Help I'm ethnically challenged

Cleo · 2004-04-09, 08:42 PM

Some months ago I ended up with some Asian content so I started doing what anybody in this business does and started promoting Asian porn. I was surprised that it converts pretty decent so I've been doing more Asian stuff.

Problem is I see categories of for Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc., but I can't tell the difference what is what when I look at the content so I'm stuck just picking the safe choice of Asian. Actually I had the same problem when I lived in San Francisco and learned just to stick with using Asian so as not to upset or insult anyone.

Anyway how do others handle picking the correct sub category?

Greenguy · 2004-04-09, 09:01 PM

I haven't made too many Asian sites/galleries, but each time I did the places I submitted to had the generic "Asian" category.

My guess from looking at a few Asian paysites is that a safe bet would be Japanese.

Cleo · 2004-04-09, 09:14 PM

When I lived in San Francisco I had a lot of Asian friends and learned real fast that referring to someone who was Chinese as Japanese or the other way around was like real insulting to them. I do know that other Asians can tell the difference when looking at the models.

Actually I have no idea who has been buying these memberships but I would guess it is white men with an Asian fetish and not other Asians so it wouldn't make any difference, but still…

Maybe I should just go back to doing tranny porn at least that was easier.

Alphawolf · 2004-04-09, 11:27 PM

No. There's no definitive way to tell. Not even for other Asians.

They may be able to tell from body language, etc...but not from pictures.

There's also some difference in Northern/Southern Asian countries as far as general looks...lighter/darker skin.

But it would be like a person said they could tell the difference between girls from Germany, Denmark and Sweden.

There is a split on usenet for girls from the Philippines and India....that's about it.

I'm an Asianphile, btw.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference...ap/big/17.html

There is just no mystical exact difference between a Japanese girl and a Chinese girl. Neither would admit it, but that's just the way it goes.

Oh, and yeah I think there are some 'white guys' though small in number can never get enough Asian content.

Due to history various Asian people will not like other asian people. ya know- wars and stuff.

My fiancee' says that many Thai's do not recognize her as a Thai, but some other Asian country. But she is indeed 100% Thai. <shrug>

Koreans are discriminated against in Japan if not outright, then in more subtle ways.

Hmm. Funny story as an aside:

In Japan I was in some club and it has a membership newsletter that is mailed out with everyone's contact info.

I get a call on my cell from a girl who just liked my name. <shrug> We met at a cafe near my place. I brought some travel photos as an ice breaker and we spoke about travelling.

I told her the only place I had no desire to go to was Korea.

Well, ya guessed it- she was Korean. Ooops.

Surfn · 2004-04-09, 11:35 PM

Having lived in the far east and Hawaii it's pretty easy for me to tell the difference between what are commonly called "Asians" here.

Alphawolf · 2004-04-10, 12:08 AM

Surfn,

So if there was a line up of models with no ethnic dress or clues to speak of...just naked models in a line-up you'd be able to tell Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Laotian, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai, Singaporian (?), and Malaysian apart?

Surfn · 2004-04-10, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alphawolf
Surfn,

So if there was a line up of models with no ethnic dress or clues to speak of...just naked models in a line-up you'd be able to tell Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Laotian, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai, Singaporian (?), and Malaysian apart?

Exactly! They have different facial bone structure, different eye shapes, different skin tones. It has nothing to do with dress or speach. Plus they are different heights.

Not knowing the difference between Asian peoples is the same as them saying all white people look the same.

venturi · 2004-04-10, 02:40 AM

I have to agree with Surfin on this. I'm pretty much as whitebread Scotish/American as they come but there are as many different nuances to each Asian and South Pacific brand of people as their are southern dialects in the US.

I lived in Japan (ok, it was Okinawa - Disney for the Japanese) for a year and was amazed at how diverse the people are there. Okinawa is NOT a Japanese island at it's root. It's Polonesian (sp?). Yes, for many hundreds of years the Japanese and Chinese invaded this 68mile long island and tortured and killed the inhabitants but the true Okinawans are not of "Asian" decent - they are closer to being the brothers and sisters of the Phillipinos.

Now, Korean vs Vietnamese vs Japanese vs Chinese vs Thai vs Whatever.... There is a stricking physical difference between these people and their cultures. Can I pinpoint each one all the time? No, but I do see the differences. The eyes, the cheeks, the mouth, the nose - there are distinct nuances that differentiate each and every one of us. Anyone that lumps people into a given stereotype just isn't looking.

And that's my two cents.

RawAlex · 2004-04-10, 02:43 AM

Cleo, it gets worse when you come to see that there are at least 3 chinese types - mainland, honk kong, and singapour.

drop me an email, I have a good sample page for you if you need it. About 25 models all identified.

Alex

venturi · 2004-04-10, 03:01 AM

Good point RA! I didn't even consider the various dialects (is that the right term?) of the chinese people. Oh my, we're on the road to a full tutorial ain't we?!

finnbear · 2004-04-10, 06:20 AM

I can tell when models are japanese. They are those who are tied up or has Donald Duck suit.

Seriously, it's hard to tell from picture, but in real life I think I can tell if woman is Thai. We have spent there 6 weeks, and I never forget the way they speak. Must be because they were speaking all the time...no silence moment in Thailand.

Pornopat · 2004-04-10, 07:26 AM

I have to agree with Surfn.
We tend to look for western feautures though. We tend to recognice people and cluster them by things as haircolor, eyecolor, lenght, bodycolor.
When you look for this features you see only resemblences or very small differences. So you have to look for other features like cheekbones, bodybuild,position of the eyes, teeth, noseconfiguration. I can not tell them all apart cause there are many countries there but I think I have a good shot at telling if a girl is a Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian or Korean...

Browse through the catagories and you will spot things when looking for other bodyfeatures...

Greenguy · 2004-04-10, 07:55 AM

I can understand why they'd be upset - if someone called me a Canadian I'd probably beat the shit out of them

Cleo · 2004-04-10, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Surfn
Exactly! They have different facial bone structure, different eye shapes, different skin tones.

Yeah this is what I was told all the time when I lived in San Francisco, but I was never able to tell the difference. Mostly I was told to look at the shape of the eyes with one being more rounded then the other.

I guess it is the same with most races. I can what flavor of Spanish someone is most of the time, but I'm part Spanish and grew up with Spanish people. I don't think a lot of white folks could tell the difference between say Columbine and Cuban, but I usually can.

We are all going to end up the color of mocha anyway. LOL

SirMoby · 2004-04-10, 09:13 AM

There are very physical differences in the people in Asia because the countries aren't huge melting pots like the US. The difference are easy to spot once you get the hang of it even though I'm only familiar with a few countries. Start with picking the Japanese models. They're the easiest to spot becasue they're some of the most unique people in the entire world. Afterall, they're an island nation that was never invaded by another country and hence no outside physical influences.

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Actually I have no idea who has been buying these memberships but I would guess it is white men with an Asian fetish and not other Asians so it wouldn't make any difference, but still…

I spent some time in Asia and it seemed that most of the Asian men wanted pictures of the tall blonde barbie dolls with painted faces, silicone boobs and starched hair. Remember the Japanese took the idea of a car and spent decades trying to make it better and cheaper. I think they seem to appreciate the effort when it goes into babes.

Cleo · 2004-04-10, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by SirMoby
I spent some time in Asia and it seemed that most of the Asian men wanted pictures of the tall blonde barbie dolls with painted faces, silicone boobs and starched hair. Remember the Japanese took the idea of a car and spent decades trying to make it better and cheaper. I think they seem to appreciate the effort when it goes into babes.

Coming soon to a whore house near you. New improved low maintenance blonde white girl imports. Me fuck you long time…

T Pat · 2004-04-10, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Cleo
Coming soon to a whore house near you. New improved low maintenance blonde white girl imports. Me fuck you long time…

The blonde haired girls in the Tijuana Brothels love it when asians come to visit.
I have seen them come in groups of up to twenty and they go straight for the girls with dyed blonde hair cut a deal and there headed up the stairs, No getting to know each other, or shopping around for a better deal or a better looking girl.
Just Wam Bam Thank You Mam

Alphawolf · 2004-04-10, 12:26 PM

Hmm. I'm skeptical of all you's.

What I was stating is that I've seen enough variation within the same country that it would be tough to tell which country they are from.

You folks would be able to peg my wife to be as 100% Thai straight away:

http://www.silkyerotica.com/tmp/nok.jpg ?

Here's my friends wife who is also 100% Thai:

http://www.silkyerotica.com/tmp/lee.jpg

They look very different to me, yet they are both 100% Thai.

http://www.alllooksame.com/

Take the test and tell me how you do. This is just 3 nationalities.

T Pat · 2004-04-10, 12:35 PM

I got 11 right

SirMoby · 2004-04-10, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawAlex
Cleo, it gets worse when you come to see that there are at least 3 chinese types - mainland, honk kong, and singapour.

drop me an email, I have a good sample page for you if you need it. About 25 models all identified.

Alex

I would love to check out such a sample page if you're willing to offer it

Cleo · 2004-04-10, 05:30 PM

Yeah I think many of us could use a visual guild of how to tell one Asian group from another.

I managed to insult the Vietnamese man fixing my TV a few months ago without meaning to. He was here realigning the video on my big screen TV and it was pretty time consuming so we started talking and he mentioned that he learned to fix TVs back in Vietnam so I asked him if he was from the north or south. Seemed like a fair question to me, but he was like I'm from the south can't you tell. Well no actually, in fact I didn't even know he was Vietnamese until he told me. Turned out that what I thought was a community of Korean is a community of Vietnamese.

Like I said earlier I learned when I was young just to say Asian so as to be safe, but now I find myself marketing naked pics of Asians.

Actually after reading through this thread I think I'm giving up trying and just sticking with saying Asian.

security_man · 2004-04-10, 05:51 PM

LOL i have nothing to add, i missread the title of this thread as "help i am ethically challenged"

very intersting discussion tho

Alphawolf · 2004-04-10, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
Actually after reading through this thread I think I'm giving up trying and just sticking with saying Asian.

hehe.

Yeah. Asian works all the time and offends few.

Cleo · 2004-04-10, 06:39 PM

I wonder what kind of submits these TGPs that have sub niches for Asian get?

I do have a sudden craving for Thai food, one of my favorite foods for dinning out. Actually I like the Thai food that has peanuts used in cooking. I found out that there is another part of Thailand that doesn't use peanuts that I don't care for as much. In fact I was told that Thai food that uses peanuts is not real Thai food. All I know is there is a lot of Thai restaurants where I live and they are owned by people from Thailand… errr I mean Asia.

Alphawolf · 2004-04-10, 07:21 PM

I'm not a fan of most Thai food.

I'm a spice pussy. Can't take my spices like a real man.

I barely tolerated a meal once sweatin' and taking it very seriously- drinking a huge swig of water after every bite.

After I was finished I learned the chef used a chilli sause packaged for Thai KIDS. He showed me the packet...it was like for a baby.

2004-04-09, 08:42 PM	#1
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Help I'm ethnically challenged Some months ago I ended up with some Asian content so I started doing what anybody in this business does and started promoting Asian porn. I was surprised that it converts pretty decent so I've been doing more Asian stuff. Problem is I see categories of for Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc., but I can't tell the difference what is what when I look at the content so I'm stuck just picking the safe choice of Asian. Actually I had the same problem when I lived in San Francisco and learned just to stick with using Asian so as not to upset or insult anyone. Anyway how do others handle picking the correct sub category? __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-04-09, 09:01 PM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I haven't made too many Asian sites/galleries, but each time I did the places I submitted to had the generic "Asian" category. My guess from looking at a few Asian paysites is that a safe bet would be Japanese. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-04-09, 09:14 PM	#3
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	When I lived in San Francisco I had a lot of Asian friends and learned real fast that referring to someone who was Chinese as Japanese or the other way around was like real insulting to them. I do know that other Asians can tell the difference when looking at the models. Actually I have no idea who has been buying these memberships but I would guess it is white men with an Asian fetish and not other Asians so it wouldn't make any difference, but still… Maybe I should just go back to doing tranny porn at least that was easier. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-04-09, 11:27 PM	#4
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	No. There's no definitive way to tell. Not even for other Asians. They may be able to tell from body language, etc...but not from pictures. There's also some difference in Northern/Southern Asian countries as far as general looks...lighter/darker skin. But it would be like a person said they could tell the difference between girls from Germany, Denmark and Sweden. There is a split on usenet for girls from the Philippines and India....that's about it. I'm an Asianphile, btw. http://education.yahoo.com/reference...ap/big/17.html There is just no mystical exact difference between a Japanese girl and a Chinese girl. Neither would admit it, but that's just the way it goes. Oh, and yeah I think there are some 'white guys' though small in number can never get enough Asian content. Due to history various Asian people will not like other asian people. ya know- wars and stuff. My fiancee' says that many Thai's do not recognize her as a Thai, but some other Asian country. But she is indeed 100% Thai. <shrug> Koreans are discriminated against in Japan if not outright, then in more subtle ways. Hmm. Funny story as an aside: In Japan I was in some club and it has a membership newsletter that is mailed out with everyone's contact info. I get a call on my cell from a girl who just liked my name. <shrug> We met at a cafe near my place. I brought some travel photos as an ice breaker and we spoke about travelling. I told her the only place I had no desire to go to was Korea. Well, ya guessed it- she was Korean. Ooops. __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today!

2004-04-10, 12:08 AM	#6
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	Surfn, So if there was a line up of models with no ethnic dress or clues to speak of...just naked models in a line-up you'd be able to tell Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Laotian, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai, Singaporian (?), and Malaysian apart? __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today!

2004-04-09, 11:35 PM	#5
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	Having lived in the far east and Hawaii it's pretty easy for me to tell the difference between what are commonly called "Asians" here.

2004-04-10, 02:40 AM	#8
venturi No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An Oasis atop a High Desert Mesa Posts: 282	I have to agree with Surfin on this. I'm pretty much as whitebread Scotish/American as they come but there are as many different nuances to each Asian and South Pacific brand of people as their are southern dialects in the US. I lived in Japan (ok, it was Okinawa - Disney for the Japanese) for a year and was amazed at how diverse the people are there. Okinawa is NOT a Japanese island at it's root. It's Polonesian (sp?). Yes, for many hundreds of years the Japanese and Chinese invaded this 68mile long island and tortured and killed the inhabitants but the true Okinawans are not of "Asian" decent - they are closer to being the brothers and sisters of the Phillipinos. Now, Korean vs Vietnamese vs Japanese vs Chinese vs Thai vs Whatever.... There is a stricking physical difference between these people and their cultures. Can I pinpoint each one all the time? No, but I do see the differences. The eyes, the cheeks, the mouth, the nose - there are distinct nuances that differentiate each and every one of us. Anyone that lumps people into a given stereotype just isn't looking. And that's my two cents. __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2004-04-10, 02:43 AM	#9
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Cleo, it gets worse when you come to see that there are at least 3 chinese types - mainland, honk kong, and singapour. drop me an email, I have a good sample page for you if you need it. About 25 models all identified. Alex

2004-04-10, 03:01 AM	#10
venturi No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An Oasis atop a High Desert Mesa Posts: 282	Good point RA! I didn't even consider the various dialects (is that the right term?) of the chinese people. Oh my, we're on the road to a full tutorial ain't we?! __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2004-04-10, 06:20 AM	#11
finnbear You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 534	I can tell when models are japanese. They are those who are tied up or has Donald Duck suit. Seriously, it's hard to tell from picture, but in real life I think I can tell if woman is Thai. We have spent there 6 weeks, and I never forget the way they speak. Must be because they were speaking all the time...no silence moment in Thailand. __________________ My free porn sites

2004-04-10, 07:26 AM	#12
Pornopat And Lord, we are especially thankful for nuclear power, the cleanest, safest energy source there is. Except for solar, which is just a pipe dream Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 226	I have to agree with Surfn. We tend to look for western feautures though. We tend to recognice people and cluster them by things as haircolor, eyecolor, lenght, bodycolor. When you look for this features you see only resemblences or very small differences. So you have to look for other features like cheekbones, bodybuild,position of the eyes, teeth, noseconfiguration. I can not tell them all apart cause there are many countries there but I think I have a good shot at telling if a girl is a Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian or Korean... Browse through the catagories and you will spot things when looking for other bodyfeatures... __________________ Porn Romance Tit Perfection Fantastic Trannies 100% exlusive from Gentle Cash

2004-04-10, 07:55 AM	#13
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I can understand why they'd be upset - if someone called me a Canadian I'd probably beat the shit out of them __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-04-10, 12:26 PM	#18
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	Hmm. I'm skeptical of all you's. What I was stating is that I've seen enough variation within the same country that it would be tough to tell which country they are from. You folks would be able to peg my wife to be as 100% Thai straight away: http://www.silkyerotica.com/tmp/nok.jpg ? Here's my friends wife who is also 100% Thai: http://www.silkyerotica.com/tmp/lee.jpg They look very different to me, yet they are both 100% Thai. http://www.alllooksame.com/ Take the test and tell me how you do. This is just 3 nationalities. __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today!

2004-04-10, 12:35 PM	#19
T Pat You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Paridise Posts: 3,244	I got 11 right __________________ How To Keep An Asshole In Suspense I'll Tell You Later

2004-04-10, 05:30 PM	#21
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Yeah I think many of us could use a visual guild of how to tell one Asian group from another. I managed to insult the Vietnamese man fixing my TV a few months ago without meaning to. He was here realigning the video on my big screen TV and it was pretty time consuming so we started talking and he mentioned that he learned to fix TVs back in Vietnam so I asked him if he was from the north or south. Seemed like a fair question to me, but he was like I'm from the south can't you tell. Well no actually, in fact I didn't even know he was Vietnamese until he told me. Turned out that what I thought was a community of Korean is a community of Vietnamese. Like I said earlier I learned when I was young just to say Asian so as to be safe, but now I find myself marketing naked pics of Asians. Actually after reading through this thread I think I'm giving up trying and just sticking with saying Asian. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-04-10, 05:51 PM	#22
security_man Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 260	LOL i have nothing to add, i missread the title of this thread as "help i am ethically challenged" very intersting discussion tho __________________ <a href="http://www.linkalotapuss.com/home.php" target="_blank"><font face="Trebuchet MS">Linkalotapuss.com</a> - Submit your sites</font>

2004-04-10, 06:39 PM	#24
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I wonder what kind of submits these TGPs that have sub niches for Asian get? I do have a sudden craving for Thai food, one of my favorite foods for dinning out. Actually I like the Thai food that has peanuts used in cooking. I found out that there is another part of Thailand that doesn't use peanuts that I don't care for as much. In fact I was told that Thai food that uses peanuts is not real Thai food. All I know is there is a lot of Thai restaurants where I live and they are owned by people from Thailand… errr I mean Asia. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-04-10, 07:21 PM	#25
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	I'm not a fan of most Thai food. I'm a spice pussy. Can't take my spices like a real man. I barely tolerated a meal once sweatin' and taking it very seriously- drinking a huge swig of water after every bite. After I was finished I learned the chef used a chilli sause packaged for Thai KIDS. He showed me the packet...it was like for a baby. __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today!