How much should I submit?

ClickBuster · 2004-12-13, 08:30 PM

Can you tell me what is know to be a good number of LL to submit to? And also, how much uniques per day will you expect from such submission?

Also can somebody give me an example of a MAX, MIN and AVARAGE ratio from Free site traffic => paysite (that means, from the uniques that came to your site, how many continued to the paysite tour)?

I'm really appreciating any statistics, cuz I'm very frustrated from thinking how bad am I doing.

Thanks

amadman · 2004-12-13, 08:49 PM

There seems to be two schools on who how many to submit to. One is to submit to everybody you can with doorways. And the other is to submit to the best ones on one page.

Everything is pretty much trial and error in the beginning. Just need to keep trying and it will work out in time.

Mandimorgan · 2004-12-13, 08:58 PM

doorway meaning? A second index page?

DangerDave · 2004-12-13, 09:01 PM

"doorway" is actually an incorrect term..

'mirror' or 'mirrored entrance' would be more accurate.. and yes Mandy that means a 2nd "index-type" page

DD

Greenguy · 2004-12-13, 09:03 PM

Mandimorgan - we are going to have to hold your hand, aren't we

I haven;t used this practice in a long time, but that's not to say it's not still done on a daily basis. Let's say you want to submit your free site to 60 Link Lists. Link Lists do not want to see a warning page with 60 recips on it, so you might build 5 warning pages with 12 recips on each & use those as the URL's you submit to the link lists.

There's a lot of catches - some Link Lists only want to list index.html pages, so naming them warning.html & submitting might get you declined. Some Link Lists do not like seeing their recip on index057.html, so using numbers is not a good idea in most cases.

I can go on & on, but I think that will get you pointed in the right direction

ClickBuster · 2004-12-13, 09:08 PM

Great guys, but can somebody please answer my qustion?

Greenguy · 2004-12-13, 09:12 PM

Oops - sorry about that

I only submit to 12-16 Link Lists when I build a Free Site - I was never into the making of doorway or mirror pages.

As far as how much traffic, that's kinda hard to nail down - you have to take into account the Link List you submitted to, the category that you got listed on & if it's a popular one or not on their link list. I rarely look to see how much traffic comes in after it's listed (I just make sure it got listed & if not, find out how to correct it)

And I have no data on how many visitors actually click on banners, but I think there are a few threads on here where people did their own tests & posted the results.

amadman · 2004-12-13, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
"doorway" is actually an incorrect term..

'mirror' or 'mirrored entrance' would be more accurate.. and yes Mandy that means a 2nd "index-type" page

DD

Ooops |rasta|

Yup... that is what I ment.

Mandimorgan · 2004-12-13, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
Mandimorgan - we are going to have to hold your hand, aren't we

I haven;t used this practice in a long time, but that's not to say it's not still done on a daily basis. Let's say you want to submit your free site to 60 Link Lists. Link Lists do not want to see a warning page with 60 recips on it, so you might build 5 warning pages with 12 recips on each & use those as the URL's you submit to the link lists.

There's a lot of catches - some Link Lists only want to list index.html pages, so naming them warning.html & submitting might get you declined. Some Link Lists do not like seeing their recip on index057.html, so using numbers is not a good idea in most cases.

I can go on & on, but I think that will get you pointed in the right direction

HaHa. I was pretty sure I knew what he was talking about but I wanted to make sure. There are so many terms you guys take for granted as everyone knowing.

I'm a learn by doing kinda person rather than reading. Lots of good info here though, don't mind me.

Greenguy · 2004-12-13, 09:17 PM

Mandimorgan - we are here to help

swedguy · 2004-12-13, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Also can somebody give me an example of a MAX, MIN and AVARAGE ratio from Free site traffic => paysite

Min: 1%
Max: Best I've had is 24%
Average: 12-15%

ClickBuster · 2004-12-13, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
Min: 1%
Max: Best I've had is 24%
Average: 12-15%

Ah, thanks so much for that reply. I'm coding everything myself and I have build for a few hours both tracking system and stats and since I'm so new I can't stop checking how the numbers are floating and I really get frustrated, thinking that everything is screwed and not working properly (I mean the whole create, post, submit strategy of mine).

Thanks again!

Halfdeck · 2004-12-14, 06:15 AM

My first site I submitted to about 8 LL's and got maybe 50 clicks to sponsors. My second site I submitted to 50+ LL's, and got about 300 clicks to sponsors. My third, I submitted to 150+ LL's and got about 2000 clicks to sponsors. I haven't submitted to a few major LL's yet that require 30+ pics (like Persian Kitty) or Danger Dave's (help, can't figure out how to register :p).

Problem for me is submitting to a bunch of LL's takes hours (I don't use static recip tables). I guess it's better to just focus on building and submitting at least 1 site a day, and then submit to as many LL's as you have time for.

Mateusz · 2004-12-20, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halfdeck
Problem for me is submitting to a bunch of LL's takes hours (I don't use static recip tables). I guess it's better to just focus on building and submitting at least 1 site a day, and then submit to as many LL's as you have time for.

Agree.
I used to submit to 120+ LL at the beggining but now I'm down to 24 - I prefer to spend more time building a site than submit to many LL. I have learned a lot this way and get much more signups now. I also started to count signup/free site instead signup/clicks. I belive it's much more reliable as many sponsors count clicks other way - my goal is to get 1 SU per free site and I'm pretty close to this goal already. Unfortunetaly there are sites that give me 3 SU and the ones that give 0..

Presmar · 2004-12-31, 07:29 PM

Thanks for checking it out for me. I really appreaciate the advice, I'm gonna leave it as it is and move on to my next (smaller) one.

2004-12-13, 08:30 PM	#1
ClickBuster I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 476	How much should I submit? Can you tell me what is know to be a good number of LL to submit to? And also, how much uniques per day will you expect from such submission? Also can somebody give me an example of a MAX, MIN and AVARAGE ratio from Free site traffic => paysite (that means, from the uniques that came to your site, how many continued to the paysite tour)? I'm really appreciating any statistics, cuz I'm very frustrated from thinking how bad am I doing. Thanks __________________ The tendency is to push it as far as you can -- Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas

2004-12-13, 09:01 PM	#4
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2004-12-13, 09:03 PM	#5
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Mandimorgan - we are going to have to hold your hand, aren't we I haven;t used this practice in a long time, but that's not to say it's not still done on a daily basis. Let's say you want to submit your free site to 60 Link Lists. Link Lists do not want to see a warning page with 60 recips on it, so you might build 5 warning pages with 12 recips on each & use those as the URL's you submit to the link lists. There's a lot of catches - some Link Lists only want to list index.html pages, so naming them warning.html & submitting might get you declined. Some Link Lists do not like seeing their recip on index057.html, so using numbers is not a good idea in most cases. I can go on & on, but I think that will get you pointed in the right direction __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-12-13, 09:08 PM	#6
ClickBuster I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 476	Great guys, but can somebody please answer my qustion? __________________ The tendency is to push it as far as you can -- Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas

2004-12-13, 09:12 PM	#7
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Oops - sorry about that I only submit to 12-16 Link Lists when I build a Free Site - I was never into the making of doorway or mirror pages. As far as how much traffic, that's kinda hard to nail down - you have to take into account the Link List you submitted to, the category that you got listed on & if it's a popular one or not on their link list. I rarely look to see how much traffic comes in after it's listed (I just make sure it got listed & if not, find out how to correct it) And I have no data on how many visitors actually click on banners, but I think there are a few threads on here where people did their own tests & posted the results. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-12-13, 08:49 PM	#2
amadman I've been mad for fucking years, absolutely years, been over the edge for yonks.... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: padded room Posts: 861	There seems to be two schools on who how many to submit to. One is to submit to everybody you can with doorways. And the other is to submit to the best ones on one page. Everything is pretty much trial and error in the beginning. Just need to keep trying and it will work out in time.

2004-12-13, 08:58 PM	#3
Mandimorgan Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 27	doorway meaning? A second index page?

2004-12-13, 09:17 PM	#10
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Mandimorgan - we are here to help __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-12-14, 06:15 AM	#13
Halfdeck You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 985	My first site I submitted to about 8 LL's and got maybe 50 clicks to sponsors. My second site I submitted to 50+ LL's, and got about 300 clicks to sponsors. My third, I submitted to 150+ LL's and got about 2000 clicks to sponsors. I haven't submitted to a few major LL's yet that require 30+ pics (like Persian Kitty) or Danger Dave's (help, can't figure out how to register :p). Problem for me is submitting to a bunch of LL's takes hours (I don't use static recip tables). I guess it's better to just focus on building and submitting at least 1 site a day, and then submit to as many LL's as you have time for. Last edited by Halfdeck; 2004-12-14 at 06:17 AM..

2004-12-31, 07:29 PM	#15
Presmar My wife is not a doobie to be passed around! On our wedding day I promised to bogart her for life! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 272	Thanks for checking it out for me. I really appreaciate the advice, I'm gonna leave it as it is and move on to my next (smaller) one.