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			 Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once 
			
			
		
			
				
			
			
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				Advice on submit passes
			 
			I'm looking to get back in the free site/tgp game again. I have been away from the industry for a while. I'd really appreciate some advice on what submit passes (for tgp or linklists) are worth giving a shot right now. Thanks a lot. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		 My biggest referrers are Tommys Bookmarks, Shemp, Pink World, SnakesWorld, PicHunter. You'd have to look at their sites and your gallery niches and the pricing to decide what you want. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 Me fail English? That's unpossible! 
			
			
		
			
				
			
			
								
		
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		 They're good for program owners. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Pink World is a LOT of traffic but yes a lot is useless. 2 sales though and you make your money back. You need to be a full time submitter nowadays to make it worthwhile 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 You also need to be organized enough to track your results so you can adjust what you promote and where you promote.  | 
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			 It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine 
			
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 Tommy has done well for me, his is the only pass I've paid for. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I'd buy a few more for TGPs, Shemp's for sure, but my best sponsor's best ad is an i-frame and that seems to be against most TGP rules ![]() 
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			 Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once 
			
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 Thanks guys, any more tips are welcome as well. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			 You can now put whatever you want in this space :) 
			
			
		
			
				
			
			
								
		
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		 I've never had any luck with submit passes, so I'd say dont waste your money. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 At one time I would build up a reserve of galleries by building and submitting to the smaller TGPs for a few months and then I'd buy a bunch of submit passes and spend the month submitting as many galleries as each one took and some of them took a lot each day. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	At one time I made pretty decent money doing this but at some point I wasn't any more and not making much more than what I was spending on the passes while working my ass off. These days I still keep a few, Shemp, Tommy and a couple others but now I work smatter while burning through less content and not feeling like a hamster running in a wheel trying to out submit everyone else. I build a gallery, submit it and then find other places to generate traffic with this promo piece. Like promoting it on social networks where allowed, maybe make some blog entries with it and also I always combine it with anther TGP gallery and do a round of free site submits with it so now I have four pages of ads with the samples.  | 
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			 Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! 
			
			
		
			
			
								
		
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		 DrBizzaro is another good one to add to the list too. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
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		 I buy paid submits for Tommy's Shemp's and Richards Realm.  I also do a lot like Cleo says, I do TGP, but also free sites, blogs, twitter, stumble upon, etc etc to promote my stuff.  Then 6 months to a year later, re-work and resubmit. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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