Signing up for Internext

[Trev]

Originally Posted by Torn

I got nailed by that '77/'78 blizzard as well....

I remember standing on the snow bank on the side of the road looking down on the school bus top...

I made some good money on that storm. A friend and I had access to a rubber wheeled frontend loader/grader tractor. We headed up to where the doctors, lawyers, indian chiefs lived and did a bunch of those long and/or cirular drives (and we only damaged one garage lol )

[Aly]

Righto...

The first point I need to make here, because I believe it's the most crucial, is that while Internext is owned by AVN it is not run by AVN Online employees.
The trade show department here at the office only runs trade shows. They run Internext, AEE (the AVN show), EroticaLA and an upcoming sex toy business convention. You're right, Jim, when you say they don't belong in the online business; they aren't in the online business, they're in the trade show business...
That's part of a large issue really. The people who run Internext don't have as deep a knowledge of the adult industry as you and I do. But it's not really their jobs to.
I have to face that - by perception, Internext is AVN, and AVN is Internext (and perception is everything), so when Internext demonstrates a limited understanding of the online adult marketplace, it reflects poorly on AVN. And vice versa... when AVN fucks something up (say, with AVNAds for example) it reflects badly on Internext.
It's tricky.


Moving right along...

Demographic Information:

Demographic information is requested of all attendees in order to give sponsors a picture of who attends the event, and also to assure that the event (seminars etc) is tailored to the appropriate demographic. If, for example, 85% of respondents were content producers, then the events would cater to that market segment more, and market itself more aggressively to others. So, this information is requested at registration.


Location:

Yes Alex, thanks, the Diplomat Hotel in Florida is cheaper for all when we have that many webmasters in one location. That's the hard part with vegas, it's far more expensive and very hard to get everyone in one place. Here's an interesting fact, even with the move to the Mandalay Bay this year, the percentage of attendees actually staying at the event hotel remained almost exactly the same as last year. It didn't feel like it though...

After each show, all attendees with a legitimate email address on their registration receive a follow-up survey. PLEASE fill out this survey and suggest alternate locations for the event if you'd like, I've confirmed that the question will be included on the post summer internext survey.


Selling Lists:

If you get scanned by a pretty girl at Internext, that 'scanner' gets your contact info... That's the point of that thing. If you don't want them to scan you, feel free to take a Sharpie (not Faye) to your barcode. Who cares?! HOWEVER, Internext (and I just checked this for the millionth time) doesn't sell, rent or anything the registration info or attendee lists. Infact, IMO they're negligently good about it... but that's another story. So, no, 'AVN' is not selling their lists (those idiots!)


Other Shows:

Feel free to start a coalition and start your own show. Good luck with that.
AVN AND Internext have great relationships with the other shows and we all support eachother back and forth... Feel free to start something new and join the family.


Badge Cost:

Alex also covered this perfectly on GFY. The badge cost is $250 with early registration. That's a lot more than it was last year. Last year, the trade show itself was the revenue source... that's why people had to exhibit in order to throw 'official' events, otherwise, they would have been 'leeching' off the event. But lots of people wanted to be involved and have events and so on without having a booth, so that requirement was removed. That does, however, amount to a serious loss in revenue (including that necessary to cover basic costs) for the show. So, to even this all out, attendance in any way now has a flat fee. That fee covers entry to all events, including exhibits and seminars and so on. And, yes, the nice folks at Internext are also having wireless access added to the entire event.


To Go or Not to Go to The Show:

Last year, 73% of respondents said they met or exceeded their business objectives at the show. That's not bad considering the relaxed environment and number of open bars... I've always found it to be worthwhile and fun myself, but feel free to skip it... unless you're name's GreenGuy... in which case, please don't!

CHOP SMITH: "More than one trip to the floor was as useless as a tit on a bull. The contacts at the hosipality suites and private parties were priceless." Well, $250 to access the hotel is probably a GOOD deal then! LOL..


Useless Warrior:

I haven't 'munched dick' in a long time... sorry our plans don't mesh...


Don't hesitate to contact me anytime... or keep posting!

[Torn Rose]

"After each show, all attendees with a legitimate email address on their registration receive a follow-up survey. PLEASE fill out this survey and suggest alternate locations for the event if you'd like, I've confirmed that the question will be included on the post summer internext survey."

I think I have to disagree with this, I have been to 6 shows and never once received anything like this, and yes, my contact information was 100% legit. I have heard a few mention it, but I have heard more asking if I got one, since they heard so and so got one and they didn’t get one.

As for not selling information, I will not argue, but I never once used a phone # I had for anything business related, until I registered with Internext (3 or 4 years ago) and by my own fault used that number and not a week after Internext I had phone calls from content producers who called me by my real name, which I only used at Internext registration and again, no one else had that phone number or information on my name.

I realize you have not been at AVN for very long, but I disagree with what I have seen and what you are told.

[Aly]

Originally Posted by Torn

"After each show, all attendees with a legitimate email address on their registration receive a follow-up survey. PLEASE fill out this survey and suggest alternate locations for the event if you'd like, I've confirmed that the question will be included on the post summer internext survey."

I think I have to disagree with this, I have been to 6 shows and never once received anything like this, and yes, my contact information was 100% legit. I have heard a few mention it, but I have heard more asking if I got one, since they heard so and so got one and they didn’t get one.

As for not selling information, I will not argue, but I never once used a phone # I had for anything business related, until I registered with Internext (3 or 4 years ago) and by my own fault used that number and not a week after Internext I had phone calls from content producers who called me by my real name, which I only used at Internext registration and again, no one else had that phone number or information on my name.

I realize you have not been at AVN for very long, but I disagree with what I have seen and what you are told.

Thanks for letting me know.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Aly

The people who run Internext don't have as deep a knowledge of the adult industry as you and I do. But it's not really their jobs to.

Bullshit. How are they supposed to plan a tradeshow for the adult online community if they don't have the slightest concept ofwho we are and what we do? But that's fine, just let them go on fucking it up year after year. What the hell? Did Internext hire through the same agency as GW did for the planning of the war in Iraq?

Originally Posted by Aly

Demographic information is requested of all attendees in order to give sponsors a picture of who attends the event, and also to assure that the event (seminars etc) is tailored to the appropriate demographic.

And after all of these years...it's still a mess.

Originally Posted by Aly

Other Shows:

Feel free to start a coalition and start your own show. Good luck with that.

Aly, it's the not caring that hurts.

Originally Posted by Aly

Badge Cost:

The badge cost is $250 with early registration.

It's too fucking much.

Originally Posted by Aly

To Go or Not to Go to The Show:

Last year, 73% of respondents said they met or exceeded their business objectives at the show.

That's because everyone's expectations are so god damned low after years of Internext fucking up the show.

Originally Posted by Aly

CHOP SMITH: "More than one trip to the floor was as useless as a tit on a bull. The contacts at the hosipality suites and private parties were priceless." Well, $250 to access the hotel is probably a GOOD deal then!.

Don't quit your day job. You'd suck at car sales.

Originally Posted by Aly

Useless Warrior:

I haven't 'munched dick' in a long time... sorry our plans don't mesh...

That's a shame. At least then I could have come up with a reason to like you.

Now why don't you go back to work on new ways for both Internext and Adbrite to screw the common webmaster while telling us that it's not your job to know how these things work.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Aly

Badge Cost:

Alex also covered this perfectly on GFY. The badge cost is $250 with early registration. That's a lot more than it was last year. Last year, the trade show itself was the revenue source... that's why people had to exhibit in order to throw 'official' events, otherwise, they would have been 'leeching' off the event. But lots of people wanted to be involved and have events and so on without having a booth, so that requirement was removed. That does, however, amount to a serious loss in revenue (including that necessary to cover basic costs) for the show. So, to even this all out, attendance in any way now has a flat fee. That fee covers entry to all events, including exhibits and seminars and so on. And, yes, the nice folks at Internext are also having wireless access added to the entire event.

This part is just really irking me to no end. What does Joe Blow webmaster get for the increased price? And don't say the seminars, because, for me anyway, I probably wouldn't have gone to them if they were free LAST year.