U.S. Won't Cede Control of Net Computers

[tickler]

Basically a bit of technical BS about the US doesn't want to turn over the control of the TLD root servers to ICANN.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8B27F180.html

One line that jumped out at me though was "Policy decisions could at a stroke make all Web sites ending in a specific suffix essentially unreachable."

Might want to hold off on grabbing those .XXX domains for awhile.

[eman]

This would be amusing, wouldn't it:
"In a worst-case scenario, countries refusing to accept U.S. control could establish their own separate Domain Name System and thus fracture the Internet into more than one network. That means two users typing the same domain name could reach entirely different Web sites, depending on where they are."

[juggernaut]

I think they are wrong here. DNS dont work that way. Countries would end up breaking their own domain. the domain extention woulld be the determining factor where the box is. With DNS its not possible to have two systems with the same name. You can force the name but then that box wont talk to any others. They are basicly saying any country can place up its own node and call every internet box behind it .com . net or what ever. IF that was able to happen you would need to have permissions to get to any box with in that node. I dont see this happening anytime soon. But I always wanted to see those root servers lol. I wonder how secure those buildings are? I once was told they are in un-disclosed locations.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by juggernaut

I wonder how secure those buildings are? I once was told they are in un-disclosed locations.

Maybe that's the problem right there. Perhaps they forgot where they put them and thats why the won't give 'em up.

[Tommy]

I wonder if this whole thing has anything to do with 2257

there was a comment the DOJ made about not having complete control of the internet YET

and theres this in this mornings news
think your safe from 2257 outside the us you might be wrong

an investigation that covers 11 countries including Canada and cities like Edmonton, the U.S. Justice Department announced Thursday a crackdown on Internet piracy organizations responsible for stealing copies of the latest Star Wars film and other movies, games and software programs worth at least $50 million US.
FBI agents and investigators in the other countries conducted 90 searches starting Wednesday, arresting four people, seizing hundreds of computers and shutting down at least eight major online distribution servers for pirated works.

The Justice Department “is striking at the top of the copyright piracy supply chain — a distribution chain that provides the vast majority of illegal digital content now available online,” Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said.

Called Operation Site Down, the crackdown involved undercover FBI operations run out of Chicago, San Francisco and Charlotte, N.C., and involved help from authorities in Canada, Australia, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Israel, the Netherlands, Portugal and the United Kingdom.

The RCMP conducted searches and seizures in British Columbia, Alberta, Ontario and Quebec.

The raids were co-ordinated by an RCMP Alberta team, working with RCMP members and with partners across the Canada.

Edmonton RCMP Cpl. Al Fraser said police did not target the small guy.

“I don’t think this is one person who goes out to find one copy of Microsoft Office and places it on their computer,” he said. “This is much larger scale, whereby a person may be in possession of hacker codes or something of that nature.”

Searches were conducted in Montreal, Kingston, Milton, Ont., Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver and Victoria. The investigation is continuing. “The illegal distribution of software and other intellectual property causes financial loss to legitimate businesses, governments and taxpayers in Canada and around the world. These losses are estimated to be in the billions of dollars,” said Raf Souccar, assistant commissioner of RCMP Federal and International Operations.

Those arrested in the United States were Chirayu Patel, 23, of Fremont, Calif.; David Fish, 24, of Watertown, Conn.; Nate Lovell, 22, of Boulder, Colo.; and William Veyna, 34, of Chatworth, Calif. The four were charged with violating federal copyright protection laws. All are alleged to be members of “warez” groups, a kind of underground Internet co-op that is set up to trade in copyrighted materials.

Warez (pronounced “wares”) groups are extraordinarily difficult to infiltrate because users talk only in encrypted chat rooms, their computer servers require passwords and many are located overseas.

The FBI set up its own servers and lured warez members to store pirated material on them, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in San Francisco.

The investigations targeted “release groups,” the original sources of pirated works that can be distributed worldwide in hours. Among the warez groups targeted are RiSCISO, Myth, TDA, LND, Goodfellaz, Hoodlum, Vengeance, Centropy, Wasted Time, Paranoid, Corrupt, Gamerz, AdmitONE, Hellbound, KGS, BBX, KHG, NOX, NFR, CDZ, TUN and BHP.

Those groups are believed responsible for stealing and distributing copyrighted works, including Star Wars: Episode III — Revenge of the Sith, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Autodesk’s Autocad 2006 and Adobe’s Photoshop software.

The bootlegged software often is made available to popular file-sharing networks, where it can be easily downloaded for free, said Michael DuBose, a Justice lawyer who prosecutes cyber crimes. But mass producers of pirated materials in Asia and elsewhere also use warez groups as suppliers, DuBose said.

Studies of Internet piracy have estimated losses to the movie industry alone at $3.5 billion to $5.4 billion annually.

President George W. Bush signed a new law last month setting tough penalties of up to 10 years in prison for anyone caught distributing a movie or song before its commercial release.

[MadMax]

I was wrong when I thought WWIII would be started between us and the someone in the Middle East. I have recently revised that prediction to be that everyone else in the world will come after the U.S.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by MadMax

I have recently revised that prediction to be that everyone else in the world will come after the U.S.

Am I wrong to think that that would be a good thing?

[juggernaut]

Originally Posted by Tommy

an investigation that covers 11 countries including Canada and cities like Edmonton, the U.S. Justice Department announced Thursday a crackdown on Internet piracy organizations responsible for stealing copies of the latest Star Wars film and other movies, games and software programs worth at least $50 million US.
FBI agents and investigators in the other countries conducted 90 searches starting Wednesday, arresting four people, seizing hundreds of computers and shutting down at least eight major online distribution servers for pirated works.

“I don’t think this is one person who goes out to find one copy of Microsoft Office and places it on their computer,” he said.

Translation. Fuck Microsoft they can loose one copy of a $500 software and besides we can't stop them anyway they have us by the balls with 99% of government OS, so we wont look to hard to help them. But we will help Mr. Star Wars because evertime he looses a buck we lose the taxes from it. With MS we have to review their tax records every year, with Mr. Star Wars we only have to review those movie tax records every 10, much easier on our employees. lol

[Ramster]

Tommy
Piracy is against the law in Canada so I can understand the support the RCMP and the government gave the FBI. But the 2257 law breaks the Privacy laws of Canada so I doubt they'll get any support for that.

[cd34]

Originally Posted by juggernaut

But I always wanted to see those root servers lol. I wonder how secure those buildings are? I once was told they are in un-disclosed locations.

I can get within 30 feet of a set of them -- but, its on the other side of two walls and a bunch of security. Even the security I go through only gets me to the point where I would need to go through 2 more doors, one right next to a guards desk and then a palm print reader and a special keylock. When I toured the building, I was able to get within 15' or so of the two sets but they were behind a glass wall and quite a few cameras. Even if you could get to them quick enough to avoid the guards, you'd have to get into two separate cabinets that are perhaps 20' apart. Somehow, I think the odds would be against you doing anything that would affect service before getting restrained.

[Trev]

Originally Posted by cd34

Somehow, I think the odds would be against you doing anything that would affect service before getting restrained.

restrained? |ghost|

[ArtWilliams]

Originally Posted by Ramster

Tommy
Piracy is against the law in Canada so I can understand the support the RCMP and the government gave the FBI. But the 2257 law breaks the Privacy laws of Canada so I doubt they'll get any support for that.

Yeah, I was going to make a comment like that. Commit a crime in Canada that is also a crime in the U.S. (copyright, murder, theft, what have you) and authorities of both countries will work together. I can't see Canada helping the US on 2257 since that law actually breaks Canadian laws.

---art