Senate Proposes Prison for Those Failing to Label Adult Sites - Page 2

virgohippy · 2006-06-18, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy

I have been adding labels to everything I build and everytime I touch something old

I was thinking

maybe instead of putting labels in the head i should add a server side includes tag

this way if the labels change or i ever want to add more labels I could change the one file instead of changing hundreds or thousands of pages

Not a bad idea. Increases server load, but definitely more efficient, all things considered.

Time to start fiddling.

PersignupChuck · 2006-06-18, 05:48 PM

These stories always come up and incite fear and panic in the webmaster community. (as well they should)
I always try to make my point on this issue, it's not about "protecting children." It's about controlling the flow of information. They used to make the same claims about policing underground papers and magazines, music, movies, etc... now it is the internet.
The media incites fear in parents about their children being the prey of the adult community online. They always gloss over simple items, like "why did this child have a computer alone in their bedroom with no blocking software if they can't be responsible with it?" I also rarely see any information relating child predator rates that don't use the internet vs. those that do use the internet. I have seen no evidence that any aspect of the internet is more of a danger to children then child predators that predate the internet.

It's about control and power. For one, the internet is a free flow of information. Because it is global, national laws can't prohibit the freedom of information on the internet. In the past, this vast amount of information and communication was completely controlled. Secondly, the adult community makes so much money - most of it is new money. The class system in the United States greatly frowns upon new money. Even if they can't stop the "new money" they enact these propaganda machines that tear away at the power and prestige of these positions. If something is borderline illegal, you can net millions of dollars and still have less power and prestige then a garbage man or a school teacher.

Don't believe the hype... it's about protecting children as much as NAFTA is about protecting children. If you have a cause and cite it in the name of "protecting children" then anyone who opposes you automatically appears to want to prey on children.
I've had to explain ad nauseum to people that the adult internet does not WANT children involved in it... from an economic stand, it's not feasiible. Children have no credit, no bank accounts, or purchasing power - and they can't be held to a contract. No logical business person in the adult industry wants anything to do with minors. It's a fallacy used to incite fear and panic.

plateman · 2006-06-18, 07:46 PM

its the spammers and scammers that use main stream and disney terms in there urls and pages to weight there pages to be more effective, problem is most of these laws dont apply to the over seas crooks in this biz.... problem is the goverments that house those crooks wont do anything to go after them in there countries....

you could lock up all of the american webmasters that do these bad things and you still wont get rid of it, there has to be a gobal task force to go after those people all over the world and that will never happen....

everyone knows there are major problems on the internet and its a sad thing our laymakers grasp at straws to try and fix it when really they dont know what is going on...

Grinch · 2006-06-18, 10:05 PM

I'm a newbie at all this, so maybe I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground, but it strikes me that none of these dipshit lawmakers have the faintest clue about the internet anyway. I was taught (by my sponsor) to use 'adult' terms in the meta-tags so the damn things will show up in the search engines. I can't be the only one who uses 'pussy' on every gallery.
Sounds like 'Big Brother' is wasting our money again, and too dumb to know the difference.

Useless · 2006-06-18, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by susanna

What is stupid is that children are looking at the pictures and not the "warning" text. They should require that the landing pages have no hardcore. If a child clicks thru to the main page, they are old enough to be making that choice...and old enough that the parents should be watching.

What is your definition of a "landing page"? All of my pages are landing pages when it comes to search engines. Should I remove all of the hardcore content from every single page? Filter tagging is simple - and if keeps kids off of my pages, I'm all for it.

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Originally Posted by Grinch

Sounds like 'Big Brother' is wasting our money again, and too dumb to know the difference.

Meanwhile, you're using a character from a popular children's book as your name on an adult webmaster board. This is EXACTLY what big brother is looking for; the use of terms that could possibly draw child surfers. The type of meta tag under discussion is the kind you would get here at http://www.icra.org/ Watch out - those cocksuckers have pop-ups on their site now.

2006-06-18, 07:46 PM	#28
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	its the spammers and scammers that use main stream and disney terms in there urls and pages to weight there pages to be more effective, problem is most of these laws dont apply to the over seas crooks in this biz.... problem is the goverments that house those crooks wont do anything to go after them in there countries.... you could lock up all of the american webmasters that do these bad things and you still wont get rid of it, there has to be a gobal task force to go after those people all over the world and that will never happen.... everyone knows there are major problems on the internet and its a sad thing our laymakers grasp at straws to try and fix it when really they dont know what is going on... __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here

2006-06-18, 05:48 PM	#27
PersignupChuck Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4	These stories always come up and incite fear and panic in the webmaster community. (as well they should) I always try to make my point on this issue, it's not about "protecting children." It's about controlling the flow of information. They used to make the same claims about policing underground papers and magazines, music, movies, etc... now it is the internet. The media incites fear in parents about their children being the prey of the adult community online. They always gloss over simple items, like "why did this child have a computer alone in their bedroom with no blocking software if they can't be responsible with it?" I also rarely see any information relating child predator rates that don't use the internet vs. those that do use the internet. I have seen no evidence that any aspect of the internet is more of a danger to children then child predators that predate the internet. It's about control and power. For one, the internet is a free flow of information. Because it is global, national laws can't prohibit the freedom of information on the internet. In the past, this vast amount of information and communication was completely controlled. Secondly, the adult community makes so much money - most of it is new money. The class system in the United States greatly frowns upon new money. Even if they can't stop the "new money" they enact these propaganda machines that tear away at the power and prestige of these positions. If something is borderline illegal, you can net millions of dollars and still have less power and prestige then a garbage man or a school teacher. Don't believe the hype... it's about protecting children as much as NAFTA is about protecting children. If you have a cause and cite it in the name of "protecting children" then anyone who opposes you automatically appears to want to prey on children. I've had to explain ad nauseum to people that the adult internet does not WANT children involved in it... from an economic stand, it's not feasiible. Children have no credit, no bank accounts, or purchasing power - and they can't be held to a contract. No logical business person in the adult industry wants anything to do with minors. It's a fallacy used to incite fear and panic.

2006-06-18, 10:05 PM	#29
Grinch Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 27	I'm a newbie at all this, so maybe I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground, but it strikes me that none of these dipshit lawmakers have the faintest clue about the internet anyway. I was taught (by my sponsor) to use 'adult' terms in the meta-tags so the damn things will show up in the search engines. I can't be the only one who uses 'pussy' on every gallery. Sounds like 'Big Brother' is wasting our money again, and too dumb to know the difference.