frustration with ftp setup - Page 2

Useless · 2006-03-19, 08:39 PM

Well, CuteHTML is an HTML editor, not a wysiwyg thingy. It's all raw code. But Cute color codes the tags and somewhat intuitively offers up up tag options as you work. In other words, if you type table, then hit space, a little box pops up and you can choose select width, height, class, etc if you'd like. It's like notepad, but with some frills. The color coding can be very helpful when scanning the code for problems. If you don't know any HTML, then it probably wouldn't help you. If you know a little, it will help you learn a lot more.

For me, it's damn near indispensable at this point. As far as switching to another - I don't know why I would.

Toby · 2006-03-19, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfn

It's actually faster once you learn it

It really comes down to what you're used to using.

Even though I use Dreamweaver in WYSIWYG design view for the "bulldozer" work, I spend about 70% of my time in code view. Best of both worlds. Although I first learned HTML, and programming too, years ago doing it all by hand.

MrYum · 2006-03-19, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by karomesis

just out of curiosity, how many of you guys make from scratch your own freesites,galleries, LL, ect? I am almost at the point where I just order the damn custom templates from someone and start putting the pics/movies in for submissions. I have sales goals for the end of this year and summer of 07 that I need to meet, 6 and 20 sales a day respectively.Every day that goes by without sites to submit is another day lost

I'm another dinosaur that does it all with my own two hands. Did hire an outsourcer for a large 'grunt work' kinda project several months ago...turned into a complete and utter fiasco. Long story...short version is I ended up having to redo all the work the outsourcer did anyway.

And yep, it's all hand coded. I do use Notetab...very handy...kinda like notepad on steroids

You'll find as you go along...things get faster to do. One of the very cool things about Notetab is the ability to save snippets...that can be reused later...huge time saver

karomesis · 2006-03-19, 11:31 PM

damn you dinosaurs and your hand coding, what do you think this is the cambrian explosion?

I do need to learn more code like you guys, is there any book or author you can personally reccomend?

Chop Smith · 2006-03-19, 11:47 PM

Bill Gates is the best friend of my brother's wife first cousin's daddy so I always try to use his products - Back Page for web pages. I want to learn coding one day and will probably ask a useless cocksucker to teach me.

MrYum · 2006-03-20, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chop Smith

Bill Gates is the best friend of my brother's wife first cousin's daddy so I always try to use his products - Back Page for web pages. I want to learn coding one day and will probably ask a useless cocksucker to teach me.

Don't really have any recommendations for books Karomesis. I have seen a few online tutorials, but most of them seemed pretty weak. I started out using an older version of DW, and quickly realized how much superfluous code it was inserting into pages. So bit the bullet and opened notepad...then later heard about Notetab.

Hand coding really isn't difficult at all...once you get the basics down

I found one of the most useful tools that helped me learn was when I saw something I liked...I'd view source and see how they did it. Of course, never directly copying someone else's work...but analyzing the code itself to ascertain how they'd created the effect that caught my attention. That's a great way to lern yerself some o them thar html skilz

Surfn · 2006-03-20, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MrYum

...I'd view source and see how they did it. Of course, never directly copying someone else's work...but analyzing the code itself to ascertain how they'd created the effect that caught my attention. That's a great way to lern yerself some o them thar html skilz

That's pretty much what I did when I first started. I learned the basics then anything new I came across I learned how to use that by viewing source and then playing with it until I got it where I liked it.

Of course the learning curve wasn't steep at all in the stone age

Kinky · 2006-03-20, 03:33 AM

if somebody put a gun to my head and said "hand code me a page that just says HELLO" I would be a dead man

I actually built my very first pages/sites with a proggy called "WebDummy" and man they were sweet lemme tell you, I couldn't even make a thumbnail but that scrolling text effect really got me excited

so have you figured out all of your FTP woes or are you still having fits??

Lemmy · 2006-03-20, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by karomesis

just out of curiosity, how many of you guys make from scratch your own freesites,galleries, LL, ect? I am almost at the point where I just order the damn custom templates from someone and start putting the pics/movies in for submissions. I have sales goals for the end of this year and summer of 07 that I need to meet, 6 and 20 sales a day respectively.Every day that goes by without sites to submit is another day lost

With goals like that I suggest you invest in the proper tools to reach them. Dreamweaver, Photoshop and Cute FTP is what I use. Sure you can build stunning websites with Notepad and freeware image editing programs, but it will take you much longer. And also get some good reference books; the Dreamweaver Bible, the Photoshop Bible and an HTML reference.

karomesis · 2006-03-20, 01:31 PM

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so have you figured out all of your FTP woes or are you still having fits??

It WILL be resolved this week, I have a freind who is a program engineer and he's going to walk through a tutorial with me.

Lemmy, what are your thoughts on NVU and GIMP? They are pretty easy to use for me, and do almost as much as dreamweaver and photoshop. Do you think it is sufficeint for making and submitting freesites?

Lemmy · 2006-03-20, 11:12 PM

I'm not familiar with either, but if they work for you and get the job done that's all that matters.

Iceberg · 2006-03-22, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfn

It's actually faster once you learn it

I agree with Surfn..alot easier hand coding. Best part about this is when you have a problem you can find it easier

MrYum · 2006-03-22, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceberg

I agree with Surfn..alot easier hand coding. Best part about this is when you have a problem you can find it easier

Yanno...that's an excellent point

When someone asks about using an editor vs. hand coding, I don't usually even think about the huge advantage of knowing html when troubleshooting.

Knowing html also almost vital when reviewing sites. Being able to spot sneaky things quickly when viewing source code is another big benefit to being comfortable with hand coding

NightSurfer · 2006-03-23, 05:49 PM

Newbie first post.

I like Internet Explorer built in ftp.
Simply write ftp://user:pass@ftphost and go.
Drag and drop, very simple.

I have also done som efforts in Gimp and I like this software a lot (probably because it's free

). The only problem was that I think doing my own content is to much time consuming.

u-Bob · 2006-03-26, 03:05 PM

FTP: FlashFXP all the way.
Building Pages: Photoshop + Editpad.

2006-03-19, 08:39 PM	#26
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	Well, CuteHTML is an HTML editor, not a wysiwyg thingy. It's all raw code. But Cute color codes the tags and somewhat intuitively offers up up tag options as you work. In other words, if you type table, then hit space, a little box pops up and you can choose select width, height, class, etc if you'd like. It's like notepad, but with some frills. The color coding can be very helpful when scanning the code for problems. If you don't know any HTML, then it probably wouldn't help you. If you know a little, it will help you learn a lot more. For me, it's damn near indispensable at this point. As far as switching to another - I don't know why I would. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2006-03-19, 11:47 PM	#30
Chop Smith Eighteen 'til I Die Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,168	Bill Gates is the best friend of my brother's wife first cousin's daddy so I always try to use his products - Back Page for web pages. I want to learn coding one day and will probably ask a useless cocksucker to teach me. __________________

2006-03-20, 03:33 AM	#33
Kinky HEY NOW! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in the Matrix Glitching on an Endless Loop. Loop. Loop. Loop. Loo Posts: 1,218	if somebody put a gun to my head and said "hand code me a page that just says HELLO" I would be a dead man I actually built my very first pages/sites with a proggy called "WebDummy" and man they were sweet lemme tell you, I couldn't even make a thumbnail but that scrolling text effect really got me excited so have you figured out all of your FTP woes or are you still having fits?? __________________ don't mind me im nothing but nonsense <3 Last edited by Kinky; 2006-03-20 at 03:36 AM.. Reason: I am a Dummy

2006-03-20, 11:12 PM	#36
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	I'm not familiar with either, but if they work for you and get the job done that's all that matters. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2006-03-26, 03:05 PM	#40
u-Bob Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 118	FTP: FlashFXP all the way. Building Pages: Photoshop + Editpad. __________________ Payoneer Sponsors.

2006-03-19, 11:31 PM	#29
karomesis Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: pepperell,Massachusetts. Posts: 264	damn you dinosaurs and your hand coding, what do you think this is the cambrian explosion? I do need to learn more code like you guys, is there any book or author you can personally reccomend?

2006-03-23, 05:49 PM	#39
NightSurfer Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17	Newbie first post. I like Internet Explorer built in ftp. Simply write ftp://user:pass@ftphost and go. Drag and drop, very simple. I have also done som efforts in Gimp and I like this software a lot (probably because it's free ). The only problem was that I think doing my own content is to much time consuming.