).
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Old 2003-09-02, 04:35 AM   #10
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My biggest complaint is registering before I shop. Can you think of any other business model that does this? If you want to verify age then an AVS script will work just fine as some content have found. Just because I register that doesn’t mean that I want your news letter or I want my information sold.

Full size images do NOT use enough bandwidth to matter.

That being said, I don’t buy as much content as the large pay site programs but I have gigs of content from both Paul Markham and Reyko. I think they’re both good sites with easy to find content. Paul’s site can be more difficult because there’s so much stuff being added all the time but in general I find what I’m looking for.

Cirrus, since you asked. I had one major issue with your site and I mentioned it to Shooter who had it resolved in hours which is damn fast. Navigation of your site is better then most and samples are good. Delivery is fast with download although a little combersome when buying more then 20 sets.

Your photography, lighting and models are first rate. Camera angles are usually natural and you’re not over cropping the images. Eventually you may need an open search box for type ins but for now you have things listed just fine.

Purchasing from Reyko is a good experience but 3 Things that I would like to see.

All images in at least 1024 pixels. Why have sizes smaller then that?
I prefer sets of 100+ pictures – go figure.
What’s up with that 2 pixel white border around the edge of every image? Get rid of it PLEASE.

Cirrus, your shop is tops on my list.
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Old 2003-09-02, 05:31 AM   #11
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Thanks for the kind words.
Asking people to register is something we insist on, after looking at the samples we have HERE you can see what we do and the quality.

When you are on the mailing list every time we put up new sets you get to see them. No need to come hunting.

And let's be very honest about the mailing list and the newsletters, THEY MAKE US MONEY. And in a competetive business we need to be sharp and on top of things.

Maybe having it open for all to see would bring in more people, may be it would get a few more to buy. But we see the sales that come from the newsletters, the webmasters who come into the site and drop sets into their baskets for later purchase. The people who come back because it's the right time to buy teens.

I once screwed up and sent a newsletter with nothing but text and the banner, I forgot to add the sets we got $2,000 worth of business off that newsletter. Does that give you an idea what one with pictures makes?

It's about making money and the more money we make the better we can shoot the pictures and serve them to you.
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Old 2003-09-02, 05:42 AM   #12
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I hate regestering to
in most cases I will just go somewhere else

I love buying content
I am worse then a woman in macys
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Old 2003-09-02, 05:44 AM   #13
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Old 2003-09-02, 05:45 AM   #14
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Just bought some content from Paul Markham yesterday and the epassporte option was cool. Gonna buy more too as I saw some nice glamour sets.

Registering sucks. I understand it but it still sucks. How about registering before seeing the actual samples? Non registered people can see 1 thumb of the girl but that's it. I hate registering then finding out all they have is amateur and teen which I don't promote.

All content providers should have search options too. I know almost all of them do but I hate searching every page for a bigtits model.
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Old 2003-09-02, 05:51 AM   #15
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Old 2003-09-02, 06:08 AM   #16
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as both a content customer, and a content provider, this is an interesting thread ... i agree with a lot of the comments about the shopping experience - many sites i have just up and left because the navigation is an absolute clusterfuck. Registering sucks, I agree moby allowing use of an AVS password is good ... but some sort of verification is required ... there is a "Communications Decency Act" which could place those not checking age/verifying that registrant is a webmaster in danger.

"It is a defense to a prosecution .... that a person ... has taken, in good faith, reasonable, effective, and appropriate actions under the circumstances to restrict or prevent access by minors to a communication specified in such subsections, which may involve any appropriate measures to restrict minors from such communications, including any method which is feasible under available technology ..."

47 U.S.C. 223 (amended) subsections A and D under section 502

This is why i require registration ... Very informative thread though to content providers...

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Hey cirrus


ya think I could get a deal on all sets of
hanna
Marlen
Nikol
Monique

all pics and videos
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Paul, I like your news letter, Reyko's and a few others. A lot of content providers I don't use send me news letters and it's a bitch to get off of them. I know, that spam is part of the business but I get 100s of emails every day and most of those are unwanted.

Tommy, I'll be around tonight and tomorrow. The Ukrainian QT and I are getting pictutres of the baby in about an hour lovers|
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Sorry Tommy but I cannot afford to not get those email addresses. But I ALWAYS delete those who want to be and NEVER sell or give them away, even to mates like www.cool-content.com or www.timifoto.com That is a break of trus.

And if this is not enough to show what we do then not a lot we can do. http://www.paulmarkham.com/index2.php

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Good Tommy thanks. Been doing good and keeping very busy.

Keep up with the no smoking, wtg.
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Old 2003-09-02, 09:40 AM   #21
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ya think I could get a deal on all sets of
hanna
Marlen
Nikol
Monique

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Sure, please contact me on icq:35570298 or email cirrus@reyko.com
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Old 2003-09-02, 09:58 AM   #22
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I love buying content
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You are sooo right, Tommy,

my suggestion is simple yet effective: content providers, let your visitors browse your store and site without registration... browse but not buy if you know what I mean.
I am sure you are missing out on a ton of business because of this.. but the WMs all say: if I buy content, then yeah, I will give you all the info you want, but to just look? I bet a lot of WM turn away at the door because of this.
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Ok thanks for the comments

###to GeorgeTH
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· why can't I get a cookie set - instead of having to log in every time (and go searching for my pwd)
Well it's a matter of security, however I will be probably changing it so the password will be required only for downloads

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· your horizontal thumbs are a little small (same width as portrait)
· I would prefer a little larger (non-sepia) initial preview
Do you think the samples should be bigger?

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· specially in your case I would be buying more if I could get tgp sets (of something like 25 pics).
just contact me and we can speak about it icq:35570298

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+ you have a lot of good content
thanks ;-)

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+ a lot of stuff good for fetish (but why would I really buy a complete set of lesbian action if I can't convert lesbian, but use like 15 pics for advertising Foot Fetish - fill this up to 20 for a tgp gallery and bin the remaining 70-80 images?)
read above

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+ your search functions are excellent AND fast!
good to hear

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- some sets I bought from you needed a fair bit of work with color corrections (eg. Anita fucked on stair)
true, however this is very rare

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Registering sucks. I understand it but it still sucks. How about registering before seeing the actual samples? Non registered people can see 1 thumb of the girl but that's it. I hate registering then finding out all they have is amateur and teen which I don't promote.
I can understand this, I do not like it either. However our registration system is instant so there is no waiting for approval or whatever. In addition, you can see samples on our registration page as wellwww.reyko.com/reg.php

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Cirrus, since you asked. I had one major issue with your site and I mentioned it to Shooter who had it resolved in hours which is damn fast. Navigation of your site is better then most and samples are good. Delivery is fast with download although a little combersome when buying more then 20 sets..
I'm already working on a new ftp system ;-)

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Your photography, lighting and models are first rate. Camera angles are usually natural and you’re not over cropping the images. Eventually you may need an open search box for type ins but for now you have things listed just fine.
Search box is on the way too

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Purchasing from Reyko is a good experience but 3 Things that I would like to see.
All images in at least 1024 pixels. Why have sizes smaller then that?
I prefer sets of 100+ pictures – go figure.
What’s up with that 2 pixel white border around the edge of every image? Get rid of it PLEASE.
- all new pictures are at least 1024, just some of our older stuff is smaller
- we prefer to shoot around 70-100 for solo girls sets, I think it gets boring after that
- well the 2 pixel white border is just the way how we mark our photography, if you do not like it please ask for a copy of unmarked pictures, no problem at all

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Cirrus, your shop is tops on my list.
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Old 2003-09-02, 10:02 AM   #24
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Paul's glamour sets are the best, I love them
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Old 2003-09-02, 10:09 AM   #25
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Oops sorry for the multiple posts but the photographer of the site in my sig has a cxontent site also, http://www.redroommedia.com/ and her sets are real unique.

It is her content here in a new gallery of mine
http://www.adigital-fantasy.com/dream4/tgp1.html

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